Walkelin de Ferrers, of Derby, Lord of Egginton, Founder of the Derby School (c.1136 - c.1189) MP

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Birthplace: Derby, England
Death: Died in Jerusalem, Seige of Acre, Palestine
Occupation: Lord of Oakham
Managed by: Harald Tveit Alvestrand
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About Walkelin de Ferrers, of Derby, Lord of Egginton, Founder of the Derby School

Walcheline (Walkelin) de Ferrers or Ferrieres, of Derby, Lord of Egginton

NOT the same as William de Ferrers

son of Robert de Ferrers 2nd Lord of Derby

married to Goda de Tosny (Tony)

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Note from Pam Wilson (Curator) Oct 2010:

There were indeed at least *three* distinct Walkelins in the Ferrers family, as Wikipedia explains in a disambiguation page.

Walkelin de Ferrers may refer to:

The only problem is that even though there is this wonderful profile of Walkelin of Derby (married to Goda de Toeni) in Wikipedia, I don't find him listed in the FMG.

On the soc.gen.medieval message board I found a discussion about him but Peter Stewart, one of the regular medievalists in that group, stated:

Goda de Tosny married Walchelin, seigneur of Ferrières-Saint-Hilaire & lord of Oakham (died in or after 1189). ... I don't think she is recorded to have had any other husband. Her father Robert is conjectured to have been a son of Raoul V, seigneur of Tosny (died 1162) by Margaret de Beaumont whose father was a first cousin of Robert de Neufbourg. The latter's wife Godeheut is said to have been a daughter of Raoul IV of Tosny (died 1126) by Alice

of Northumberland.

He followed up with a later note:

As for ... Walkelin, "in or after 1189" was not exactly right:

he was on crusade at the same time as his William, having arrived in Palestine in July 1190, and he was still living on 7 September 1191. As far as I know he was not recorded again after that date.

So Stewart seems to conflate the latter two Walkelins listed above.

The research in Wikipedia on The Derby School seems quite compelling though.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkelin_de_Derby

Walkelin de Derby

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Walkelin de Derby (c. 1135 – 1190), also known as Walkelin de Ferrieres, anglicized as Walkelin de Ferrers, was a Norman lord of Egginton in the English county of Derbyshire. He was the last moneyer of the Derby Mint [citation needed] and the principal founder of Derby School.

Life

Walkelin is believed to have been born in about 1135, the son of Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Earl of Derby and his wife, Margaret Peverel. In 1162, he married Goda de Toeni (born about 1141), the daughter and heiress of Robert de Toeni of Eggington in Derbyshire, and settled in the county. They had at least two children, Margery (born about 1165) and Isabel (born about 1172). According to some reports, Walkelin died in 1190 at the Siege of Acre, Jerusalem. Others place his death at Oakham Castle in Rutland, although this probably refers to his second cousin, Walkelin de Ferrers, the lord of Oakham.

Derby School

The ancient Derby School may have been first established by William de Barbâ Aprilis and Walter Durdant, Bishop of Lichfield, in the reign of Henry II. It was re-founded in the second half of the 12th century by Walkelin and his wife, Goda, who gave their own house to be used for the school[1]. However, there is no firm information on where the house was.[2]

Magna Britannia[3] says of Derby School -

   Whilst Richard Peche, who succeeded Walter Durdant in 1162, was Bishop of Lichfield, Walkelin de Derby and Goda his wife gave the mansion in which they dwelt, and which Walkelin had purchased of William Alsin, to the canons of Derley, on condition that the hall should be for ever used as a school-room, and the chambers for the dwelling of the master and clerks.[4].

References

  1. ^ Bishop Durdent and the foundation of Derby School (Derbyshire Archaeological Journal, vol. 33, 1911) by Benjamin Tacchella
  2. ^ A History of Derbyshire (1999) by Gladwyn Turbutt
  3. ^ Magna Britannia (volume 5, 1817) by Daniel and Samuel Lysons
  4. ^ Derby School at British History.ac.uk
   * The Derby School Register, 1570-1901, ed. Benjamin Tacchella (London, 1902)
   * Grammar school education in Derby: its early history to 1662 (in Derbyshire Miscellany, vol. 15, Part 1, 1998) by Richard Clark

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William I was 3rd Earl of Derby.

He first married Goda de Tosny, daughter of Robert de Tosny, in circa 1162. He next married our ancestor Sybil de Braose before 1168 in Sussex.

He went on the Third Crusade and he died in the Holy Land.

William was our ancestor through two distinct descent lines--one through his son William and the other through his daughter Isabel, each of whom was independently our ancestor.

See "My Lines"

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p378.htm#i6753 )

from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm ) -------------------- Walkelin = William. Died after Dec. 31, 1189 & before Oct. 21, 1190 -------------------- From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walchelin_de_Ferriers :

Walchelin de Ferrieres (or Walkelin de Ferrers) (died 1201) was a Norman baron and principal captain of Richard I of England. The Ferriers family hailed from the southern marches of Normandy and had previously protected the duchy from the hostility of the counts of Maine and Anjou. With the union of the domains of Anjou and Normandy in 1144, and the investment of Geoffrey V Plantagenet as duke of Normandy, most of this land lost its strategic importance. Walchelin was the son of Henry de Ferrieres, a nephew of Robert de Ferrers, 1st Earl of Derby. Like his father, Walchelin held the castles of Ferrières-Saint-Hilaire and Chambray for the service of 5 knights. He had 42 and 3/4 in his service, enfeoffed in his lands. In England, Walchelin held the manors of Oakham in Rutland and Lechlade in Gloucestershire. He is known to have held this land since at least 1172. During the Third Crusade, he and his son and heir, Henry, served in the force of Richard I of England. A John de Ferrieres, believed to be a nephew, was also present. Walchelin had stayed with the King in Sicily. It is apparent that Walchelin was close in the counsel of the king. He and his knights arrived at Saint-Jean d'Acre sometime in April or June 1191. Some months previously, a distant relative, William de Ferrers, 3rd Earl of Derby had been killed at the siege. After the conclusion of the siege, Richard of England and Hugh III of Burgundy marched their forces south to the city of Jaffa. Along the road, several skirmishes broke out between the marching crusaders and the Saracen army marching parallel under Saladin. On 7 September 1191, the great battle of Arsuf was fought. Richard had made Walchelin a commander of one of the elite bodies of knights according to the chronicle attributed to Geoffrey de Vinsauf. Later, in 1194, Richard was imprisoned in Germany. Walchelin brought the treasure of Normandy to Speyer and gave himself as a hostage (along with many others) to the Western Emperor Henry VI. He was freed from captivity around 1197. His sons Henry and Hugh managed his estates during the years he spent in prison. Sometime prior to his death, the younger son, Hugh was granted lordship of the manor of Lechlade. Walchelin died in 1201 and was succeeded by his son, Henry. Henry sided with John of England over King Philip II of France until December 1203 when John left Normandy, never to return. At this point, Henry did Philip homage for his Norman lands. Hugh had left England and the care of Lechlade and Oakham went to their sister, Isabella, who was married to Roger de Mortimer of Wigmore. After her death, the land was escheated to the crown as Terra Normanorum.

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Walkelin de Ferrers's Timeline

1136
1136
Derby, England
1160
1160
Age 24
Dunster, Somerset, England, United Kingdom
1163
1163
Age 27
Of, Eggington, Derbyshire, England
1165
1165
Age 29
Of, Eggington, Derbyshire, England
1166
1166
Age 30
Of, Tutbury, Staffordshire, England
1167
1167
Age 31
Ferrers, Normandy, France
1170
1170
Age 34
Of, Derby, Derbyshire, England
1172
1172
Age 36
Oakham Hall, Rutlandshire, England
1189
December 31, 1189
Age 54
Jerusalem, Seige of Acre, Palestine
1190
October 21, 1190
Age 53
Jerusalem, Seige of Acre, Palestine