Thorold, Touroude or Þóroldr d'Harcourt de Pontaudemar

• Parents: Torf and his wife
• Spouse: Wevia, Gunnor de Crépon's sister
• Children:
  • 1. Honfroi who married Aubrey
  • 2. Roger
  • 3. (some report a daughter Josceline, but this is a confusion with the daughters of Sainsfrida and Aveline)

LINKS

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#Thorolddiedafter1040

MEDIEVAL LANDS

4. WEWA . She and her three sisters, as well as their husbands, are named by Robert de Torigny[40]. Guillaume de Jumièges names "Gueuve et Aveline" as two sisters of Gunnor, recording that the former married "Turulfe de Pont-Audemer, son of Torf"[41]. The Genealogia Fundatoris of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire records that the (unnamed) sister of ”Gunnora comitissa Normanniæ” married “Turulpho de Ponte-Adomaro”[42].

m THOROLD de Pont-Audemer, son of [TORF & his wife ---] (-after 1040).

THOROLD [Turold] de Pont-Audemer (-murdered after 1040). Guillaume de Jumièges names "Turulfe de Pont-Audemer, son of Torf" when recording his marriage[2348]. "…Turaldus…" are named as present in the charter dated 1035 under which "Willelmus adhuc puerulus…Roberti comitis filius" donated "Turstini villa" to the abbey of Préaux[2349]. He was strangled[2350]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Turold, précepteur du jeune duc [Guillaume II]" was murdered in the early years of the duke's reign[2351].

WEWA, sister of GUNNORA [mistress of Richard I Duke of Normandy]. Guillaume de Jumièges names "Gueuve et Aveline" as two sisters of Gunnor, recording that the former married "Turulfe de Pont-Audemer, son of Torf"[2352]. The Genealogia Fundatoris of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire records that the (unnamed) sister of ”Gunnora comitissa Normanniæ” married “Turulpho de Ponte-Adomaro”[2353].

Thorold & his wife had [two] children:

a) HONFROI de Vieilles (-after [1040], bur Préaux, monastery of Saint-Pierre). He is named as son of Thorold by Orderic Vitalis[2354]. Seigneur de Vieilles et de Pont-Audemer, in Normandy. The Genealogia Fundatoris of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names ”Humfridum de Vetulis” as son of “Turulpho de Ponte-Adomaro” & his wife[2355]. He witnessed charters under Robert I Duke of Normandy. He founded the monasteries of Saint-Pierre before 1035 and Saint-Leger in [1040], both at Préaux, near Pont-Audemer2354. "…Humfridus constructor eiusdem loci cum filiis suis Rogerio, Roberto, Willelmo…" are named as present in the charter dated 1035 under which "Willelmus adhuc puerulus…Roberti comitis filius" donated "Turstini villa" to the abbey of Préaux[2356]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Roger du Ternois" [Tosny] fought "Honfroi de Vaux" during his rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy during the early years of the latter's reign[2357]. He became a monk at the former before he died[2358].

m AUBREY, daughter of ---. Robert of Torigny records that "Hunfridus de Vetulis, pater Rogerii de Bello Monte, et Albereda uxor eius" founded two monasteries, one for men the other for women, in "fundo Pratelli"[2359].

Honfroi & his wife had four children:

i) ROGER de Vieilles (-29 Nov 1094, bur Préaux, monastery of Saint-Pierre). "…Humfridus constructor eiusdem loci cum filiis suis Rogerio, Roberto, Willelmo…" are named as present in the charter dated 1035 under which "Willelmus adhuc puerulus…Roberti comitis filius" donated "Turstini villa" to the abbey of Préaux[2360]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Honfroi de Vaux" sent his son "Roger de Beaumont" to fight "Roger du Ternois" [Tosny] during the latter's rebellion against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy during the early years of the duke's reign[2361].

- COMTES de MEULAN.

ii) ROBERT de Vieilles (-after 1066, bur Préaux, monastery of Saint-Pierre2365). "…Humfridus constructor eiusdem loci cum filiis suis Rogerio, Roberto, Willelmo…" are named as present in the charter dated 1035 under which "Willelmus adhuc puerulus…Roberti comitis filius" donated "Turstini villa" to the abbey of Préaux[2362]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the proposed marriage of "Robertus comes Mellentinus" and the daughter of "Hugonis Crispeiensis comes" which was prohibited by "Yvo [episcopus]" on grounds of consanguinity, the mutual descent of the two parties from "Gauterus Albus de Albamarla" being set out in the chronicle[2363]. William I King of England gave him land in the Cotentin[2364]. He was killed by Roger de Clères according to Orderic Vitalis, who specifies that he was the son of Honfroi de Vieilles[2365].

iii) GUILLAUME de Vieilles . "…Humfridus constructor eiusdem loci cum filiis suis Rogerio, Roberto, Willelmo…" are named as present in the charter dated 1035 under which "Willelmus adhuc puerulus…Roberti comitis filius" donated "Turstini villa" to the abbey of Préaux[2366].

iv) DUNELME de Vieilles . The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Her daughter became a nun at Saint-Leger de Préaux[2367].

m ---.

b) [ROGER (-after [1060]). "…Ingulfus dapifer, Rogerius filius Toraldi, Unfredus filius Ansquitilli, Rainaldus Foliot, Ricardus de Sturavilla, Gosfridus filius Rotberti Venatoris, Nigellus de Glanvilla, Rodulfus camerarius…Serlus filius Alveredi, Ricardus Britesonis filius" witnessed the charter dated to [1060] under which "Niellus vicecomes" donated six churches on Guernsey to the abbey of Marmoutier[2368]. It is not certain that Roger was the brother of Honfroi de Vieilles. However, no other person named Thorold has yet been identified in the primary sources so far consulted.]

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Thorold de Ponteaudemer d'Harcourt [Parents] 1, 2 was born 3, 4 about 945 in Pont-Audemer, Haute-Normandie, France. He died 5 about 1036 in Préaux, Haute-Normandie, France. He married 6 Avelina Duceline de Crepon in 979 in France.

   Other marriages:

       de Crepon, Senfrie

       de Montfort, Anceline Sur Risle

   [Notes] 

Avelina Duceline de Crepon [Parents] 1, 2 was born 3 about 945 in Pont-Audemer, Haute-Normandie, France. She married 4 Thorold de Ponteaudemer d'Harcourt in 979 in France.

   Other marriages:

       de Bolebec, Osbern Lord de Giffard

   [Notes] 

They had the following children:

     		F 	i 	Josceline de Ponteaudemer d'Harcourt

     		F 	ii 	Lessiline d'Harcourt

     		M 	iii 	Humphrey de Vieilles de Ponteaudemer d'Harcourt

     		F 	iv 	Emma Torta d'Harcourt

Thorold de Ponteaudemer d'Harcourt [Parents] 1, 2 was born 3, 4 about 945 in Pont-Audemer, Haute-Normandie, France. He died 5 about 1036 in Préaux, Haute-Normandie, France. He married 6 Anceline de Montfort Sur Risle about 990.

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http://www.thepeerage.com/p17593.htm#i175925

Thorold, Seigneur de Pont-Audemer1

M, #175925

Last Edited=4 Dec 2005

Child of Thorold, Seigneur de Pont-Audemer

Humphrey de Vieilles, Seigneur de Vielles et Pont-Audemer+1

Citations

[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume VII, page 521. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.

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Torf the Rich married in 955 Ensorberge. They had two sons as follows:

1. Thurbold de Pontaudemer, the eldest son.

2. Turquetil, Turqueville or Tanqueraye, de Neufmarche, second son.

House of Beamont

Bernard the Dane

?

└─>Torf le Riche, seigneur de Pont-Audemer (born c. 910)

  │

  └─>Turold de Pont-Audemer (c. 940)

     │ 

     └─>Onfroi de Vieilles called de Harcourt (c. 975)

        │

        └─>Roger de Beaumont (le Barbu) († 1094)

           │

           ├─>Robert de Beaumont (1050 – 1118)

           │  │

           │  ├─>Galéran IV de Meulan (1104 – 1166)

           │  │  └─> earls of Worcester branch

           │  │

           │  └─>Robert II de Beaumont (1104 – 1168)

           │     └─> earls of Leicester branch

           │

           └─>Henri de Beaumont called de NeufBourg (1046 – 1123)

              └─> earls of Warwick branch  

-------------------- Touroude was also called Turulf de Pont Audemer.

Touroude de Torville , seigneur de Pont Audemer, married Seinfreda de Crepon, daughter of Herbastus de Crepon Sr., circa 950--presumably when he was a small child.

Touroude was a forester in the area of St. Vaast d'Equiqueville.

He married Duvelina de Crepon, daughter of Herbastus de Crepon Sr., before 975.

See "My Lines"

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p64.htm#i8445 )

from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm ) -------------------- 1+ Josceline de abt 0973 France, High Normandy, Eure, Pont Audemer m. Hugues de Montgomery

2+ Humphrey de 0975 9/28/1044 France, High Normandy, Eure, Pont Audemer m. Aubreye de la Haie

3 Ilbert abt 0988 France, High Normandy, Eure, Pont Audemer

-------------------- Touroude was born about 950 in Normandy, France. By inheritance from his father was Seigneur du Ponteautorf, de Torville, Torcy, Torny, and Torly he became Sire du Ponteaudemer, which became his principal residence and by which name he was commonly known. By his marriage he enhanced his position among the Norman nobility, and he was a prominent figure during the reigns of Dukes Richard II., Richard III., and Robert "the Devil" (996-1035). He married about 980, WEVIA (Duceline) DE CRÊPON, born 942 of Pont-Audemer, Eure, France, who was a younger sister of the Duchess Gunnora, wife of Richard I., Duke of Normandy.

Children: Herbrard, Gilberd, Richard, Ilbert, Josseline, Humphrey de Vuelles -------------------- Touroude de Torville , seigneur de Pont Audemer1

b. 949

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Father seigneur de Pont-Audemer Torf de Torville b. 928

    Also called Turulf de Pont Audemer.2 Touroude de Torville , seigneur de Pont Audemer was born in 949.1 He was the son of seigneur de Pont-Audemer Torf de Torville. Touroude de Torville , seigneur de Pont Audemer married Seinfreda de Crepon, daughter of Herbastus de Crepon Sr., circa 950. Touroude de Torville , seigneur de Pont Audemer was was a forester in the area of St. Vaast d'Equiqueville. He married Duvelina de Crepon, daughter of Herbastus de Crepon Sr., before 975.

Family 1

Seinfreda de Crepon b. circa 932

Child

   * Josseline de Beaumont+ b. c 9553

Family 2

Duvelina de Crepon b. circa 936

Child

   * Humphrey de Vielles+ b. c 975

Citations

  1. [S467] GdRdF, online http://jeanjacques.villemag.free.fr/, Comte d'Harcourt.

  2. [S221] Todd A. Farmerie, "Gunnor of Normandy".

  3. [S209] Somerset Herald J.R. Planché, Planché, J.R..

-------------------- Generation One

1. TORF1 was born circa 920, and died between 950 and 1030. He married circa 950, ERTEMBERGE DE BRIQUEBEC. [67, 28, 103]

Seigneur de Torville

possibly a son of Bernard the Dane, the most powerful of the feudal nobles of

Normandy but this relationship has not been proved.

Children: + 2 i. TOURADE2 DE PONTAUDEMER, b. circa 950; m. EVA DE CREPON circa 980.

3 ii. TURCHETIL. 

Seigneur de Turqueville, ancestor of the famous harcourt family of Normandy and

England.

4 iii. WILLIAM DE TORVILLE. 

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Generation Two

2. TOURADE2 DE PONTAUDEMER (Torf1), son of (1) Torf1 and Ertemberge (de BRIQUEBEC) _____, was born circa 950[100], and died between 980 and 1060. He married circa 980, EVA DE CREPON. [67, 32, 103]

younger sister of the Dutchess Gunnora, wife of Richard I, Duke of normandy

(Cf),

Children: + 5 i. HUMPHREY3 DE VEULLES, b. circa 980; m. AUBEREE DE LA HAYE circa 1005.

6 ii. HERBRARD DU PONTEAUDEMER. 

7 iii. GILBERD DU PONTEAUDEMER. 

8 iv. RICHARD DU PONTEAUDEMER. 

9 v. ILBERT DU PONTEAUDEMER. 

10 vi. JOSSELINE. 

+ 11 vii. JOSCELINE; m. (AAL-3) HUGUES DE MONTGOMERY in 994.

http://armidalesoftware.com/issue/full/Thaler_238_main.html#N2