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Thomas I Rose, I

Birthdate:
Birthplace: New London, CT, USA
Death: Died in New London, CT, USA
Immediate Family:

Son of Thomas Rose and Anne Rose
Husband of Joanna Charity Rose and Joanna Charity Rose
Father of Thomas Rose, II
Brother of Joseph Rose, Sr.

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About Thomas Rose

Thomas Rose of Norwich, Conn

http://ntgen.tripod.com/bw/rose_index.html#thomas

Copyright 1998 Norris Taylor

The Immigrant

Widow Joanna Rose

There is little known about the Widow Rose. There is no evidence to show she was Eames, or Rathbone, or Ransford; all names speculated for her maiden name. Her origins and maiden name are unknown. The first name of her husband is also unknown, although since the name Thomas was repeated down into future generations, it might be Thomas. Neither is there any known relationship with Daniel Rose of Wethersfield, Conn or Robert Rose of Mass, or the Roses of Long Island. It is possible she is an unrecorded daughter of another immigrant and married in America.

Thomas Rose

• Torrey estimates 1653,... Sterry Genealogy 1655.

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◦ Note: The Sterry Genealogy says he was born abt 1655 and Hannah abt 1648. This makes them both over ninety when they died, Hannah almost 100. I guess I've seen too many folks in the 1600's claim to live past 90. I suggest those dates are the earliest, 1660 the latest,  parameters of a range of  birthdates for them.


Immigration:  Unknown. 
Spouse:  Hannah Allyn, daughter of immigrant and neighbor, Robert Allyn of New London and Norwich, Conn. Probably by 1680, Torrey gives "Sep 16, 1680?". I don't know the source for that date. Torrey shows first child born 1681? Earliest grandkids born probably about 1705, which easily fits a 1680 marriage date.


The proof for this relationship is reported to be in Robert Allyn's will or estate papers, of September 20, 1683, where he referred to her as Hannah Rose, but I have not yet seen a transcription or copy of that will. She survived Thomas and died three years later on January 05, 1746. History of New London, Connecticut, by Frances Manwaring Caulkins, 1895 
 

• Occupation:  Unknown, probably a farmer, possibly with livestock. He seems to have had a fairly large estate for the times, which raises the question of whether he dabbled in real estate. Death:  April 19, 1744 from the Sterry Genealogy, reported by others to be November 20, 1743, New London Co, Conn, but I have not find that date or event in the Barbour Collection. These dates may be coming from dates in his estate packet. 
Estate/Will:  Per  Caulkins, History of Norwich, "he died in 1743, leaving an estate valued at 2,498 pounds." 
 

◦ See the Will of Thomas Rose

• Children:  He named eight daughters (two deceased, apparently both with heirs) and two sons (one deceased, with heirs) in his will.

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•   • Thomas Rose was included in list of sketches of "others having original home-lots and all the privileges of first proprietors" in History of Norwich, Connecticut, by Frances Manwaring Caulkins, 1874.

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◦ "Rose. Thomas Rose was an early settler in the southern part of Preston. His name acquired notoriety from the situation of his dwelling house. A large oak tree near the house was a noted boundary mark between Norwich and New London, standing as a stately warder precisely at the southeast corner of Norwich. It was directly upon the line running east from the head of Poquetannock Cove to the bounds of Stonington, and is referred to in several surveys, acts, and patents."

• The History of Norwich goes on to add:

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◦ Pg 261, "(in a description of property being added to New London)... "thence upon a direct line to an oak tree marked and standing near the dwelling house of Thomas ROSE." Pg 354, "Zacharia Maynard, or Mayner, purchased a farm in 1697, near Robert ALLYN and Thomas ROSE, (in Ledyard). His wife was a daughter of Robert Geer."

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Sources and Resources

• History of New London, Connecticut, by Frances Manwaring Caulkins, 1895 History of Norwich, Connecticut, by Frances Manwaring Caulkins, 1874 
The Barbour Collection of Vital Records of Connecticut 
Torrey's "New England Marriages Prior to 1700" 
The Sterry Family, Walter Burges Smith, Call Number: CS71.S8393, Privately Printed. 
Israel. 1973. 
Cited in The Sterry Family 
 

◦ Richard A. Wheeler, History of the Town of Stonington, New London, Conn. 1800, pp. 418-419, 236. Alfred L. Holman, Blackman and Allied Families, Chicago, 1928, pp. 205, 45. 
For Hannah's origins, see MSS. on the Rose and Allyn families by H. Minot Pitman 
genealogist of Bronxville, N.Y. (written for Mrs. William A.M. Burden, Jr.). (The book doesn't say where this manuscript is located. nmt) 
 

• A transcription of his will is found:  History of the Descendants of Peter Spicer compiled by Mrs. Susan Spicer Meech and Miss Susan Billings Meech, 1911. Pages 547-548.

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r. Preston, Conn. (Norwich became Preston in time....no change of location)

Rose Hill

Estate/Will:  Per  Caulkins, History of Norwich, "he died in 1743, leaving an estate valued at 2,498 pounds." 
 r. Norwich,Conn.

Rose Hill

Preston, Conn.

Thomas Rose was one of the grantees of Preston in 1686

Joanna Rose, d. of Thomas Rose of Rose Hill who d. in 1761

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He named 8 dau. and 2 sons in his will. two dau. deceased and one son deceased

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Is the Mary Rose who married Robert Parke a sister of Thomas Rose? ????
 

◦ A Mary Rose married Robert Parke and is shown in the lines of descent of various folks related to Princess Diana, as she was a Parke, by Gary Boyd Roberts. By the ages of her children, she was a contemporary of Thomas.

Savage shows under his entry under "FLEMING, ROBERT, Stonington 1669, had gr. of land 30 Sept, that yr. and d. bef. 1681, leav. wid. Joanna and d. Mary Rose, possib. other ch.". This is apparently the same man Torrey shows as a second husband for the Widow Joanna Rose, and the mentioned daughter would then be a sister of Thomas Rose.... is there additional evidence??

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Subsequent Generations

• See Partridge Major branches from Thomas  will have the surnames: Avery, Bellows, Gates, Partridge, Pelton, Sterry, and Killam/Killum. The Mary Rose who married Robert Parke is probably Thomas' sister, and her descendants will have the name Parke.

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Children and Grandchildren

 

Descendants of  Widow Joanna (_?_) Rose

   1   Joanna 1630 - 
..  +[Thomas?] Rose 1630 - 1674 
 

◦ ........ 2   Thomas Rose 1660 - 1743

◦ ............  +Hannah Allyn 1658 - 1746

These children all named in Thomas Rose's will: 
.................. 3   Joanna Rose 1681 - 1761 
......................  +Edward Avery 1676 - 1759 
.................. 3   Thomas Rose 1683 - 1733 
......................  +Mary Gates 1676 - 1737 
.................. 3   Dorcas Rose 1685 - 
......................  +Nathaniel Bellows 1676 - 1759 
.................. 3   Hannah Rose 1687 - 1724 
......................  +Samuel Sterry 1674 - 1734 
.................. 3   Deborah Rose 1689 - 1770 
......................  +Samuel Partridge 1687 - 1744 
.................. 3   Mary Rose 1691 - 
......................  +Henry Pelton 1694 - 
.................. 3   Joseph Rose 1693 - 1770 
......................  +Sarah Pelton 1693 - 
.................. 3   Damaris Rose 1695 - 
......................  +Gates 1695 - 
.................. 3   Elizabeth Rose 1697 - 
......................  +Killam 1697 - 
.................. 3   Sarah Rose 1699 - 1743 
......................  +John Killam 1692 -


Ages of Mary Rose's children suggest she was a contemporary and therefore a sister of Thomas Rose Jr..

Savage refers to a Mary Rose in a sketch on Robert Fleming: "ROBERT, Stonington 1669, had gr. of land 30 Sept, that yr. and d. bef. 1681, leav. wid. Joanna and d. Mary Rose, and other ch. " 
  
 

◦ ........ 2   Mary Rose 1664 - .....................

◦ ............  +Robert Parke 1651 - 1707 ..... Our Lines

◦ .................. 3   Hezekiah Parke 1695 - 1752 .............

◦ ......................  +Margery Dyke 1693 - 1776 ............Our Lines

◦ .................. 3   Robert Parke 1697 -

◦ ......................  +Elizabeth Benjamin 1697 -


These marriages from Torrey: 
 

◦   *2nd Husband of Joanna:

◦ ..  +Robert Fleming 1630 - 1681

◦   *3rd Husband of Joanna:

◦ ..  +[__?__] Olmstead 1630 -

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Thomas Rose - Will - Preston Connecticut

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The Will of Thomas Rose of Preston, Connecticut

From “History of the Descendants of Peter Spicer”   compiled by Mrs. Susan Spicer Meech and Miss Susan Billings Meech, 1911.     Pages 547-548

  I, Thomas Rose of Preston, ...Conn. at present through the goodness and forbearance of Almighty God being in the 
  enjoyment of a sound mind and understanding tho surrounded with the infirmities of old age being warned by a late 
  weakness of ye uncertainty of human life and remembering that I must not expect to live much longer in this 
  troublesome and uncertain state I do make and ordain this my last will and testament ....

  Imprimis. To my dear and well beloved wife I give and bequeath all the Household goods now in my possession 
  together with 2 cows and a black mare.

  Item. To my beloved Daughters Joanna Avery, Dorcas Bellows, Deborah Patrige, Mary Pelton, Damaris Gates, 
  Elizabeth Killam as also be the heirs of Hannah Sterry and Sarah Killam Deceased I have paid their full and sufficient 
  portion.

  Further more the Heirs of my son Thomas Rose Deceased have had ye whole portion excepting as hereafter 
  expressed.

  Item. To my beloved son Joseph Rose, I give and bequeath all my medow land lying on the North side of Paucatann 
  River or Brook and also all my movable Estate now in the hands of my son-in-law Samuel Patridge as also Four 
  Hundred pounds money which accord to me by ye sale of some my Land together with its Interest the sole on of wc to 
  be to my executor until the Decease of my Beloved wife and yt of the Interest or principal remains to be equally divided 
  among my six Daughters Joanna, Dorkas, Deborah, Mary, Damerias and Elizabeth my just debts and funeral expenses 
  p’d out of the same and I do hereby revoke ... as witnesseth my hand and seal this twentieth day of November 1743.

  THOMAS ROSE

  Ebenezer Punderson 
  Humphrey Avery } Witnesses 
  William Avery

  (Appointed son Joseph Executor) 
  Two witnesses testified May 29, 1744, Wm. & Humphrey Avery. 
  New London Probate Records.

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 My Family

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~steeles/Steele/d138.htm#P8832

Sgt. Thomas ROSE(20478) (20479) was born about 1653 in New London, New London Co., CT. He served in the military in 1675 in CT.(20480) He was elected as Constable in 1700 in Preston, New London Co., CT. (20481) He was elected as Deputy to CT General Assembly between 1720 and 1724 in Preston, New London Co., CT. (20482) He died about Nov 1743 in Preston, New London Co., CT. (20483) He had an estate probated on 20 Nov 1743 in Preston, New London Co., CT.(20484) He served in the King Philip's War.(20485) Parents: Thomas ROSE and Joanna (Mrs. Thomas Rose).

He was married to Hannah ALLYN on 16 Sep 1680 in New London, New London Co., CT. (20486)(20487) (20488) Children were: Joanna ROSE, Hannah ROSE, Dorcas ROSE, Thomas ROSE, Deborah ROSE, Mary ROSE, Damaris ROSE, Elizabeth ROSE, Joseph ROSE, Sarah ROSE.

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Thomas Rose's Timeline

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New London, CT, USA
1652
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Age 26
New London, CT, USA
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September 10, 1666
Age 40
New London, New London, Connecticut, USA
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Age 57
New London, CT, USA