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Thurstan / Turstin (Richard) Haldup (Haldub), Baron de La Haye-du-Puits et du Plessis

Birthplace: La Haye-du-Puits, Basse-Normandie, France
Death: Died in Halnaker, West Sussex, England
Immediate Family:

Son of Thurston Avranches, vicomte d'Avranches, chambellan de Robert II duc de Normandie and Judith de Montanolier
Husband of Anna De La Haye and Emma Wife of Thurstan (Richard) Haldup
Father of Eudes-au-Capel "Dapifer" de la Haye, Baron of La Haye, senechal of Normandy; Ralph (Raoul, Ranulf) I de la Haye, Seigneur de la Haye, of Halnaker, Seneschal de Robert Mortain; Emma de la Haye and Adelaide de la Haye
Brother of Robert "the Chamberlain" Bigod; Humphrey de Tillieul or Bigod; Richard le Goz, Viscount of Avranches; Renouf / Ranulf le Goz d'Avranches and Gislebert / Gilbert le Goz

Occupation: Sieur, de la Haye-du-Puits, de Lessay
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About Thurstan / Turstin (Richard) Haldup (Haldub), Baron de La Haye-du-Puits et du Plessis

There are many different versions regarding who his parents were. Many web-based genealogies claim him to have been a son of Saint-Sauveur, while others position him in the le Goz family. Based upon a number of factors, the latter is more likely.

In "Les Barons du Cotentin", local Cotentin (Normandie) historian Alan Davies lists four sons as the children of Turtain Gotz (Thurstan le Goz) and Judith de Monterolier:

  • Renouf (mort avant 1090)
  • Turstin (Turtain) Haldup, ancestre des barons de La Haye-du-Puits
  • Gislebert d'Avranches
  • Richard Gotz, dit RIchard d'Avranches (1024-1082), vicomte de lieu en 1050, epousa Emma de Comteville demi-soeur du duc Guillaume

Davies says that Thurstan Haldup was Baron of La Haye-du-Puits et du Plessis; possessed numerous domaines in the Cotentin and Calvados and was the founder of the Abbaye of Lessay in 1056, with the accord of the bishop of Coutances (Geoffroy de Montbray). He died before 1080. From his marriage with Emma/Anne of Normandie, daughter of Richard II, he had notably two sons:

  • Raoul, senechal for Count Robert de Mortain, died on crusade. Father of Robert, who became seigneur de La Haye following the death of his uncle Eudes.
  • Eudes-au-Capel, baron of La Haye, senechal of Normandy.

Eudes appeared in many charters around 1080, and undertook to resolve the disputes of his office. Benefactor of the Abbey of Lessay, Eudes was buried there 3 Feb 1098, leaving the barony without posterity (no offspring).

His successor was his nephew, Robert de la Haye (Senior), son of Raoul, who inherited the seigneurie and died before 1154. From his marriage with Muriel de Colswein de Lincoln was born

  • Richard, baron de La Haye, and
  • Raoul, seigneur de Montchaton (on the Seine River, next to the chateau de Regneville), who had many offspring.

The brothers were at the defense of Cherbourg against Geoffroy Plantagenet. Richard, constable of Normandy, baron de la Haye, died in 1169. In 1154 he founded the Abbey of Blanchelande. From his marriage in 1140 with Mathilde de Vernon dame de Varenguebec, were born three daughters, of whom Gillette, who married Richard II du Hommet. Thus the barony of La Haye-du-Puits entered into the Hommet family.

Please note that Davies' account contrasts with that of Cawley in that Davies names Raoul (Ranulf) as the son of Thurstan while Cawley posits that it was in fact Thurstan's daughter who was married to Raoul/Ranulf.

From Charles Cawley's Medieval Lands database: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm

FAMILY of THURSTAN HALDUP

1. THURSTAN [Richard] Haldup (-after 1079). "Ricardus qui vocatur Turstinus Haldup cum Anna uxore sua, Eudoque filius eorum" founded the abbey of Essay by undated charter, dated to [1079/87][63]. Henry I King of England confirmed the possessions of Holy Trinity, Lessay, including the donations by "Ricardus qui vocatus est Turstinus Haldup et Eudo filius eius", by charter dated 1126[64]. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Lessai, including donations by "Turstini Haldup et Eudonis filii eius" confirmed by "Roberti de Haia et Murielis uxoris sue et Richardi et Radulfi filiorum eorum", by charter dated [1185/Jan 1188][65].

m ANNE, daughter of --- (-after 1079). "Ricardus qui vocatur Turstinus Haldup cum Anna uxore sua, Eudoque filius eorum" founded the abbey of Essay by undated charter, dated to [1079/87][66].

Thurstan & his wife had four children:

a) EUDES (-after [1081]). "Ricardus qui vocatur Turstinus Haldup cum Anna uxore sua, Eudoque filius eorum" founded the abbey of Essay by undated charter, dated to [1079/87][67]. Henry I King of England confirmed the possessions of Holy Trinity, Lessay, including the donations by "Ricardus qui vocatus est Turstinus Haldup et Eudo filius eius", by charter dated 1126[68]. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Lessai, including donations by "Turstini Haldup et Eudonis filii eius" confirmed by "Roberti de Haia et Murielis uxoris sue et Richardi et Radulfi filiorum eorum", by charter dated [1185/Jan 1188][69]. [Vicomte de Contentin. "…Eudo vicecomes Constantini…" witnessed the charter dated to [1060] under which Guillaume II Duke of Normandy granted "Brenerias" to the abbey of Bayeux[70]. Delisle suggests that Eudes was the son of Thurstan Haldup. However, it appears more likely that he was the younger brother of Vicomte Néel [II].] "Eudo filius Turstini" donated his part of "villa…Helville" to the abbey of Marmoutier by charter dated to [1081][71].

b) EMMA (-[1090/95]). She is named by Orderic Vitalis, who also names her father, and as children of her marriage, Guillaume, Reginald, Petronilla, Geva and "several other sons and daughters"[72]. Orderic Vitalis records that, after the murder of her husband, she took refuge with her brother Eudo "steward of the Duke of Normandy" (with which title he must be distinguished from Eudes de Rie, son of Hubert de Rie, see UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY), and passed "almost 30 years of honourable widowhood there"[73]. m ARNAUD d'Echaffour, son of GUILLAUME & his first wife Hiltrude --- (-I Jan [1065]).

c) daughter . Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the foundation charter of the priory in which her son Robert de La Haye names himself "son of Ranulf the seneschal of Robert de Mortain" and "nephew of Eudo dapifer" [son of Thurstan Haldup][74]. m RANULF, son of ---. Seneschal of Robert de Mortain.

d) ADELAIDE . Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of la Trinité de Caen, including the donation by "Adelaidis filie Tustini Haldup" of "alteram medietatem ville de Carpiquet", by charter dated to [1180/82][75].


-------------------- Vital Statistics Thurstan (known also as Richard) Haldup. Died after 1079. Married Emma of unknown parents. Early Norman lord who founded the abbey of Essay with his son Eude and daughter Emma. Four children:

  1. Eudes, died after 1081.
  2. Emma, died between 1090 and 1095. Confirmed children: Guillaume, Reginald, Petronilla, Geva, and several other sons and daughters. Widowed when her husband was murdered and took refuge with her brother, Eude, steward of the Duke of Normandy.
  3. unnamed daughter, who married Randulf, son of ___, Seneschal of Robert de Mortain. Her son was Robert de La Haye.
  4. Adelaide.