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Thompson Dalzell

Nicknames: ""Humphrey Thompson Jackson""
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Newtownards, County Down, Ireland
Death: Died in Springfield, Canterbury, New Zealand
Place of Burial: Balcairn Cemetery, Leithfield, Canterbury, New Zealand
Immediate Family:

Son of David Dalzell and Mary Dalzell
Husband of Sarah Dalzell and Suzannah Dalzell
Father of David Dalzell; Robert Dalzell; Jane Dalzell; Martin Dalzell; William Dalzell and 11 others
Brother of Thomas Dalzell; Latitia Chambers; Sarah Lindsay; Margaret Montgomery; John Dalzell and 3 others
Half brother of Robert Dalzell; William Dalzell; Jane Dalzell and Alexander Dalzell

Occupation: Potato Farmer
Managed by: Jason Scott Wills
Last Updated:

About Thompson Dalzell

Thompson was a potato farmer in Carrowreagh Townland, Dundonald. When the potato famine hit, he planned to move to America. However the outbreak of the American civil war made him change his plans and he moved to New Zealand. According to family tradition, Thompson, Susanna, their four daughters and three sons, arrived at Lyttelton on the clipper ship “Lancashire Witch” on October 13th 1863. However, their names do not appear on shipping lists examined so far. Later, the family would possibly sail to Northport, now Saltwater Creek, at the mouth of the Ashley River, which was quite a busy port in those early days. On arrival Thompson turned to farming, and at first he and his family probably lived near Balcairn, but later they shifted to a farm on Marshman’s Road, at Mount Grey Downs near Sefton. Thompson appears to have lived most of his remaining days on the Mount Grey Downs farm, and he died at “Springfield”, Amberley, on 10th July 1885, aged 75 years, and was buried at the Balcairn Cemetery. Susanna outlived her husband, and died on 22nd July 1899 at Amberley, and was also buried at Balcairn Cemetery. GRIFFITHS VALUATION 1861: Thompson and John DALZELL (brothers) jointly leased 56 acres of farmland and two houses from Robert GORDON in the parish of Dundonald, townland of Carrowreagh. Note: Mr. GORDON was a principal proprietor of Ballybean and Carrowreagh.

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LETTER FROM THOMPSON DALZELL TO HIS SISTER LETITIA DALZELL AND HUSBAND THOMAS CHAMBERS

  • Thomas Chambers Mss Collection
  • Washington State Historical Society
  • 315 No. Stadium Way
  • Tacoma, WA 98403
  • Dundonald October 18th 1851
  • Dundonald Octr 18th/ 51
  • Carrowreagh

Dear Brother & Sister I am once more addressing you after a long absence. I am happy to hear from you and that you are so well situated in this world. Brother John and I hold a farm here of 47 acres partly divided, however we live as Brothers ought to do yet still I see that our rising little families ought to be better provided for if we could do it. I see it cannot be done here. Suppose I had a small capital to embark for Orogan how would you order me to act. I perceive that you hold a great many acres of land but rent and other Expenses and how it is to be cleared. I expect you will give me the outlines that I may know Brother Thomas recorded your last letter dated 6th July and when I perceived it I could not (??)..tain (??)….sting this is the second letter I have wrote but receiving no answer I was sure you did not receive I am sorry to inform you that our potato crop is gone again this year, it is now 7 years since the the first Blight. No wonder we are bereft of some little I regret very much that our communication is not often as I love to hear from my relatives as I have wrote so often to you and receiving no answers I was ?eyed and disappointed Br Thos is going to write you a long letter shortly He is well & his Mrs they still live in S Ards You wish to know the news for Ballyregan it is a Mr Thompson he lives in Co Monaghan his Brother receives the rent here in Belfast. If this comes to hand I inform you that I expect your answer and let me know if a capital of what I could say I would do any good for a young family they are all young and healthy some able to work and some not yet able, I expect you will give me the full detail and if you would advise me to come out and venture fortune for a young family Your Brothers &sisters are well and send their kind love to you individually and collectively And I remain dear Brother & Sister your ever affectionate Thompson Dalzell --------------------------------------------------------------

  • Correspondence – Dalzell, Thomas
  • Thomas Chambers Mss Collection No.13. T57.
  • Washington State Historical Society
  • 315 No. Stadium Way
  • Tacoma, WA 98403
  • Newtownards March 26 1851
  • Dear Sister I received your letter on the 6. I was glad to hear you were all in good health as we are at present thank God. I have been living in Newton these ten years. Letty McCully by marriage (?) ??? he bought Ballyregan from me for 150 pounds and twenty pounds a year of proffit [sic] rent to me. Margret got married twelve years ago he was the name of Montgomery of Carrick. He did not behave well and she left him awhile. I got them set up in Carrick [Carrickfergus?]. She is nine years dead and the child. John and Thompson are both well and the[y] are both married the second time. Tom's wife [??] has seven children and one to the first wife [farming?] with David Grainger. John has three living to the first wife I think this last woman will have none. He got his leg broke in the beginning of harvest was three years ago it is well as ever. Sully [?] and family is well a daughter married to …. Grainger. Margret is out of their place and about (near as the on time/) They were all well the last time we heard from them and one of her daughters married since they went there. Alexander is dead two years ago. Mary and family is well and doing well. Send word if you know anything of David, (if he bees living?) Ballyregan a cousin of Thompson's he left it to him by the name of Thompson but I think he had no will made we done everything in our power to claim it but all was in vain. I received your last letter you wrote but it was lost and I …......... write for ….... ….. I have three houses in Newtown and three acres of land. Two of them …. pays the rent of all Thomas. Mother and Father they were both dead when I received your first letter there was about two months betwixt their deaths. James was beat (?) out of Greengraves and the first wife is dead. He is got married to a woman below Newtownards that had a farm of land and I think he is doing well. Samuel Moore (?) has your mother's place. Robert Grainger and family is well and the third wife dead. John Guning and family well. Mr Findlay and wife both dead. Hans Sinclair (?) Dead. James Cooper and John both Dead. …. Died in ….... Your aunt (?) Burnside is Dead about two months ago. Mary Dougherty's Edward is Dead about half a year ago she is doing well. Bess is very poorley in health and her daughter is Dead. Lettey and her man …...... Bought old Jamey Ballintine November was a year ago and flitted(?) to it the[y] are threatening to give mine back to me. John Ballantine and family is to America. Only two daughters married in this countrey. Robert Anderson lost his life in falling in the dark in Belfast . William Austin was bea.... (south?) of Carrowreagh and he is making a fortune in Belfast. John Kyle is doing well the old[est?] son Thomas went to Call.... three of his daughters married. Hamilton Mitchell had great trouble in his family the[y] had mostly all the fever and two of them Died the[y] were upwards of twenty years of age. This Countrey is greatley to the Bad. Potatoes this good many years goes to the Bad about August the stalks and the potatoes in the course of three or four days and there is no one can tell the reason for it. They are six pence a stone at present but about setting time they are one shilling per stone. Wheat seven shillings per hundred meal ten shillings. Corn(?) five [shillings] and three pence. Send particular word what sort of land you occupy if it lies level and what you think it will cost you by the acre. John has a great mind to remove to it yet. John Montgomery made two attempts to slit his throat and had near finished himself since Margaret's Death and his Father and Mother sent him to America and he [en]listed and was shot in the Mexico Battle. Send word if your sons knows any thing about an irish that wrought in the mines of the name of Kilpa[trick]. Send word if your sons knows anything about Thos Kyle how he is Doing in the mines. John C........ is Dead. Robert is put out of Unicarvel held a hundred acres at a penny an acre he is living … Newtownards and his sister with him - [Next line indecipherable] .. or otherwise Miss O'Neill is living happy in thi town but widow. Martha was very Bad with [rheumatic pains?] in her legs a length of time she is quite well again and joins in love to Thomas and you and all the family. John's first wife went astray in her mind before she died. When you write Direct to Newtownards East Street No more but remains your affectionate Brother Thomas Dalzell Your last letter came in three months. I took it up to John's and Thompson's the next day and Thompson wrote to you before this was wrote and wish you may receive some of them. Let us remember the one thing needful we are getting up in years.
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Thompson Dalzell's Timeline

1810
1810
Newtownards, County Down, Ireland
1831
May 1, 1831
Age 21
Kilcarn, Newtownards, County Down
1832
September 1832
Age 22
County Down, Northern Ireland
1835
1835
Age 25
County Down, Northern Ireland
1837
1837
Age 27
County Down, Northern Ireland
1839
1839
Age 29
Belfast, UK
1840
October 25, 1840
Age 30
Belfast, Northern Ireland
1841
September 14, 1841
Age 31
September 14, 1841
Age 31
Belfast, County Antrim, Northern Ireland
1844
1844
Age 34