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John Savage, II

Nicknames: "Sir Knight", "Knighted by King Henry V at the Battle of Agincourt"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Clifton, Runcorn, Cheshire, England
Death: Died in Clifton, Otley, West Riding, Yorkshire, England
Place of Burial: Cheshire, England, UK
Immediate Family:

Son of Sir John Savage, of Stainesby and Margaret Danyers
Husband of Ellen Savage and Maud (Matilda) Swinnerton
Father of William Arnold Savage; George Savage; Sir John Savage III, of Clifton; Roger Savage; Margaret Savage and 11 others
Brother of Isabella Covert; Elizabeth Savage; Mary Savage; Blanche Savage; Petronel Savage and 11 others
Half brother of Sir Piers Legh II, of Lyme Hall; John Leigh, of Ridge; Piers Legh and Matilda Legh

Occupation: Knight, Esquire to Henry. Prince of Wales, Chaplain of Middlewich, Knight by Henry V
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About John Savage, II

• Background Information. 718 Sir John Savage, of Clifton, Knight, was knighted at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415. He married Maude, daughter and heiress of Sir Robert Swynnerton, Knight of Barrow, Cheshire and of Rushton, Comford, and Austenfiled, Staffordshire.

It is possible that this Sir John was the Sir John Savage whose brilliant tilting at the tournament held at Inglevere, near Calais in May and June of 1390, was described in one of the chapters of Froissart's Chronicle (Chapter 13). This took place during a truce between England and France. Three French Knights held a tournament at Inglevers and defended the lists for thirty days against all comers from England and elsewhere. Their names were Sir Boucicaunt the Younger, the Lord Reginald de Roye and the Lord de Saimpè "On the twenty-first of May, as it had been proclaimed the three Knights were properly armed, and the horses ready saddled, according to the laws of the tournament . . . The King of France," Froissart tells us, "was present at these jousts. Being young and desirous of witnessing extraordinary sights, he would have been much vexed if he had not seen the tournaments. He was therefore present at the early part and latter end of them, attended by the Lord de Garenciers; but both so disguiesed that nobody knew of it, and they returned every evening to Merquise. . . . The ensuring day, Wednesday, was as fine as the foregoing, and the English who had crossed the sea to take part in or view the tournament, mounted their horses at the same hour as on the preceding day, and rode to the place appointed for the lists, the delight of the French, who were rejoiced to see them. It was not long after their arrival that an English Squire, a good tilter, called John Savage, a squire of honor, and of the body to the Earl of Huntingdon, sent to touch the shield of Sir Reginald de Roye; the Knight answered, he was ready and willing to satify him. When he had mounted his horse, and had his helmet buckled and lance given to him, they set off at full gallop, and gave such blows on the targets that, had the spears not broken, one of both must have fallen to the ground. The course was handson and dangerous, but the Knights received no hurt, though the points of the lances passed trought the targets and slipped off their side armour. The spears were broken almost a foot from the shaft, the points remaining in the in the shields, and they gallantly bore the shafts before them as they finished their career. The spectators thought they must have been seriously wounded, and the French and English hastened each to his campanion, whom, to their joy, they found unhurt. They were told that they had done enough for the day, but John Savage was not satisfied, he said 'He had not crossed the seas for only one tilt of the lance.' this was reported to Sir Reginald, who replied, 'He is in the right, and it is but just that he should be gratified either by me or one of my campanions.' When they had rested themselves awhile and received new lances, they began their second course, each aiming well at the other; but they failed from the swerving of their horses, to their great vexation, and retired to their posts. Their lances, which they had accidentally dropped, were given to them, and they set off in their third course. This time they hit on the visors of their helments, and by the force and crossing of the lances, both were unhelmed as they passed. The tilt was much applouded for it correctness and bigour. When returned to their posts, the English told John Savage that he had very honourably performed, and that it was now time for him to make way for others to tilt as well as himself. He complied with this, and, laying aside his lance and target, dismounted, and rode on a hackney to witness the performance of others."

This John Savage, combined the arms of his father, six lincels, with the arms of his mother, a pale fusillée sa., and for a crest, a unicorn's head, which his mother grated to him afther the death of her fahter in 3 Henry V. Sir John, held the distinguished office of Seneschal of Halton Castle, the royal fortress near his own manor of Clifton. Sir John died in 1450, and was succeeded by his eldest son, also named Sir John Savage, Knight. ~The Ancient and Noble Family of Savage, pg. 17-20

• Children. 713,718,721 Children listed in The Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, pg. 214: Parnel Savage, married Reynold Leigh of Blackbrooke (The Ancient and Noble Family of Savage, places her with the preceeding John Savage, pg. 17, but The Visitation of Cheshire, 1580 also placed Parnell in this generation.) Anne Savage, married to Charles Nowell Beatrix Savage, married to Sir Hamnett Carrington, son and heir of Sir Thomas his brother Blanche Savage, married to Sir Thomas Carrington, no issue (The Ancient and Noble Family of Savage, places her with the preceeding John Savage, pg. 17) John Savage, son and heir, d. 29 Jun 1463, and married Eleanor/Elizabeth Bereton (called Eleanor, daughter of Sir William Brenton in The Visitation of Cheshire in 1580, p. 203) Ellin Savage, m. Peter Warburton William Savage (missing from The Visitation of Cheshire in 1580, p. 203) Arnold Savage, married Elen daughter of Will, son of Sir Ricahrd de la Lee juxtà Becford (missing from The Visitation of Cheshire in 1580, p. 203) George Savage (The Ancient and Noble Family of Savage, places him with the preceeding John Savage, p. 17 & missing from The Visitation of Cheshire in 1580, p. 203) Roger Savage (The Ancient and Noble Family of Savage, places him with the preceeding John Savage, p. 17 and missing from The Visitation of Cheshire in 1580, p. 203)

Ormerod names their children as John, eldest and heir; William; Arnold who married Elen, daughter of William, son of Sir Richard de la Lee; George; Margaret, married to John Dutton, second son of Piers Dutton of Dutton, 6 Henry V, afterweards heir to Sir Piers Dutton his fahter; and Maude married to Sir Thomas Booth of Barton in Lancashire.

Ormerod also gives this John Savage a second wife, Elena, widow of James de Haryngton, who he was married to by 1428. ~Ormerod's History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, vol. I, p. 712

John married Margaret de Swynnerton, daughter of Sir Robert de Swynnerton Knight and Elizabeth Beke 160,599.,713 (Margaret de Swynnerton was born about 1370 in England and died before 1428 in Clifton, Staffordshire, England 721.)

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  • Sir John Savage, Bailiff of the Forest of Macclesfield, Constable of Halton Castle, Chamberlain of Middlewich1,2,3
  • M, #10816, b. circa 1378, d. 1 August 1450
  • Father John Savage4,2,3 d. 1386
  • Mother Margaret Daniell4,2,3 d. 24 Jun 1428
  • Sir John Savage, Bailiff of the Forest of Macclesfield, Constable of Halton Castle, Chamberlain of Middlewich was born circa 1378 at of Clifton, Cheshire, England; Age 50 in 1428.4,2 He married Maud Swynnerton, daughter of Sir Robert de Swynnerton, 4th Lord Swinnerton and Elizabeth de Beke, before 1401; They had 5 sons (Sir John; William; Arnold; George; & Rogers) and 3 daughters (Margaret, wife of John Dutton, Esq; Maud, wife of Sir Thomas Booth; & Mary, wife of Sir William Stanley).4,2,3 Sir John Savage, Bailiff of the Forest of Macclesfield, Constable of Halton Castle, Chamberlain of Middlewich married Ellen Urswick, daughter of Sir Robert Urswick and Ellen Radcliffe, between 1424 and 1427; No issue.4,2,3 Sir John Savage, Bailiff of the Forest of Macclesfield, Constable of Halton Castle, Chamberlain of Middlewich died on 1 August 1450.4,2,3
  • Family 1 Maud Swynnerton b. c 1370, d. bt 8 Jun 1414 - 1424
  • Children
    • William Savage
    • George Savage
    • Roger Savage
    • Maud Savage4
    • Isabella Savage
    • Mary Savage+5,4,6,2,7,3 b. c 1400
    • Sir John Savage, Bailiff of the Forest of Macclesfield, Chamberlain of Middlewich+4,2,3 b. bt 1401 - 1410, d. 29 Jun 1463
    • Margaret Savage+4 b. c 1403, d. a 1450
    • Arnold Savage b. 1406
  • Family 2 Ellen Urswick b. c 1376, d. a 1 Sep 1432
  • Citations
  • 1.[S2722] Unknown author, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, by George Ormerod, 1819, p. 526; Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles by Paget, Vol. II, p. 419; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 41.
  • 2.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 490.
  • 3.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 553.
  • 4.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 638.
  • 5.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 290.
  • 6.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 118.
  • 7.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 500.
  • From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p360.htm#i10817

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  • John Savage1
  • M, #211555, b. 1370, d. 1 August 1450
  • Last Edited=18 Nov 2006
  • John Savage was born in 1370 at Clifton, Cheshire, England.1 He was the son of John Savage and Margaret Danyers.1 He died on 1 August 1450 at Clifton, Cheshire, England.1
  • Child of John Savage and Maud Swynnerton
    • 1.Ellen Savage+1
  • Citations
  • 1.[S1916] Tim Boyle, "re: Boyle Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 16 September 2006. Hereinafter cited as "re: Boyle Family."
  • From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p21156.htm#i211555

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  • John SAVAGE (Sir)
  • Born: ABT 1370
  • Died: 1 Aug 1450
  • Father: John SAVAGE
  • Mother: Margaret DANYERS
  • Married: Maud De SWYNNERTON (dau. of Sir Robert Swinnerton) ABT 1400
  • Children:
    • 1. John SAVAGE (Sir)
    • 2. Margaret SAVAGE
    • 3. Mary SAVAGE
    • 4. William SAVAGE
    • 5. Arnold SAVAGE
    • 6. George SAVAGE
    • 7. Roger SAVAGE
    • 8. Maud SAVAGE
  • From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/SAVAGE.htm#John SAVAGE (Sir)3

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He was Knighted by King Henry V during the Battle of Agincourt in 1415.....Part of the Hundred Years War. The armies involved were those of the English King Henry V and Charles VI of France. The battle was also immortalised by William Shakespeare as the centrepiece of his play Henry V.

In 1415 King Henry V sailed to France were the Battle of Agincourt was fought. The battle was fought in a newly plowed field where it had been raining for several days. Mud was ankle deep, sometimes up the knees and sometimes up to the waist. Horses and men kept the ground stirred up. Many of the deaths were from drowning – falling off your horse in full armor. The English had the advantage here because they were bare footed, bare legged and so much more mobile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Agincourt

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ID: I116166

Name: John [II @ >] de Savage

Sex: M

Birth: 1375 in Clifton, Cheshire, England

Death: 1 AUG 1450 in Bunsingstall, Salop, England

Note: Title: Sir

Father: John [I >] de Savage b: ABT 1343 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England

Mother: Margaret [@ >] de Danyers b: 1347 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England

Marriage 1 Maud (Matilda) [@ <>] de Swynnerton b: 1384 in Swynnerton, Staffordshire, England

Married: 1409

Children

Alice [@ <] de Savage b: 1398 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
Sir John [III @] de Savage b: 1403 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
Mary [@ >] Savage b: ABT 1407 in Clifton, Runcorn, Chester, England
Margaret [@] Savage b: ABT 1409 in Clifton, Cheshire, England

Marriage 2 Ellen [@] Urswyk b: ABT 1375 in Erswick, Lancashire, England

Married: ABT 1428

Children

Ellen [@] de Savage b: ABT 1428 in Arley of Werberton, Cheshire, England

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Notes from http://home.clara.net/craigthornber/cheshire/htmlfiles/maccstmichaels.html John Savage, of Clifton, knight, 6 Hen V. had the mannor of Barrow from his wife Maude. They were married prior to 1409. After the death of Maude, Sir John married Elena, widow of James Haryngton, in 1428. This Sir John Savage was referred to as a knight in 4 Hen V. and was probably knighted at Agincourt in 3 Hen V. He died 1 August, 28 Hen VI (1449)

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Sir John Savage II, of Clifton's Timeline

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1370
Clifton, Runcorn, Cheshire, England
1393
1393
Age 23
Clifton, Cheshire, England
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Age 24
Runcorn, Halton, UK
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Clifton, Cheshire, England
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1396
Age 26
Clifton, Cheshire, , England
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Clidton, Cheshire, England
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Age 32
Clifton, Cheshire, , England
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Age 33
Clifton, Cheshire, England
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Age 34
Clifton, Cheshire, England, United Kingdom
1404
Age 34
Runcorn, Cheshire, , England