John Seton, 2nd Lord Seton (c.1370 - 1434)

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Nicknames: "Sir John Seton of Seton"
Birthplace: Seton, East Lothian, Scotland
Death: Died in Seton, East Lothian, Scotland
Managed by: Joanna Helen Roper
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About John Seton, 2nd Lord Seton

Source=Sir John Seton, 2nd Lord Seton

He was intended by his father to be wedded to the Heiress of Gordon, but secretly married Janet Dunbar, daughter to the Earl of March, much to his father’s displeasure, but which powerful alliance brought more influence into the Seton Household and which in the end, earned Sir John a place at the Royal table. By his wife, Janet, he had one son who predeceased him, and three daughters. Lord Seton was appointed Master of the Household by King James I., and was sent on a mission to France. He is described as a good fighter and a great hater of the English – Miles acerrimus et Anglis eimper infectus – and was taken prisoner at the battle of Homildon Hill, in 1402. He had several safe conducts to England between 1409 and 1421, and died about 1441, when he was buried in his mother’s chantry at Seton Church. His daughters were disposed of as follows: Christian married Norman Leslie of Rothes, by papal dispensation from the fourth degree of consanguinity, obtained in December, 1415; Janet married Sir Robert Keith, son of the Earl Marischal; Marian married Sir William Baillie of Laminton, in Lanarkshire.


Sir John’s son, William, Master of Seton, first appears in a charter which he witnessed in 1423, where he is described as “William Seton, son and heir of John, Lord Seton.” The Master of Seton was early on knighted, and later accompanied the Scotch Auxilliaries to the assistance of the French, and after sharing in the victory of Bauge was slain at the bloody battle of Verneuil, August 17, 1424. By his wife, whose name is not recorded, William, Master of Seton, left a son George, who succeeded his grandfather John and became 3rd Lord Seton, and two daughters; Catherine, who married Alan Stuart of Darnley, and was mother of the first Earl of Lennox; and Janet, who married John, second Lord Halyburton.


Sir John Seton’s brother, Alexander Seton duly then, married the Heiress of Gordon and became 1st Lord Gordon, and both played a significant part in the affairs of the Royal House of Stuart and were favorites of King James I of Scotland and were frequents in his court.


Sir John Seton of Seton, as the eldest son, milis acorrimus, et anglis simper infestus, had a charter from King Robert III, of the lands of Barnes and Wintoun, and was taken at the Battle of Hamilton, 1402, John de Seton, miles, had a safe conduct to come into England as a hostage for the Earl of Douglas, 21 Septe,ber 1405, again 30 January and 3rd November 1406. Among the hostages nominated for the release of King James I by the treaty of 4th December 1423, was Johannes, Dominus de Setoun, miles, vel filius ejus et haeres, his annual revenue being estimated at 600 marks. Johannes Seton, Dominus de Seton, vel hacres suus, had a safe conduct to Durham, to meet the King 13th December, 1423, and Johannes Dominus de Seton was one of the guarantees of the treaty for his Majesty’s release, 28 March 1424, it is said that he was created a Lord of Parliament the same year, and that he died in 1441; but no authority is given. He married Lady Janet Dunbar, daughter of George, tenth Earl of Dunbar and March , and by her had a son, Sir William; - and two daughters-


Sir John Seton of Seton1 M, #29826, d. circa 1434

Sir John Seton of Seton|d. c 1434|p2983.htm#i29826|Sir William de Seton|d. c Mar 1409/10|p2983.htm#i29829|Janet Fleming||p2983.htm#i29830|Alan de Wyntoun||p26263.htm#i262622|Margaret de Seton||p26256.htm#i262558|Sir David Fleming||p2984.htm#i29831||||

Last Edited=29 Apr 2008

    Sir John Seton of Seton was the son of Sir William de Seton and Janet Fleming.2 He married Katherine Sinclair, daughter of Sir William Sinclair of Herdmanston.2 He died circa 1434.2
    On 24 March 1410/11 he had a charter of confirmation of the territorial Baronies of Seton and Tranent, and the lands of Winchburgh.2 In 1424 he was a hostage for King James I.2

Child of Sir John Seton of Seton

Marian Seton+ 1

Children of Sir John Seton of Seton and Katherine Sinclair

Sir William Seton of Seton+ d. 17 Aug 14242

Christian Seton+ 2

Citations

[S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 599. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.

[S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 1, page 1285.

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Sir John Seton; had a charter of confirmation of the territorial Barony of Seton and Tranent and the lands of Winchburgh 24 March 1410/1; hostage for James I 1424. [Burke's Peerage] -------------------- SOURCE= http://etree10.archive.org/stream/inverurieearldog00davi/inverurieearldog00davi_djvu.txt SETON. Sir William Seton of that Ilk, of Winton, and Tranent in East Lothian, and of Winchburgh, West Lothian, had by his wife, Katherine, daughter of Sir William Sinclair of Herdmanstoun, two sons. The elder,1.) Sir John Seton of that Ilk, was ancestor of the Earls of Winton, attainted 2.)Alexander Seton, who became Gordon, by marrying, in 1408, Elizabeth the heiress of Adam de Gordon deceased, was himself the second son of Sir William Seton of Seton, and his own second son, William Seton, was the common ancestor of the Garioch Setons already mentioned.

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Sir John Seton, 2nd Lord Seton's Timeline

1370
1370
Seton, East Lothian, Scotland
1393
1393
Age 23
Seton, East Lothian, Scotland, (Present UK)
1395
1395
Age 25
Whitehill, Perthshire, Scotland
1400
1400
Age 30
Barony of Seton (Present East Lothian), Scotland
1403
1403
Age 33
Seton, East Lothian, Scotland
1434
1434
Age 64
Seton, East Lothian, Scotland
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