William Comstock, Sr.
|Also Known As:||"Goodman"|
|Birthplace:||London, Middlesex, England|
|Death:||Died in London, Middlesex, England|
|Managed by:||Jeremy Jed Lyman|
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This surname of COMSTOCK was an English locational name for 'one who came from COMSTOCK', the monastery in a narrow valley' in England. Surnames derived from placenames are divided into two broad categories; topographic names and habitation names. Topographic names are derived from general descriptive references to someone who lived near a physical feature such as an oak tree, a hill, a stream or a church. Habitation names are derived from pre-existing names denoting towns, villages and farmsteads. Other classes of local names include those derived from the names of rivers, individual houses with signs on them, regions and whole countries. In the Middle Ages heraldry came into use as a practical matter. It originated in the devices used to distinguish the armoured warriors in tournament and war, and was also placed on seals as marks of identity. As far as records show, true heraldry began in the middle of the 12th century, and appeared almost simultaneously in several countries of Western Europe. A notable member of the name was Antony B. COMSTICK, (1844-1915) an American moral reformer, who became the Secretary for the Society for the Suppression of Vice. His puritanical zeal led him to condemn the plays of Bernard Shaw, who retaliated by coining the word 'COMSTOCKERY', meaning narrow-minded bigotry. Another famous member was Henry Tompkins Paige Comstock, who gave his name to the COMSTOCK Lode, which produced vast amounts of gold and silver, near Virginia City, Navada. Over the centuries, most people in Europe have accepted their surname as a fact of life, as irrevocable as an act of God. However much the individual may have liked or disliked the surname, they were stuck with it, and people rarely changed them by personal choice. A more common form of variation was in fact involuntary, when an official change was made, in other words, a clerical error. Among the humbler classes of European society, and especially among illiterate people, individuals were willing to accept the mistakes of officials, clerks and priests as officially bestowing a new version of their surname, just as they had meekly accepted the surname they had been born with. In North America, the linguistic problems confronting immigration officials at Ellis Island in the 19th century were legendary as a prolific source of Anglicization.
Hello. Welcome to the Comstock Family History Genealogy Mystery story. My name is Raymond James Comstock IV. I am a 12th generation Comstock in America (or 13th depending on who you believe, which is the point of this story) and I am originally descended from Christopher Comstock of Fairfield, Connecticut. And that's the reason that I am authoring this site. Because common American mythology holds that all Comstock's are descended from William Weathersfield Comstock who came to America in 1635. Countless books and articles refer to William (who supposedly had a four, five or six boys depending on who you believe and one girl - I believe it was three boys maybe only two) as Christopher's father.
However, in my research of Comstock genealogy, I have found that there appears to be a lot of evidence to suggest that Christopher was not William's son, but rather, the son of Frederick Komstohk of Frankfurt. If this is true, the implications affect thousands of Christopher's descendants and the whole Comstock family. This story is about my research into this mystery and what I started discovered. It all started with the origin of the Comstock family code of arms.
To be honest, I didn't intend to start trying to solve this mystery. I didn't even know there was a mystery until recently. But the Comstock mystery has been going on for over 150 years and it all starts with the Comstock family crest or code of arms. That's initially what prompted me to start researching the Comstock family history; the interest I have in our family crest. But as I did some research on the crest, I discovered that it lies in the center of this great mystery.
The Comstock family crest is a shield with two bears on both sides of a cross that is a sword in the middle of the shield. The sword is piercing a crescent and the top of the shield is adorned with a German baronial helmet and an elephant. My initial research was focused on discovering the origin and meaning of the crest. And that's when I discovered this page which explains the meaning of the crest:
So according to this article and others I have read, there is no record of the Comstock family crest that extends to the old country and so many people believe that DR John Lee Comstock who lived in the early 1800s made the crest up around that time. The reason people believe that is:
1) no older copy can be found 2) John Lee Comstock claims to have found a history of the German Komstohks for 9 generations in Germany that ended with the migration of Carl von Comstock in 1547 to Wales to escape religious persecution (some event referred to as the Benedict treason). This lineage was apparently copied and given to him by someone at the Muniment Office at Frankfort on the Main. No record of this has ever been found since. 3) no record of the "Benedict Treason" or of Carl von Komstock can be found.
There are some other contributing factors we will discuss as we go but that's the general story. And to be honest having a 150 year old coat of arms that applies to the entire Comstock family is still a wonderful thing and I would not have been disappointed to discover John Lee did make up the coat of arms. However, after hours and hours of research, I do not believe that John Lee Comstock made up the Comstock family coat of arms. I believe that it is authentic and that the owner of the coat of Arms was Christopher Komstohk. Unfortunately the implication of that is that there are two Comstock lines in America, one started by William and one by Christopher and that Christopher's line is the rightful owner of the arms (unless William and Frederick are somehow related which is possible but not probable as William was never referred to as a Welshman).
This conclusion (which I will present reasons for shortly) makes me a little sad because it implys that as an ancestor of Christopher, I am not related to the countless Comstocks of amazing virtue from William's line. However, I just want to uncover the truth and I am hopeful that this Web site will provide the foundation for all Comstocks and other family members with different names to come together and try to prove one way or another what the real story is. Until then however, this is why I believe that Christopher Comstock is not William's son, but rather Frederick Komstohk's son who is the original owner of the Comstock arms:
1) There is no direct evidence that Christopher was related to William. He is not listed in William's will. In all books I have read, he is listed as the "probable son" of William and in Ralph Hinman's book about the early colonists that he published around 1850, famous historian Hinman (and many others) have claimed that the reason for supposing Christopher was Williams son is only the fact that they had the same last name, some of their sons had the same names and both lived in Connecticut.
Here are the reasons that Hinman and CB Comstock have attributed for Christopher being William's son:
Ralph Hinmans Book:
CB Comstocks Book:
CB Comstock was a general who went to Germany to try to verify the story that John Lee Comstock told of finding a 9 generation pedigree of Komstohks at Frankfort on the Main. He was unable to locate the document or any knowledge there of a Komstohk family. However, if the Komstohks left Germany 200 years prior as a result of religious persecution, there would probably be no memory of them left at that time.
It is regrettable that he was unable to find the document John Lee Comstock claims to have found. CB Comstock says that John Lee was probably misinformed. Others have speculated it was a prank by John Lee Comstock. All of which is speculation based on CB Comstock's inability to find proof of John Comstock's story.
2) In Ralph Hinman's book, he tells the story of the family tradition of Carl von Komstohk and the German decent but still claims William as the founder of all Comstocks.
3) Ironically, Hinman and Dr John Lee Comstock are friends! There is a passage in Hinmans book about John Lee where Hinman describes John Lee telling him the horror stories of John Lee Comstock's experience as a surgeon in the War of 1812.
Hinman’s write-up of John Lee Comstock - http://books.google.com/books?id=KTkBAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA709&dq=hinman+%2B+komstohk&ei=3c5yS-_WNYOKlATZjsnxBA&cd=1#v=onepage&q=john%20lee%20comstock&f=false
The fact that they were friends is probably where Hinman gets his story of the Komstohk family:
http://books.google.com/books?id=KTkBAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA709&lpg=PA709&dq=hinman+%2B+komstohk&source=bl&ots=r384bYsEAN&sig=OjB9jZpidH4Y0bPi-Xm00cZEK2I&hl=en&ei=g1Z4S9uICpT-sQPb75nLCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false (bottom of this page).
This same story is repeated in a number of texts appearing after the publication of Hinman's book, almost word for word. But, in this story, note that only Carl Von Komstohk is mentioned and that the family is from Wales. No mention of Frederick Komstohk is found in this book nor any other writing or story that I can find that is attributed to Dr John Lee Comstock (if you know of one please show it to me!).
4) All of this implies that if the coat of arms is made up by John Lee Comstock, he would also have to have made up the story of Carl von Komstohk, the German decent and everything having to do with that story. If he made everything up, then we are all William's ancestors and there is no coat of arms and no Komstohk family. He would also have had to make up the story of Frederick being the father of Christopher Comstock. Everything related to the Komstohk name would have to have been fabricated by Dr. John Lee Komstohk for it to not be authentic because he is the one who claimed to have found the documented proof and told not only his friend and Historian Ralph Hinman who published it in his book, but also said the same to his sister, which she repeats in a letter that she references when asked about the document after his death:
5) Conversely, if Carl von Komstohk really existed and Frederick Komstohk was Christopher’s father, then the family coat of arms is authentic. If Christopher was the only bearer of these arms in America, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone why the coat of arms is such a mystery to all of William's descendants. So a quick summary before I proceed: One of two cases exists here: Either the coat of arms was made up by John Lee Comstock or, it is authentic and there is a German history of one line of the Comstock family that is descended from Christopher and that's where the coat of arms came from (this is what I believe).
Ok so let's take a look at the possibility that John Lee Comstock made up the coat of arms. It had to have been John Lee if it was anyone, because it is his story that he found a document in Germany that verified the existence of a Carl von Komstohk. But here is where the story doesn't make sense for a number of reasons.
Dr John Lee Comstock was a famous doctor and an even more famous writer and philosopher. He has a number of books listed in the library of Congress and was a renown person in his time. He certainly didn't need to make up a coat of arms to impress anyone. And as a historian himself, it isn't consistent with his character. If you look up any books in Google books by John Lee Comstock, you will see what I mean. He is a very serious man concerned with the proper order of things, chemistry, geology, and philosophy. The contention that this was somehow a joke doesn't make sense because there is no motive, no punch-line and it is contrary to the character of the man. Also, considering how intelligent John Lee was, if he wanted to make up a story about his family history, why not fabricate the story around William's father, who to this day remains unknown?
However, let us consider that despite all these facts, that contrary to his observed character, Dr. John Lee Comstock made up this whole story and wanted to perpetrate this myth for whatever reason.
This means that he would have had to have lied to his friend Dr. Hinman who wrote the story in his book as well as his own sister. See this quote where she verifies that he went to Germany and found a record of the Von Komstohk line -
John Lee Comstock would not have done such a thing, but again, let's pretend he did for the sake of argument.
This means that he would have had to have talked to his friend Ralph Hinman about what Hinman had learned of the Comstock family before Hinman published his book. If John Lee Comstock was going to invent a story about his family lineage and create a code of arms that would stand up to the public scrutiny of the academic society of which he was a part of, he would have had to made sure his story was consistent with what his friend Ralph Hinman already knew about his family so as not to contradict anything written by him.
This would mean that it is probable that Dr John Lee Comstock knew what Ralph Hinman reports in his book; that John Lee Comstock was a descendant of William's son, Daniel and not his supposed son Christopher. So if John Lee Comstock made up the story, he made up a story that created a separate line of the Comstocks that he was not a part of. And so he would not be entitled to use the coat of arms that he made up. It doesn't make any sense for him to do that. And clearly he would have had to lie to his whole family because his brother, T Griswold's obituary contains the same story of the German decent (although no mention of Frederick, which means clearly the family believed it).
I think a recap is in order again. I am trying to prove by deductive reasoning that John Lee Comstock did not invent the Comstock coat of arms. And if he did not, then it must have been authentic because it is John Lee's story that is reported in Hinmans book in 1852 about the Komstohk coat of arms and Baron Von Komstohk. So if John Lee did make up the coat of arms, he also had to have made up the story about Carl Von Komstohk, Carl being the Great Grandfather of Frederick and Christopher being Frederick's son.
The reason that its important to note that neither Hinman or John Lee or John Lee's brother's obituary mention Frederick Komstohk (or that he was Christopher's father, or that his wife's name was Mary MacDonald or the names of Frederick's other brothers and sisters), is they did not know that was the missing link in the story.
If you believe that John Lee Comstock did not make up the story, then you can understand how he found a document in Germany that had a line of Komstohks up until the escape of Carl Von Komstohk from religious persecution in 1547 (1547 in Germany is a well documented year of conflict between Catholics and Protestants). He would not have known at that point who Carl's children were or how they were related to William Comstock, who in his mind, was the father of all Comstocks in America (according to his friend Ralph Hinman). It would not have occurred to him that Christopher might not be Williams son, although it is Christopher’s ancestors in Hinmans book that donate the cup with the code of arms to the church, so the clues were there.
John Lee Comstock died in Hartford, Connecticut, 21 November, 1858
However, 44 years later, a man named Charles Melbourne Selleck, a town historian of Norwalk Connecticut of 30 years and someone with no interest in the Comstock mystery, authored a book called the History of Norwalk in 1896. And in his book he claims that Christopher Komstohk was the son of Frederick Komstohk, who was the great grandson of Carl Von Komstohk.
He claims that Christophers decendants claim that Frederick married a Mary McDonald in Edinburgh England in 1611 and that they had 5 children, the third of which Christopher, came to Connecticut in 1652. It is interesting to note that NONE of this information appears in Hinmans book and John Lee would have had to have made this up and somehow communicated it to this author who wrote this book 50 years later.
Additionally, this author would not have used Hinman as his only source as he lived in Norwalk his whole life and would have interviewed descendants of Christopher directly. This second source about the Komstohk family with additional information about Christopher seems to be the key to disproving that John Lee made up the whole story. Also the author claims that the information is from descendants of Christopher, and John Lee is not a descendant of Christopher which was already know from Hinman’s book fifty years prior.
The Author Charles Melbourne Selleck is one of the most famous and well respected men in the history of Norwalk, and after you read his biography you will see that the authenticity of his work seems amazingly compelling:
In this text it claims that the city of Norwalk is like his "twin brother". He lived there all his life, was a principle of the school for many years, was in charge of the 350 year anniversary and wrote this book that he dedicated to the town of Norwalk. It is a good bet that he personally interviewed the ancestors of Christopher Comstock and knew of their families as he was a school principle and owned a private school.
At the bottom of this page in The History of Norwalk written by Selleck is the story of Frederick Komstohk:
http://books.google.com/books?id=FulEAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA250&dq=fredrick+Komstock&ei=lfFwS7SUF46alASbg73aBg&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false (see note 2 on the bottom of this page in Google Books)
This book was written after the death of John Lee Comstock and since John Lee never mentions Frederick anywhere, it is impossible that the author of the book who has lived in Norwalk his whole life, would be using John Lee's story as the basis for what he is writing.
So John Lee couldn't have made up the story because it was validated by Selleck.
Additionally, here is another book written by another independent author that mentions Frederick and it was written after the death of Dr. John Comstock:
Its called "American Ancestry, Giving the name and decent in the male line. Vol 11" and it was written in 1898. This book says that Christopher is the son of Frederick and that Frederick married Mar MacDonald in Edinburgh England in 1611. It also lists their children: Samuel, Daniel, Christopher, John and Catherine. The names of the boys are all the same as Williams, or least who William was supposed to have fathered.
History of Norwalk was written in 1896, contains the same information plus birthdates, so it could have influenced this book. The same as it could have influenced the other mentions of Frederick found in early texts:
Listed in Mathews American Armory:
http://www.archive.org/stream/reportoftriginte00yalerich/reportoftriginte00yalerich_djvu.txt another reference to Frederick
All of these would have to have been somehow influenced by John Lee Comstock if the story were made up.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mifgs/surnames/_kip-kzz__1.html (strange unexplained reference to Frederick in Flint Michigan database)
Also, here is the reference to Christopher being a Welshman (although this was also written after History of Norwalk):
I believe, if you look at John Lee Comstock's character, the fact that he wouldn't have been related to this coat of arms based on the story he supposedly created, and that his story was verified and expanded on by a well respected historian who lived his whole life in the city where Christopher Comstock lived, it seems certain that Frederick Komstock is Christopher Comstock's father.
I don't believe these facts were ever considered by the author of this book who claims the code of arms is a prank:
Also interesting is that Christopher Comstock was noted to be a Welshman, whereas William, who some claim to be his father, was from Devonshire (although William's origin is still being debated).
http://www.archive.org/stream/comstockgenealog1907coms/comstockgenealog1907coms_djvu.txt reference again where John Lee Comstock's sister confirms that John Lee claims to have found the Komstohk line in germany (do a search for "komstohk" within the document).
Note this document makes no mention of Frederick and attributes Christopher to William which is consistent with the story of what John Lee would have thought if the story were true.
This, in my opinion, is because John Lee Comstock never discovered Frederick and didn't understand that Christopher wasn't William's son. I believe John Lee Comstock was trying to find a link between William (who he thought was the father of all Comstock's in America and Baron Carl Von Komstock who was the last person he had a record of in Germany).
Also in this document it mentions Hinman writing about Christopher coming from England with the cup which supposed had the coat of arms engraved on it, which is curious, because if he was William’s child according to the common belief, he would have been an infant at that time when he came to America and the cup would have certainly been in William's custody.
Also interestingly, many people who believe Christopher was William’s son also believe that he was born in America which is clearly contrary to what Hinman writes. There is a lot of confusion about Christopher in most genealogy references.
Also amazing is according to The History of Norwalk, Fredericks boys had the same names as Williams just in a different order! Frederick had Samuel, John, Christopher and Daniel (and Catherine) while William had John, Daniel (for sure), Samuel, William, Gideon (Probably to Maybe) and Christopher (probably not). But, these are all very common biblical names, and if you look at what everyone else in Connecticut was named at that time, it begins to look less strange.
William’s sons were John, Daniel, Samuel (also not proven conclusively) and Christopher (if you believe it).
There are also records of another William and a Gideon in some books that I may or may not be true. I believe that the William who some have claimed is Williams son is actually a reference to Williams son John. Gideon died as an infant in England but the confusion started because Daniel baptized many of his children in New London using the name Gideon. So I believe that William (John) and Gideon (Daniel) are names and references belonging to existing children. If you cross reference the names of spouses and children for both situations it becomes apparent:
Compare these two references: http://books.google.com/books?id=pJU0Fw3ZqNUC&pg=PA133&lpg=PA133&dq=gideon+comstock&source=bl&ots=XBVyJDygGO&sig=imRupuMNWmA_q3frKyI0ZH7sdYA&hl=en&ei=8QZ4S7DSCIP4sQOkvri8Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CAkQ6AEwATgU#v=onepage&q=gideon%20comstock&f=false
It seems unlikely there was more than one Zipporah Comstock at that time and every record I can find of him states he is Daniels son.
Also it is a matter of record that Maj. Samuel Comstock (great grandson of Christopher Comstock) donated in his will to the Church at Wilton a silver cup that had an emblem on it. This cup is described in the will as being a family heirloom of venerable generations and it is speculated that it had the coat of arms on it and is the same cup that Hinman refers to (Hinman says it had the code of arms on it in the same reference cited above).
This would all be consistent with a story of a Carl Von Komstohk fleeing Germany (the bears on the crest are German in origin as they almost never appear in English heraldry) to Wales (the family motto is Welsh - note that William was from Devon, a different part of England and that Christopher was claimed to be a Welshman) and that his grandson Fredrick had a son named Christopher Comstock who settle in Fairfield and then Norwalk.
It would also explain why may Comstocks years later would wonder about the origin of a family crest that had never been part of their family. And in John Lee's case, I don't believe that he ever knew about Fredrick being Christophers dad (which was not in Hinmans book) because he would have been able to put together that the crest wasn't part of his line. This is a critical point. The story of the Komstohks means he is not an owner of the crest and that the Komstohk lineage not his as his family was decended from Daniel (Williams son).
The record in Germany would only have been up to Carl Von Komstohk and since John Lee thought William was Christopher's father, he would not understood the connection between William and the Komstohk family (of which there is none but coincidence, unless Frederick and William were related or unless you believe that John Lee Comstock made up the story, and that a noted town historian of 30 years would coaborate the story some 50 years later with no motive).
It should be noted also that in every book I can find on the Comstock history, there is no proof that Christopher Comstock was William's son.
It should also be noted that while it appears that Samuel and Daniel are related (both Williams sons) because they owned land next to each other, there is no proof they were related. Only Daniel and John's son William (John had passed) were cited in William's will although Samuel had also already passed so it is hard to draw much conclusion (Samuels children were not in Williams will though). The other curious thing is that there is a reference to Samuel being a Welshman also which is why I would say there is room for speculation. Also Frederick is supposed to have had a son Samuel which leaves open the possibility that Samuel Comstock of Rhode Island was also Frederick’s son. Also, a noted historian of Connecticut, Caulkins, writes in her book that she believes it is probable that William only had two boys (Daniel and John) and a girl named Elizabeth:
So there are some hints that it is a possibility but nothing substantial and there is probably as much evidence to the contrary so it’s hard to say. However, unless a public document can be shown where John Lee Comstock mentioned Frederick Komstohk and Mary MacDonald, it would seem that The History of Norwalk would confirm the Komstohk story of German decent.
However, there are a lot of facts still to be discovered to prove anything beyond a shadow of a doubt. My purpose in creating this site was to frame the mystery as I see it, get feedback from others and hopefully some proof one way or the other as to whom Christopher Comstock's father was (William or Frederick) and where the Family Crest originated from. Please contribute to the story if you have relevant information! More to come...
William Comstock, Sr.'s Timeline
London, Middlesex, England
Probably London, Middlesex, England
July 4, 1595
Culmstock, Cullompton, Devon, England
London, Middlesex, England