John Mangum, III

FGS of Delta I.M. Hale, Blackfoot Idaho. - -Albemarle par. rec. p. 40,29, 44. - Corresp. in NC & SC - John Person's will dated Aug 8,1721-w.p. in Surrey 21 Mar 1738. William Mangum and family probably remained in Surry Co. until 1747 since he witnessed an estate inventory in June of that year. Before May of the next year, 1748, William & family had migrated into North Carolina in what was then Granville County, but is now Warren County where their sons Solomon and Joseph were born. In 1749, William began to obtain his own land in Granville Co.....In 1754, William and sons, Wm Jr. and James, are in the Militia of Granville...William was a planter and lived in St. Johns Parish, his land being in Bute County when formed out of eastern part of Granville Co. William probably died between 1789 and 1800 since he was absent from the 1800 census.----Mangum Family Bulletin, Dec 1972; (Deeds etc of NC & VA)

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RESEARCH_NOTES: 1. From the book "Pleasant Mangum and All His Kin, the Story of the Bennetts, the Mangums, and the Parhams," comp. by James Lynn Parham, Gateway Press, Inc., Baltimore, MD, 1997, Chapter 5, JohnMangum, Immigrant Ancestor: "No one Mangum has had more research and controversy associated with him than John Mangum of early Virginia. He has long been considered the original Mangum ancestor in the New World although we think there were other immigrants later. John was in the Virginia colony in the late 1600's and most consider him to the be father of those Mangums who later appear in the Albemarle Parish of Surry County. (I) Many of the present day Mangums or descendants of Mangums trace their lineage to those several families. John's origins are unclear and no ship passenger logs of his arrival have been found. Searches have been extensive. We are left with only family traditions. The first sure record we have of him is 25 May 1695 when he purchased land in Surry County, Virginia from Richard Bennett Sr. John might have been the John (Mangom?) who was a taxable in Lawnes Creek Parish, Surry Co., on 10 June 1693 and the John Mangham who listed taxes in Surry Co. on 10 June 1694.(2) John born about 1672, probably in England or English territory. Some traditions say Isle of Man, others say Wales, Ireland, etc. John almost certainly married into one of Virginia's pioneering Bennett families. That marriage and the controversy surrounding the identify of his wife Frances have been fully explored in the previous chapters on the Bennett family. John must have married into the Bennett family after 1696 but probably before 1700. The fact that John was unmarried in early 1696 is shown by the deed he made on 23 March 1695/6 to John Morrell.(3) He alone signs the deed. By law, a wife would have had to sign with him. The Mangum heads-of-household who were later in the Albemarle Parish of Surry County seem to have been born shortly after 1700. John died in Isle of Wight County, Virginia in 1737 and Frances Mangum was administrator.(4) The children of JohnMangum: The determination of the children of the immigrant John Mangum has been mostly a matter of educated guesswork. We know that Mary and Sarah Mangum, mentioned in Sarah Lancaster's will of 1722, were daughters of John Mangum. Both were apparently minors at that time. Frances, mentioned in the will of Richard Bennett Jr., may have been a daughter of John but that theory is still controversial. John who married Olive Savidge, was most likely the eldest son of John and Frances. Two other probable sons, James and William, both married Marys and recorded some of their children's births in the Albemarle Parish. Because of William's importance he will be discussed in a later chapter. For various reasons, some researchers have assigned other children to John and Frances. Among those is Henry Mangum who recorded his children's births in the Mill Swamp Baptist Church records of Isle of Wight County, beginning in 1746. His tie to John the immigrant lies in the fact that he was in the same general area and his age was approximately the ages of John's other children. JohnMangum Jr.: The first record we have of another John Mangum is in Surry County, 1728, when a John Mangum witnessed the will of John Spratley.(5) We know that it was not John the immigrant. The signatures of John the immigrant showed that he was illiterate, signing all his records with an 'X' or a '+'. The John who witnessed this Surry will signed it John C. Mangum without a mark. We believe he was son of the immigrant John Mangum because he seemed to be of that age group. He resided in Surry County and died there in 1744.(6) His estate was administered by Olive Mangum who later was godparent to several children born in the Albemarle Parish. Olive also witnessed a will by John Richardson in 1747.(7) Interestingly enough, John and Olive never recorded any of their children in the parish records. We therefore have no direct record of any of their children. However, in 1747 the Parish Church wardens "bond out a guardian for the orphans of John Mangum."(8) This must have been John Jr., not John the immigrant who died in 1737. Olive seemed to have been the daughter of Robert Savidge who made his will in Surry in 1697.(9) In his will Robert mentions his daughter, Olive, along with sons Charles and Loveless. In 1728, Loveless made his will in Surry County and mentions Olive Mangum but he does not mention the relationship.(10) We suspect that the four children Olive was godparent to in the parish were her grandchildren through her daughters. They were John and Selah, son and daughter of Wm. Huler (Hulen?) and wife Selah, Elizabeth dau. of Robert Purrier and wife Frances, and Zilpah, son of Arthur Richardson and wife Mary. Recent research has suggested that John Mangum Jr. was the father of that John Mangum who was born 1732 and moved with his family to Mecklenburg County, Virginia. John of Mecklenburg County was the father of John Mangum, born 1763, who served as a patriot in the Revolutionary War. Previous lineages had placed 1732 John as a son of William Mangum Sr. of the 1748 Virginia to North Carolina migration. See insert below. James Mangum: James, possible son of John the Immigrant, was probably born about 1706. He, like his brother William Sr., recorded the births of some of his children in the Albemarle Parish records beginning in 1741/2. He was married to Mary. It seems that many of these early Mangums were attracted to women named Mary, but then again, Mary was a very common name. James left his will 29 Nov. 1782 in Sussex County; Virginia, naming several children including Absolom Mangum. (I I) Absolom migrated into N.C. about 1783.(12) This was about 35 years after his uncle, William Mangum Sr., made the pioneering journey. Henry Mangum: Henry Mangum may have been a son of John the immigrant. He was a member of the Mill Swamp Baptist Church of Isle of Wight County, Virginia. He apparently left the main line of the Church of England (Episcopalian) to join with the then minor sect of Baptists. The births of his children (and only his children) were recorded in the Church minutes. They began with Cathron, born 20 Sept. 1746 and end with Goodrich b. 17 March 1768.(14) Henry Mangum Jr. was born 25 April 1753. Henry Sr. left his will in Isle of Wight County, Virginia dated 17 Nov. 1790.(15) He names his children but not his wife. He may have been married to Constance or Agnes, both mentioned in the church records.(16) Henry's descendants, through Henry Jr., contributed much to the Mangum saga. Henry Jr. was a Revolutionary War soldier, as were probably one or more of his sons. Henry Jr. resided in Greensville & Brunswick Counties, Virginia. The family moved to Maury County, Tennessee in the early 1800's, leaving many descendants.(17) William Mangum Sr.: William Mangum Sr. was born about 1709 because he began recording some of his children's births in the Albemarle Parish in 1734. See the next chapter for more detailed information on William Sr. [See his file in this database for the referenced chapter transcription.] References 1. See Appendix E for information about The Albemarle Parish. 2. Surry Co., Va. Unverified information from researcher Timothy Mangham. 3. Surry County, Va. Deeds, Wills, Etc. #5, 1694-1709, page 163. 4. Isle of Wight Co., Va., Wills, Accounts, 1733-45, page 189-90, dated 26 Sept. 1737. See chapter 3, page 27 (Frances Mangum) for further discussion of John Mangum's death. 5. Surry Co., Va. will book 7, page 867 6. Surry Co., Va., Wills, Etc., 1738-1754, page 486 dated Aug. 1744. Olive Mangum Adminix. 7. Will of John Richardson, Surry Co., Va. Will Bk. 9, page 561. Will recorded 20 Oct. 1747. 8. Research by Mrs. Joann Hoagland described in a letter to John Palmer, 17 July 1991. 9. Surry Co., Va. Will Book 5, page 55, probated 3 May 1698. 10. Surry Co., Va. Will book 7, page 943. 11. Sussex Co., Va., Will Book D, 1782-1789, probated 17 June 1784. 12. See Mangum Family Bulletin, issue 15 page 17 and issue 20 page 8. 13. Delta Ivey Mangum Hale, John Mangum, Revolutionary Soldier and Descendants. Her book is described in the Bibliography. 14. A copy of the church records (1 page) can be obtained from the Virginia State Library in Richmond, Va. 15. Isle of Wight Co., Va., Will Book 10, page 323, 1783-96. 16. One theory is that Agnes was a daughter of John Mangum, the immigrant, and sister of Henry Mangum Sr. Research by the Langston family shows that there was an Agness Mangum, born 1712, who married a John Langston. 17. For more information on Henry and his family, see the Mangum Family bulletin, issue 7, page 32 and issue 36, page 7. 2. Land citations at Pigeon Swamp; Pigeon Swamp is just west of Waverly, Sussex, Virginia at long. -77.149W and lat. 37.024N southwest of state highway 460, northeast of county road 625, and west of county road 626. The deed is part of Surry County records; however, Sussex County fully incorporates the old Albemarle Parish of Surry and was made a county in 1753. Sussex County line separating it from Surry is the Blackwater River.] A. Per website http://home.inu.net/sadie/index.htm for father John Magnum. See his notes for full and lengthy text of wills, deeds, bio. info, and misc. info which includes mention of this individual. "John, Born Albemarle Parish, Surry, Va. circa 1694, Died: Abt 1744 (Inventory) Surry Co., Va.(M) Olive Savage (Admx. of his estate)." References: 17th Century Isle of Wight, (Boddie); Virginia Historical Families (Boddie); Southside Virginia Families (Boddie); Isle of Wight Co.,Va Deeds (Hopkins); Surry Co., Va Deeds & Crt. Orders (Hopkins); Isle of Wight Deeds (Eliza T. Davis); Surry Co. Deeds & Wills, (Davis); Wills & Adms. IOW Co. (Chapman); Cavaliers & Pioneers, Vols I & II (Nugent); LDS Records. Some citations: a. "Oct. 6, 1728- Will of Loveliss Savage: names Dtr. Olive Manggam, a pewter dish, etc. Wts: John Cofer, James Bennett, Anth. Evans." b. "Surry Co., Va. records, Cont'd:" i. "Feb. 16, 1743 John Mangum of Pigeon Swamp & wife Sarah (sic) Mangum, to Zachariah Madera of same 5 pds. current money, 100 AC Pigeon Swamp b/b John Williams & Wm. Smith Wts: Wm Edwards & John Niolson Sig: John (X) Mangum, Olive (X) Mangum" ii. "Dec. 20, 1744 John Mangum Est by Olive Mangum, Admrx. Signed: Saml. Maget, Robt. Judkins, Barth. Figures." B. From the book "Surry County, Virginia Deed Book 4 (1742-1747)," by T.L.C. Genealogy, P.O. Box 403369, Miami Beach, FL 33140, copy found in Surry, VA public library: a. "Page 80. Lease and Release. Feb 16, 1743 from John Mangrum of Pigeon Swamp of S, and Olive, his wife, to Zack Madere of same, for 25 ?, about 100 acres on Pidgeon Swamp in S, bounded by Jno Williams, a bottom, said John Mangrum, William Smith. Signed - John (I his mark) Mangham, Olive (O her mark) Mangham. Wit - Wm Edwards, John Nicolson, Recorded Feb 16, 1742." [Note: book indicates that this deed book utilizes the Julian Calendar as opposed to the Gregorian Calendar in use since 1752. In the Julian Calendar, New Year's day occurs Mar 25. We would now recognize this deed's date as 16 Feb 1743.] b. "Page 90. Dec 23, 1742 from Samuel Thompson of S, to William Smith of S, for 8 ?, all that tract of land containing about 100 acres on the south side of Pigeon Swamp in S, and bounded by John Mangurm, Williams, Edward Long, the great Branch. Singed - Samuel Thompson. Wit - John Warren, Rober (+ his mark Davis, Henry Smith, Recorded Feb 16, 1742." [1743 in Gregorian Calendar.]

3. The book "The Mangums of Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Arkansas, Texas, and Utah and Adjoining States," by John T. Palmer, Santa Rosa, 1992, FHL film 1697868, pp. 4-5, issue of John Mangum and Frances Mangum, first Child: " John Mangum, b. ca. 1703, Albemarle Parish, Surry Co., VA, m. Olive Savidge, dau. of Robert Savage. His estate was administered 20 Dec 1744, Surry Co., VA, by Olive Savidge Mangum, m. bef. 6 Oct 1728 who was godparent to four children born in the Albemarle Parish of Surry Co., VA. Parents of these godChildren included William Huler (Hulen) and wife, Selah; Robert Purrier (Pryor/Prior) and wife Frances; and Arthur Richardson and wife, Mary. (See Footnote 15 of this chapter for a strong argument that John Mangum, the Revolutionary War soldier, is probably NOT the son of 1706 - William Mangum and Mary Person.) Foot note 15: Mrs. Joann Mangum Hoagland of 301 24th St., Silver City, NM, tel 505-38-4789, a descendant of John angum b. ca. 1732, wrote the author "I cannot tell you how strongly I feel about this relationship - that is 1732 John is not the son of 1706 William... I have studied carefully the documentation, which is pretty scarce, for placing 1732 John as the son of 1706 William. It just does not hold water... That Albemarle Parish register put me on to this. When the Parish entries are palced in chornological order, we see that 1706 Wm. entires end about 1747-8 when he moved to North Carolina. 1732 John entries begin and go until 1761, jus before he moved to Lunenberg, VA. In 1747-8 when 1706-Wm. moved, 1732 John is a teenager. He would surely have gone with his father to North Carolina. That, in itself, tells me that 1732-John is not the son of 1706-William. Instead, 1732 John stays in Surry-Isle of Wight. Nor does 1732 John seem to align himself with different people, at least on the Albemarle Parish register, than had his supposed father William." Mrs. Hoagland requests that those interested in this relationship write her at the address noted above. She has obviously made a strong agrument that this undocumented relationship is tenuous. By the process of elimination she systematically eliminated Joseph, whose sons are Micajah, Elisha, and Josiah; Nicholas; James, whose sons were all born too late to be 1732 John; and Henry whose sons were also later than her 1732 John. "That leaves us," she wrote, "with 1703-1744 John and wife Olive Savage as 1732 John's parents... I have not proof - process of elimination."

4. Website of Lynn Parham at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lynn.parham/savidge.htm: "We believe John Mangum Jr., son of the immigrant John Mangum, married Olive Savidge. She was apparently a daughter of Robert Savidge of Surry Co., Virginia. In his will of 1697 he names his sons Charles and Lovelis and his daughter Olive. The 1728 will of Loveless Savidge mentions an Olive Manggum. John Mangum Jr. died in 1744 and his estate was administered by Olive Mangum. Olive was a godparent to several children in the Albemarle Parish, Surry Co., Virginia after John's death. We suspect those children were Olive & John's grandchildren. We also suspect that another child was John Mangum (III?) who moved to Mecklenburg Co., Virginia. His son, John, was a Revolutionary War patriot. His descendants were the subject of a book by Mrs. Delta Ivy Mangum Hale." 5. Lynn Parham, editor of the Mangum Journals and a premier Mangum family researcher as of 14 Mar 2005 takes a different approach to the ancestry of the patriot John Mangum then what most LDS family historians use based upon work done years ago by Delta Hale: "The present best thinking of the lineage is John Mangum the immigrant, John Mangum who married Olive Savidge, John Mangum (1734), John Mangum the Patriot (1763) who married Murdock/Goggins/Canida. I'm speaking from memory here, so ignore minor mistakes in birth years. Originally, it was thought that John (1734) was a son of William Mangum Sr., but it is difficult to imagine that he at age 14 would not follow his father to North Carolina. The only other option for his father seems to be John Mangum who married Olive Savidge. I was not the one to do that research but I agree 100% with it. I will give you the details if you wish, which is a letter from Joann Hoagland to John Palmer and is published in his Mangum book. This lineage, of course, is not proven, just the best fit of the available records. I do not have family group sheets of the old Mangums on the web [http://home.comcast.net/~lynn.parham/]. My book ["Pleasant Mangum and All His Kin"], which I described last time, is the best current thinking on those lineages. As to the book lineages, I do not take as gospel those lineage connections that 99.999 percent of all Mangum researchers use in their lineages. They do not even mention that there is severe lack of proof in some of those connections, even if it does sound reasonable. I don't even disagree with most of it but it gnaws my gizzard when the lack of proof is not even mentioned. Then another generation of Mangum researchers take this unproven stuff and again recite it as gospel because all these older and wiser researchers said so."

6. The book "John Mangum, American Revolutionary War Soldier and Descendants," 1986, p. 7-16, by Delta Ivie Mangum Hale with notes in [ ] by myself, Kerry Petersen: "John Mangum [sibling of this individual] was born Jan. 19, 1763 in Mecklenburg County, Virginia. His parents apparently moved to Lunenburg County soon after he was born, as his father, John Mangum, is listed as a member of the St. James Parish, Lunenburg County in the year 1764, the year after John was born. He was the fourth child in a family of six. He had one brother, William, and two sisters, Lucy and Sarah who were older and two brothers William and Lewis who were younger. (The reader may question the fact that the first and fifth children were both named William. It was a practice, especially in England, that when a child died, the next child of that sex would receive the dead child's name.)... [Some authors purport that there was only one William child in this family - John Palmer as cited below notes that the headstone of William Mangum in the Mangum Family Cemetery on the Mangum Plantation in Newberry Co., SC reads 'In memory of William Mangum, Sr. who departed this life the 5th of July 1827 in the 72nd year of his age...' thus establishing a birth date of 1756.] John's father, whose name is also John, was born about 1736 in Albemarle Parish, Surry County, Virginia. His mother's name was Mary. Her maiden name is unknown. His grandfather, William Mangum, was also born in Albemarle Parish, Surry County, Virginia. His grandmother was Mary Person Mangum. [William and Mary Person Mangum as grandparents is since disputed.] His great-grandfather was John Mangum, and his great-grandmother was Francis Bennett Mangum, daughter of Governor Richard Bennett of Virginia. This is as far back as the direct Mangum line in America has been determined at present." [Kerry's note: The ancestor in terms of Governor Richard Bennett is erroneous in my opinion. See notes for Thomas Bennett, Richard Bennett, Sr., and Richard Bennett, Jr. separately in this database for a detailed Bennett history. Even though both groups of Bennetts lived in Isle of Wight County in colonial Virginia, there does not appear to be a connection and both Richards are separate and distinct.]

7. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 50, Oct 2002, (formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"), James L. Parham, editor, pp. 16-20: "This Part 8 [of a series in the Journal] of the old Virginia records delves more deeply into the records of the second John Mangum of Virginia. We believe he was the son of the immigrant John Mangum but as usual we have no definite proof, just good circumstantial evidence. The first record is the petition of Olive Mangum his widow to obtain letters of administration. The second is the actual inventory. The third is the will of John Spratley in which John Mangum and a Sarah Savidge are witnesses. Olive Mangum's maiden name was Savidge, as we believe, and Sarah Savidge is probably a relative of Olive." "COURT ORDER FOR ADMINISTRATION of JohnMangum'S Estate, (Surry County, Virginia Order Book 1741-1744, page 234 and 235. Court date 18 July 1744): 'On the petition of Olive Mangum Widow who made oath according to Law Certificate is granted her for obtaining Letters of Administration of the Estate of her Husband John Mangum decd giving Security on which she together with James [Nickolson] and William Mangum her Securities entered into and Acknowledged their Bond for her due Administration of the said Decedents Estate. Ordered That Samuel Maget, Robert Judkins, Bartholomew Figures and William Owen or any three of them being - being first Sworn before Howell Biggs Gent Do appraise in Current Money the Slaves and personal Estate of John Mangum Deced and return the appraisement to the next Court.'" "Estate of JohnMangum, (Surry County, Virginia Wills, Etc., 1738-1754, Book 9, page 486) [Image on file with Kerry's photo collection. The following was transcribed by myself as well: 'In obedience to the Order of Court held for Surry County this [blank] day of August 1744, we the subscribers being firs sworn by Mr. James Chappel have valued the estate of John Mangum Deced as followeth: 7 head of Cattle 6 Shoates 2 Sows & Eleven Piggs (Horse?) 3 beds and furniture A parcel of pewter A parcel of Shoemaker's tools & casts(?) 1 ??? Sword and Catooch box 2 spits 1 saw and file A parcel of Carpenter's tools A parcel of old Iron and Planters Tools A parcel of Leather Stilliard & bell 1 Wheel and cards & 1 Linen (S.?) Wheel A parcel of lumber Books & Earthen Ware 1 Saddle & Saddle Cloath 4 potts 1 kettle & frying pan 1 Chest & 1 Table & a parcel of flax 1 pasnet(?) & 1 Sun Dial one Sow and Seven Shoates 2 Cyder Casks 1 Jugg 1 Grindstone [Signed] Olive Mangum Administx. At a Court held for Surry County the 20th Day of December 1744, the within inventory and appraisement of the Estate of John Mangum Deced was returned and by the Court ordered to be recorded. Teste. Aug. Claiborne, Clk.']" "Will of JohnSPRATLEY, Surry County, Virginia WB7, 1715-39 p 867. Image from microfilm. Surry County, Virginia WB7, 1715-39 p 867. Text taken from a Rootsweb Internet posting by Sue Perrault. See : 'I give all my Estate that I have in Jame Citty County be it in what (?) Quality whatsoever to be Equally divided between my three Grand children Wm, Jno and Eliza SPRATLEY and Mary SAUNDERS Daughter of Mr Robert SAUNDERS of Wmsburgh only excepting two cows and calves that I give to Mary the wife of Thomas HUSE and my young horse that I give to my Wife. I give and bequeath to my grandson John SPRATLEY all the land that I have in Surry County after the death of my wife to him and his heirs for ever and if he shall live to the age of eighteen years he shall have liberty to take into his possession one of my plantations which my wife pleases to lett him have. I give to my granson John SPRATTLEY my Negro Woman Sarah and her increase to him and his heirs forever after the death of my wife. I give forty pounds current money and order my Exs. to buy two young negroes with that money and the said Negroes to remain in the possession of my Exs. untill my Granson John SPRATTLEY comes to age and if the said Negroes be then living to be delivered to my (chief?) Granson John SPRATTLEY and all the money that can be made of the stock that will be raised on that plantation whereon Wm Proctor now Liveth. Desire it may be in the hands of his Mother and to be disposed of in Schooling of my said Granson John SPRATTLEY. I give to my Grandaughter Elizabeth SPRATTLEY a Negro woman named Bess to her and her heirs after the death of my wife and her increase for ever. I give the labour of all my Negroes to my Loveing wife Phillis during her natural live. I give to my daughter in law Mary(COCKE)SPRATTLEY five pounds. I give to Thomas Huse forty shill. to buy him a ring. I give to my kinsman Mr. Robt SAUNDERS forty shillings. I give to my Granson John SPRATTLEY my silver headed cane. I give to my daughter in law Mary SPRATTLEY fourteen pound that her husband John SPRATTLEY had (?) what I am indebted to Maj. BLAIR. She must pay out of the aforesaid debt. I desire that my three Negroes Robin Cuffey and Nan be sold after the death of my wife for money and that money to be equally divided between my two Gransons Wm and John SPRATTLEY. I give to my Loveing wife Phillis all the rest of my estate be it in what nature of quallity what so ever after my Just debts are paid dureing her natural life. I do appoint my loving wife Phillis and Nicho. MAGET my joynt Exo and Executor of this my last will revoking all former wills unto which I have hereunto sett my hand and seale this 28th day of Aprill 1728. Wit: John MANGGUM, Sarah SAVIDGE, Thos. Francis Probated Oct. 16, 1728 The inventory of the Estate of John SPRATLEY, taken by Phillis SPRATLEY and Nicholas MAGET mentions "Cash in the house L5. 40, Ditto in England L60. A parcel old lumber at the plantation of John Spratley Jun. decd in James Citty County." taken December 18, 1728.'" EDITOR'S Comments: Olive Mangum, widow of John Mangum deceased, petitioned the court and obtained letters of Administration for John's estate on 18 July 1744. This record leaves no doubt that Olive was indeed wife of John Mangum. It is very interesting that one of the securities for Olive is William Mangum. It has long been assumed (but not proven) that the William Mangum who migrated to North Carolina in 1748 was son of John Mangum the immigrant. If this is the same William Mangum, which seems very likely, then we assume that William was a brother of the deceased John Mangum (Jr.?). John Mangum's estate was appraised by Samuel Magit, Robert Jurkins and Bartholomew Figures in August of 1744. The actual day is not recorded. The Administrator (Adminisx) was Olive Mangum. The inventory was returned to court 20 December of 1744. The total value was 25 pounds, 12 shillings and 12? pence. Present value of an English Pound is about $1.65. In 1744 a pound was worth considerably more, but it is difficult to translate currency value from that era into modern currency. Although the court order was to appraise the slaves and estate of John Mangum, there does not appear to be any slaves listed in the appraisement. We still have not proven that this John Mangum and the North Carolina migrant William Mangum were truly sons of the immigrant John Mangum and wife Frances. However, that seems to be the most likely theory at present. We learn from other records (published in the previous Journal) that Lovelis Savidge had a daughter named Olive Mangum (Ollife Manggam), and Lovelis also had a sister named Olive. The preponderance of evidence here is that this Olive Mangum of the 1744 inventory of estate of John Mangum was Olive, daughter of Lovelis Savidge. The John Mangum (Manggum) who witnessed the will of John Spratley is obviously the younger John Mangum who married Olive Savidge. Sarah Savidge is also a witness. We don't know her relationship to John, but she was probably kin to him through his wife Olive Savidge. We don't know the date of John's marriage to Olive, so this Sarah Savidge who signed the 1728 will may be a future in-law instead of a present one. We also do not know the relationship of John Mangum and the Spratley family, but I suspect there is some intermarriage between the Savidges and the Spratleys. The main value of this Spratley will lies in the signature of John Mangum. He actually signs the will as 'John C. Manggum'. Unless the clerk who recorded the will made a mistake, John actually signed his name rather than making the "C" as his mark. The inference is that John was literate. His "father" John Mangum the immigrant, being illiterate, could only make a mark for his signature... [Note in the next issue of the Journal, the editor corrects his comment regarding the "C." as a middle initial - apparently the C was only a flourish at the end of John typical of several other places in the same document.] Do not consider the signature of John Manggum to be his actual handwriting. The entire will, including all signatures, are in the same handwriting, meaning that the handwriting is that of the clerk who recorded the will, not the individual signers."

8. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 51, January 2003, (formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"), James L. Parham, editor, pp. 13-15, article includes scanned images of the actual documents: This Part 9 [of a series in the Journal] of the old Virginia records continues to delve more deeply into the records of the second John Mangum (II) of Virginia and continues into some of John II's siblings. We, of course, have no absolute proof that these Mangums were children of John Mangum the immigrant, but that is the most reasonable theory at present. "INDENTURE of LEASE & RELEASE Between John& Olive Mangum and ZACHARIAH MADERE, (Surry County, Virginia Order Book 1741-1744, page 87. Court date 16 Feb. 1742): 'Indentures of Lease & Release between John Mangum and Olive his wife of the one part and Zachariah Madere of the other part were acknowledged by the sd [said] John and Olive and by the Court Ordered to be recorded previous to which the sd Olive was privily Examined as the Law Directs.' (EDITOR'S NOTE: Appears to be related to land dealings between the Mangums and Mr. Madere.) (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record above is an indenture of Lease and Release between John Mangum (& Olive his wife) and Zachariah Madere. It is apparently related to land sales between the parties. This record is significant in that it specifically calls Olive the wife of John Mangum.)" "Thomas JONES AGAINST Samuel Mangum (DEFENDANT), (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1744-1749 Court, page 24, 20 Feb. 1744/5): 'Thomas Jones, Plt, Against Samuel Mangum, Deft. In Debt. This Day came as well the Plt by his attorney as the Deft in his Proper Person And the sd Deft. Saith That he cannot gainsay the Plts Action [1702]? But that he oweth the Debt in the Declaration mentioned amounting to Eight Pounds Six shillings Therefore it is considered that the Plt recover the same against the sd Deft. Together with his Cofts? By him in this behalf Expended and the sd Deft in Mercy & ?' (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record above concerns a debt by Samuel Mangum. We believe this is the Samuel Mangum that appears in the North Carolina records with William Mangum (Sr.) as early as 1751. It is obvious that Samuel was an adult in Feb. 1745. The date "20 Feb. 1744/45" is actually 1745 as we reckon the date in modern times. Apparently Samuel, and William Sr. and others of the family had quite a few debt problems in Virginia. This may have been the incentive to move to North Carolina in the latter part of the 1740s.)" William Mangum ON JURY FOR ASSAULT & BATTERY CASE, (Surry County, Virginia Orders 1744-1749, Page 70, 18 July, 1745 Court). (EDITOR'S NOTE: The text of this court suit is not pertinent to Mangum genealogy, except for possibly the Jurors who may figure in other Mangum records. They are Bartholomew Figures, Thomas Washington, Robert Nicholson, William Gillain, Benjamin Jordan, William Owen, John Jeby?, William Mangum, Charles Lucas, John Nicholson, Henry Collier, gr? Thomas Gray.) (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record above concerns an assault and battery case in which William Mangum was one of the jurors. This only shows that William was still in Virginia in July 1745 and had not yet migrated to North Carolina.)" William Mangum ON GRAND JURY, (Jury of Grand, Surry County, VA Orders, 1741-1744, page 184, 16 Nov. 1743): 'Lewis Delany Forman, Richard Jones, John Justice, Joseph Delk, William Newsum Junr?, Thomas Davidson, William Evans, William Mangum, Thomas Washington, William Clinch, Peter Hawthorn, Henry Mitchell, Thomas Vines, John Goodwyn, Silvanus? Stokes, Stephen Hamblin & James Price were Sworn a Jury of Grand their charge withdrew And Soon after returned into Court and made the following presentments: ag? John Edmunds for not going to Church. The overseer of the road from Blands Road to the Bowling Ally Road for not keeping it in Sufficient repair. Judith Pitts for having two Bastard children at birth Mary Green for having a Bastard child - - - - and then having no other matter before them were by the Court discharged.' (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record above concerns a Grand Jury session in which William Mangum was one of the jurors. It shows that William was in Virginia in 1743. It also has some interesting indictments that you might want to read.)" Olive Mangum ADMINISTRATOR of JohnMangum'S Estate, (Surry County, Virginia Orders 1744-1749, Page 58, June Court, 1745): 'On the Petition of James Nicholson and William Mangum Thereby Sitting forth That they the sd Peititioners became bound to this Court as Securities of Olive Mangum for her due - - Administration of the Estate of John Mangum deced and apprehending themselves to be in Imminent Danger of being Demnified Prayed relief in the Premisses Where upon after hearing as well the sd Petitioners as the sd Olive It is ordered and Decreed That the sd Olive Deliver up the sd Estate to the sd Petitioners or give them good and sufficient security to Indemnific them in the premises.' (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record concerns Olive Mangum as administrator of John Mangum (II)'s estate. It appears that her securities, William Mangum and James Nicholson, were about to be out some money because of some irregularities in Olive's handling of John Mangum's estate. The court ordered Olive to release the estate to the petitioners or give them enough security (money or property probably) to cover the impending liability on James Nicholson & William Mangum. We believe, by circumstantial evidence, that John Mangum (II) (the deceased) was a son of John Mangum(I) the immigrant, and William Mangum was John (II)'s brother.)" ORPHans of JohnMangum, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1744-1749, page 323, 16 June 1747 Court): 'Ordered That the Church Warden of Albemarle Parish bond out the Orphans of John Mangum according to Law.' (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record concerns the Orphans of John Mangum. This shows that John Mangum (II) had children and they or at least some of them were minors in 1747. Oh, how do we wish they had been named! ED.)" COURT SUIT AGAINST JohnMangum DISMISSED, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751, Page 147, 16 Oct. 1750 Court): 'Judith Binns Execowr? of Charles Binns gent Deced Plt (In Law) against John Mangum Deft. Ordered that this Suit abate by the Deft's Death.' (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record concerns some type of court suit against John Mangum (II). The suit was dismissed because John had died.)"

9. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 53, January 2004, (formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"), James L. Parham, editor, pp. 21-25, [article includes scanned images of the actual documents]: "Below we have a few more of the old Virginia Records relating to William Mangum (Sr.) and other children of John Mangum the immigrant. Summary There is nothing of major importance in these records, but they do show the continuing presence in Virginia of two sons of John the immigrant (William Sr. & James) and a son of William Sr. (Samuel) [Kerry's note: is this correct - should this be Samuel, the brother to William Sr. and James?]. William's appraisal of Arthur Sherrod's estate in 1747 was very close to the time he and his family moved on to North Carolina. The suit of Judith Binns against John Mangum was dismissed because John had died. This was obviously the younger John Mangum (John Jr.?), husband to Olive Savidge. John had died in 1744. For some reason, in one record, the court was asked to rule on the ages of various young negroes. I assume these were slaves. I have no idea why the court would be involved. Possibly it had to do with taxes. The page had several cases in which the court ruled on the ages of various negroes. (EDITOR'S NOTE: My apologies for not being politically correct here. I have tried to use the original terminology for accuracy.) Obviously James Mangum had at least one slave. James' will in 1783 named several slaves. The suit of Herod Clany vs Agness Washington is a holdover from last issue [of the Journal] where there were several court records of Samuel Mangum against Agnes Washington. JohnELLIS AGAINST AMOS NEWSOM, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1744-1749 Court, page 70, 18 July 1745): The text of the court suit is not relevant to Mangum genealogy except for the fact that William Mangum was one of the jurors. COURT ORDER FOR APPRAISING ARTHUR SHERROD'S Estate, (Surry County, Virginia Orders 1744-1749, page 313. Surry Court 16 June. 1747); APPRAISAL of ARTHUR SHERROD'S Estate, (Surry Co. Deeds Wills, Etc. 1738-1754, page 559, BK 9. 21 July 1747): 'Ordered That Augustine Hargrove, Charles Holt, John White & William Mangum or any Three of them being first Sworn Do appraise in Current Money the slaves and Personal Estate of Arthur Sherrod Deceased, and return the appraisment to the next Court.' The wording of the inventory is not significant to Mangum genealogy, except for the signature of Wm Mangum. This is not his handwriting however since all the handwriting, including the signatures, are of the clerk who recorded it. James Mangum ON A JURY, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751 Court, page 563, 20 June. 1749). The text of the court suit between Nicholas Maggett and Samuel Maggett against the widow Ann Maggett is not relevant to Mangum genealogy except for James Mangum being on the jury. JUDITH BINNS AGAINST JohnMangum, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751 Court, page 147, 16 Oct. 1750): 'Judith Binns Exec_s Vis? Of Charles Binns Gent Dece'd Plt) Against John Mangum, Deft.' NEGRO of James Mangum, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751 Court, page 20, 17 Oct. 1749): 'Dinah a negroe Girl belonging to James Mangum was by the Court adjudged to be eleven Years old.' James Mangum VS Thomas ELDRIDGE I, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751 Court, page 106, 19 June 1750: 'James Mangum, Plt Agt Thomas Eldridge gent adm Vis of Thomas King Dec'd Deft. This Day came the Plt by his attorney and the Deft being arrested and now called in? of appearing by means where of the ___ - main thereof against him and? Defended therefore it [is ] ___ ordered by the Court that the Plt recover against the said Deft his damages by him sustained by occasion of the ____ to be ascertained by a jury at the next court.' James Mangum VS Thomas ELDRIDGE II, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751 Court, page 225, Date 1751??): 'James Mangum Plt . Vs. Thomas Eldridge Admins Vis? Of Thomas King dec'd Deft. Conditional order confirmed (conformed) same form as Hamlin ag't Mooring page 22A. (EDITOR'S NOTE: The case on page 22A was not copied but I assume this case was settled in the same way as the case of Hamlin against Mooring.)' HEROD CLANY VS AgnesS Washington RE Samuel Mangum, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751 Court, page 216, 21 May 1751): 'Upon the motion of Herod Clany a witness for Agness Washington at the Suit of Samuel Mangum It is order'd that she pay him four hundred & ____ pounds of Natl? Tobo [Tobacco] for two days attendance at this Court and for coming ___ a Sixty Miles & returning according to law.' "

10. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 47, Jan. 2002, (formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"), James L. Parham, editor, pp. 22-28, article includes scanned images of the actual documents. The editor notes: "This Part 5 [of a series in the Journal] contains more records attributed to the supposed original immigrant, John Mangum in 18th century Isle of Wight County, Virginia. The first record is a will by John Parsons from Isle of Wight County dated 1707. John Mangum is listed as a witness, but there are no indications that John Mangum was anything more than an acquaintance or friend of the family. John signs the will with an "+", indicating that he was illiterate. Figure 1 Will of John Parsons, 20th of October 1707, Isle of Wight County, Virginia, Will & Deed Book 2, page 662. The text of the will does not seem to be relative to our research. However, note that John Mangum is one of the witnesses. John's signature is enlarged in the inset block. He signs with a "+" mark. The next two records are wills of Richard Bennett Sr. and Jr. The will of Richard Bennett Sr. was on two separate pages but the image here combines these two pages into one image. Note that John Mangum signs his name with an "X", which is little different than the previous "+" of the Parson will. We may reasonably assume that the John Mangum of the Parson will and the John Mangum of the Bennett will are the same. In fact, all the wills are probably in the handwriting of the clerk that recorded the wills. Look close at the handwriting of each will, and the signatures of the testator and witnesses. It appears that all are the same, indicating that these documents are all in the handwriting of the clerk. Note that a John Mangum also is given two head of cattle in the will of Richard Bennett Sr. It is a little unusual for a legatee of the will to also be a witness to the will, but we assume that both John Mangums are the same. No effort was made to differentiate between the two in the will. The text of the will of Richard Bennett Jr. was all on one page (except the court minutes), but the page has suffered damage and part of the text is missing. Mr. Vaughn Ballard made the transcription and he attempted to add the missing text by interpolation and flow of thought from the surrounding text. Will of Richard Bennett Sr. (Isle of Wight County, Virginia, Record of Wills, Etc., Vol. 2, 1661-1719, page 514, dated 4 Dec. 1709). Text of Will of Richard Bennett Sr. (Isle of Wight County, Record of Wills, Etc., Vol 2, 1661-1719, Pg. 514.) Note: This translation (& footnotes) is by Vaughn Ballard, 2320 Country Green lane, Arlington, Texas, 76011. "In the Name of God Amen. I Rich'd Bennett Sen'r now being in perfect mind & Memory Blessed be the Lord for it I Do appoint this for to be my last will & Testament, Disannulling & making void all former wills by me made. I bequeath my Soul to almighty God what gave it me & my Body to the Earth for to be Decently buried at the Discression of my Loving wife & Debts I owe to be paid & my will in forme following- Item I Do give & bequeath to my loving wife Sarah Bennett one Copper still, one gray mare & her increase & one horse and one Negro man named Jack to her Disposeing for Ever. I Do likewise make my loving wife whole and sole exec'et of this my last will & Testament- lem. I do give and bequeath to Mary Throp Daughter of Dan'l Lewis five head of cattle(1)- lem. I do give & bequeath unto John Mangum two head of cattle(2)- Item I do give & bequeath to James Coffield two head of cattle- lem. I do give and bequeath unto my two sons Richard & James Bennett & Sml??(3) Lewis & Martha Lewis the half of the rest of the ___ of my estate there after for to be Equally Divided by these men I have appointed & shall nominate. I Do order that my Standard be divided between my two sons Richard & James Bennett by these four men Tho Throp, Peter Deberry Robt Byskay & George Barlow & for to see this my last will performed- Item I do give and bequeath to my loving wife Sarah Bennett my plantation in Blackwater during her naturalle(4) life & then for to returne to James Bennett son of Rich'd Bennett & the heirs of his body lawfully begotten. I Desire that no Inventory shall be taken nor no Letter of Administration but for all things for to stand as this be nor any Security for to be given in witness my hand this fourth day of December in the year 1709. Testice Tho. Thropp Richard Bennett (Seal)  his William X George mark Mary Cornos  his  John X Mangum mark At a court held for Isle of Wight County y' 20th day of Feb: 17[09]%285%29 This last will & testament of Richard Bennett was presented in Court by Sarah Bennett his said wife Ex:xct who made oath ofto & being proved in Court by the oathes of Wm George Mary Cornos & John Mangum three of the witnesses thereto is admitted to record - Test H. Lightfoot C. Court [Notes]: 1. "Cattle" looks like "Cattelle," but it was probably just that the pen was raised after the "tt" and he made a tall "e" and put a little flourish on the end that looks like an "e". 2. This item is underlined by the editor for emphasis. The underline was not part of the original will. 3. I'm confident that the first letter is an "S." In an abstract of this will, Chapman lists Susanna Lewis as being mentioned in this will. I can't see that here. 4. This word, "naturalle," inserted above and between "her" and "life". 5. Date was off the page, but beginning, 170_, would indicate 1709 (by Julian Calendar) and will was signed in 1709. Comments 1. [n.a.] 2. The will of Richard Bennett Sr. (Isle of Wight, 4 Dec. 1709) has many legatees. One is John Mangum who receives two head of cattle. Surprisingly John is also a witness to the will. It is presently unknown if this is a usual occurrence. John's signature mark is still a "plus" but slanted enough that it looks like an "X". In reality the handwriting is probably the clerk who transcribed the will into his will book and only the general shape of the mark is significant, assuming the clerk tried to copy the mark as faithfully as possible. We cannot be totally sure that both these John Mangums in the will were one and the same. However, we do not know of any other John Mangum in Virginia at this time. The younger John Mangum who appears later, and who we believe is John Jr., was likely born about 1710. There was no attempt to differentiate between the two John Mangums, such as Jr. and Sr., lending support to the theory that they were one and the same.

11. Some clarification of dates of county formations is important. Many people confuse the correct location in dealing with the original colonial ancestors of this part of Virginia. James City County was one of eight original shires designated in 1634. At that time it extended toward the southwest between Charles City and Isle of Wight (then Warrosquyoake), being terminated later by the boundary with North Carolina. South of the James River it was separated from Isle of Wight county by Lawne's Creek and from Charles City County (later Prince George County) by Upper Chippokes Creek. James City was made the capitol of the colony in 1639 by an Act of the Assembly. James City was the original Jamestown founded in 1607, America's earliest English settlement. The part of James City County that became Surry County was inhabited by the Quiyoughcohanocks, allies of the Algonquian Powhatan Confederacy, when Jamestown settlers visited in 1607. Early settlers reported that they were entertained very graciously during their first visit. John Rolfe's marriage to Pocohontas in 1614 helped to keep peace between Indians and English settlers for a time. Pocohontas died in England in 1616, however, and by 1622 the Powhatans had decided to rid their lands of the English settlers. On Good Friday, 11 April 1622, Indians living in English settlements all over the small colony rose up and attacked their English hosts, murdering and mutilating them in their homes. At Pace's Pains on the south shore of the James, one Indian, a Christian named Chanco, refused to murder Richard Pace, warning him of the impending massacre instead. Three hundred and forty-seven English people were killed then. A list made the following February showed 1,277 people left alive in the colony. Richard Pace was only one of the settlers on the south shore of James River. In May 1625 The Virginia Company of London listed sixteen settlers in the area that became Surry County. The Virginia Company's development of Virginia did not meet the expectations of the company stockholders or the English government. Sir Francis Wyatt, the last governor under the Virginia Company, became the first crown appointed governor 24 May 1624. The crown honored patents issued by the Company and granted more lands to encourage settlement. Individuals could acquire one headright by paying the transportation cost of one person into the colony. One headright could be exchanged for fifty acres of Virginia land. Soon headrights were being sold, the system became corrupted, and in 1705 the General Assembly attempted to reform it. The 1705 act explicitly stated that individuals could not claim an individual headright more than once or claim headrights for sailors, and land claimants were required to submit sworn statements verifying their headright lists in county courts. By 1640 James City County's population south of James River was sufficient to support a new parish, and Lawne's Creek Parish was established. Lawne's Creek itself was the dividing line between James City County and the later Surry County from the original Isle of Wight County. John Mangum, the original immigrant, had land strattling Lawne's Creek in both Surry and Isle of Wight Counties. Southwark Parish was separated from James City Parish in 1647. County court records begin with 1652, when Surry was formed from the part of James City County that lay southwest of James River. The south end of Surry County eventually is known as Albemarle Parish within Surry County. From 1738 the only Anglican parish in the Sussex County area was Albemarle. Soon afterward Arthur Allen built his Jacobean brick house, now known as Bacon's Castle because it was occupied as a fort or "castle" during Bacon's Rebellion in 1676. Reports to the Bishop of London by the ministers of Lawne's Creek and Southwark parishes in the year 1724 were recorded by Bishop Meade. They were not prosperous parishes. In 1738 Albemarle Parish was created from those parts of Lawne's Creek and Southwark parishes that lay southwest of Blackwater River. The remaining parts of Lawne's Creek and Southwark were united into Southwark Parish. The entire area of Albemarle Parish was incorporated into Sussex County when it was formed from the southwestern end of Surry County in 1754. Sussex County was formed in 1753 from the part of Surry County that was south of the Blackwater River. "Whereas many inconveniencies" attended the inhabitants of the county of Surry, "by reason of the large extent thereof," the General Assembly enacted a law forming Sussex County from the southwestern part of Surry in November 1753. The boundaries of Sussex County followed those of Albemarle Parish established in 1738. Part of Surry County had been added to Brunswick County in 1732. Thus the parish and county were bounded by Surry County on the northeast, by Southampton County on the southeast, Prince George County on the northwest and Brunswick County on the southwest. Brunswick County was divided by an Act of the Assembly in October 1780, forming Greensville County, which now borders Sussex on the southwest.  Sussex, Virginia, is the county seat of Sussex County. The Dillard House, built in 1802, was the repository of the clerk's records until the courthouse was built. The county is named for Sussex County in England. In some early records of Surry County before Sussex was formed, we see mention of Upper and Lower Parishes of Surry County. I assume the Lower Parish is what was eventually called Albemarle Parish of Surry, then Sussex County. We know that the Mangums had land transactions in Pigeon Creek in the 1740s and Hornet Swamp in the 1760s. Both of these areas were south of the Blackwater River in what was Albemarle Parish of Surry or Sussex County depending on the County formation dates as explained above. Some of the Mangums eventually end up in Lunenburg County, Virginia, which in turns splits the southern part of its Cumberland Parish off in 1761 to form St. James Parish, which in turn and in entirety becomes Mecklenburg County in 1764-65. Brunswick County separates Sussex County from Mecklenburg County to the west. These counties are just above the state line from North Carolina. Some people erroneously put down Albemarle County which is a county in Northern Virginia in no way associated with our family of these Southern Virginia locations.

12. "Mangum Family Bulletin," Four part article in vol. numbers 27-30, Jan. 1986, Apr. 1986, July 1987, Oct. 1987, editor James L. Parham: "Mangum Origins - The Bennett Connection," by James L. Parham. [Notes by myself, Kerry Petersen, are in brackets.] "Introduction My first attempt to resolve the question of Mangum origins was in December 1969 when I published an article on John Mangum of early Virginia (issue 4, MFB). Please review that earlier article for background information. There have been further developments since then, some (but not many) new records and a lot of thought & debate. In this article I will try to present all that is known about Mangum origins with emphasis on John Mangum of early Virginia and the Bennett family he was connected with. This has been a very difficult article to write. It is long, the records are sparse and there is much disagreement about what the records mean. Please be careful about using the theories that I present. They are not to be taken as actual fact without proof. I will try to cover dissenting opinions, but this article will, of necessity, be biased in favor of my theories and beliefs. I welcome and encourage different theories and will offer to print any such received. Because of the length of this article it will be published in several parts. I will try to finish it before the end of the year. Please be forewarned that the problem of Mangum origins will not be solved by this article. In fact, you may be more confused after reading it than before you started. Nevertheless, it will be useful to present the known facts and ask the questions that need to be asked. I will try to make this article as organized as possible. However, you may find that I did not quite succeed at times. I will first present some general history of the Virginia colony and how the Bennett family fits in. I will then present information on the Edward Bennett line which may not be directly related to "our Bennetts." However, there seems to be some tie-in of this line to the Mangums. Next I will present what is known about the Bennett family that was definitely associated with our John Mangum and the details of that tie-in. Delta Ivy Mangum Hale. Mrs. Hale of Utah spent 40 years of research into her Mangum line and the problem of Mangum origins. She hired professional genealogists to make extensive searches of ship passenger lists and other records to uncover Mangum origins. Unfortunately, she found little hard evidence. One family tradition she found seemed to explain why there were no official records of our Mangum immigrant. This tradition states that two brothers in Isle of Man were playing and accidentally broke a window. They ran, hid on a ship and went to sleep. When they awoke they were out to sea on the way to the New World. The likelihood of this story being true is debatable and there are other possible explanations for the lack of Mangums on the passenger lists. One obvious possibility is the fact that many passenger lists were destroyed or lost over the years. Mrs. Hale's book was published in 1971 posthumously. At that time it could be ordered from Mr. Elgie J. Hale, 1040 E. Arlington, Bountiful, Utah. I feel very indebted to Mrs. Hale for the huge amount of work she put into Mangum research. If not for her earlier work then this article could not have been possible. Mangum Beginnings. The only definite evidence of the immigration of a Mangum to the new World was in 1666. In that year a Timothy Mangham was transported to Maryland as a colonist. There is no evidence that this individual left any descendants. There were Mangum families in Maryland during the first census in 1790 but this was over 120 years later. Mangham was one popular spelling of the name Mangum. Few names had "fixed" spellings before the mid-1800's. John Mangum of Virginia appears to have been the first Mangum immigrant to have left surviving descendants. The evidence is not definitive but he appears to have been the father of the several families of Mangums who were in the Albemarle Parish, Sussex & Surry Counties in the early 1700's. He also appears to have been associated with the Bennett family, probably by marriage, of Isle of Wight County. This Bennett family was in Virginia much earlier than the Mangum family, possibly from near the beginning of Virginia itself. We may be in error by trying to assign a single person as "the immigrant ancestor." In fact, there may have been several. Nicholas & Martha Mangum who died in Surry Co, VA in 1757 and 1761 respectively were likely immigrants. They were apparently elderly people, certainly not very young and only their estate records have been found. Jacob Mangum of Richmond County N. C. (ca 1786) and later S. C. may also been an immigrant from Ireland. Others believe he was descended from James Mangum of the 1st VA to N. C. migration. These are only two examples of several possible Mangum immigrants. The Virginia Colony. In 1607 three ships carrying colonists sent by the Virginia Company of London dropped anchor in what is now the James River of Virginia. They built a fort and the settlement that grew up around it became known as Jamestown. This was the first permanent English settlement in North America and the beginning of Virginia. Even though the settlers suffered great hardship in the first years, they managed to survive under the leadership of Capt. John Smith. Tobacco became a commercial crop in 1612 and the marriage of John Rolfe to Pocahontas insured peace with the Indians until her death in 1618. By 1619 plantations were on both sides of the James River and women had also begun arriving in the colony. Also during this year the first representative legislature in the New World, the House of Burgesses, met at Jamestown. The House of Burgesses was a 22 member legislative body together with Sir George Yeardly as Governor and a 6 member council appointed by him. The first Negroes also arrived in the colony. There was an Indian massacre in 1622 but the colony survived. By 1624 Virginia became a royal colony under the direct control of the King rather than a commercial venture. Edward Bennett Family. Edward Bennett of London owned a fleet of ships doing trade with Virginia. He established a large plantation in Virginia in 1621 which was called "Bennetts Welcome." He was not in VA at this time but his brothers Robert & Richard were. Edward must have come to VA by 1627 because he was in the House of Burgesses for that year. One of Edward's daughters was named Silvestra and she is one of two of his heirs mentioned in his will. She was born 25 Oct. 1630 and died 1706. She married Lieut. Col. Nicholas Hill who was also in the House of Burgesses in 1663, 1666. He died in 1675 in Isle of Wight. One daughter of the Hills, Mary, married John Jennings Jr. John made his will in Dec. 1692, probated Dec. 1695. In his will he names mother (in- law?) Silvester Hill. A witness to the probate was Frances Mangum. [This has since been proven by the same author to be an error and Frances was not the signature on the will - see separate note on this subject in Frances Bennett's notes in this database.] This enigmatic reference to Frances Mangum with the Edward Bennett Family raises many questions which cannot be answered at this time. We have found no further reference to a Mangum with this Bennett line. It remains to be seen what significance this has in relation to the Thomas-Richard Bennett line that we usually associate with the Mangums. General References: 1. John Mangum of Early Virginia, Article MFB #4, Dec. 69 2. Southside Virginia Families, Boddie, pp. 57-64 3. 17th Century Isle of Wight, Boddie, pp. 289-304 4. Adventures of Purse & Person 5. Albemarle Parish Register, MFB # 1-4 6. Encyclopedia 7. Nicholas Mangum, Article MFB # 9-12 8. Misc. records from MFB This is the second installment of the Mangum-Bennett article. This article begins with Thomas Bennett who was the first known of the Bennett line who came to America and whose descendants were associated with our immigrant ancestor. Thomas Bennett: The Bennett family that was associated with our apparent immigrant ancestor, John Mangum, was in the New World almost from the beginning. We have not been able to find any definite tie to the Edward Bennett family described last issue other than the Jennings-Mangum record. However, it is very likely that there was some relation. Thomas Bennett was apparently the first Bennett of this particular line to come to the New World. He was a member of the House of Burgesses in 1632 from Warwick County, VA. Unfortunately, the records of Warwick County were destroyed in the Civil War. Thomas's wife was named Alice & she was a widow of Thomas Pierce. She may have married Thomas Bennett about 1624 and was apparently the mother of his only child, Richard. They lived on the south side of the James near Lawnes Creek in 1624. Elizabeth Pierce, daughter of Thomas and Alice pierce(later Alice Bennett), probably married Anthony Barham. Anthony was also a member of the house of Burgesses in 1629-30. His will in 1641 in England mentioned his brother-in-law Richard Bennett and mother Bennett. Thomas Bennett probably died between 1632 and 1641. These are the dates of his House of Burgesses service and the 1641 will of Anthony Barham. Anthony Barham mentions mother Bennett and his Brother-in-law Richard Bennett in his will, but makes no mention of Thomas Bennett. Alice is alive at least until 1642 when she was mentioned in several land dealings. Richard Bennett, Sr.: Richard Bennett Sr. was born about 1625, probably in Virginia. He received land for transporting several people to the colonies in 1638 and 1682. Richard first married Anne who was apparently the mother of his children. He married 2nd Sarah, widow of Daniel Lewis (who died 1679) Sarah married a third time to Robert Lancaster after Richard died. Richard in 1699 resided at Blackwater near a Justinson Cooper and Frances England. He calls himself Elder of Upper Parish of Isle of Wight in a deed sometime after 1682. His known children were Susan who married Daniel Lewis (had daughter Mary Throp), Martha who married a Lewis, Richard Jr. and James. Richard Sr. made his will in isle of Wight 4 Dec. 1709 and it was probated in Feb. 1710. He mentions wife Sarah and John Mangum. A John Mangum was also a witness to the will and gave oath at probate. Sarah Lewis Bennett Lancaster: Sarah Lewis was a widow of Daniel Lewis who died in 1769. She had a son Daniel and a daughter Sarah from that first marriage. She married Richard Bennett Sr. & became a widow a second time when he died in 1709. Her third marriage was to Robert Lancaster. She made her will on 31 Oct. 1722 and it was probated on 29 Jan. 1722?? She had several legatees including Mary & Sarah Mangum, daughters of John Mangum. Richard Bennett, Jr.: Richard Bennett Jr. was the oldest son of Richard Bennett Sr. and wife Anne. We believe he was born about 1650, probably in Isle of Wight. He was given the family plantation in 1699 in Upper Parish Isle of Wight. We do not know the name of his wife. His tentatively identified children were Richard who died intestate in Surry county, VA in 1735, Jane who married John Cofer, Silvester, Ann who married John Bell and James. Richard Bennett Jr. made his will in Isle of Wight 30 March 1720 and it was probated 23 May 1720, He mentions son Richard, Jane Coffer, John Coffer, Rob. & John Coffer, Magdalen Coffer, daughter Silvester, Wm Allen and friends Jn. Carter and James Carter. He also mentions Francis Manggum, calls her granddaughter and leaves her a feather bed and furniture. It should be noted here that Frances Mangum is called granddaughter. This means that she was a daughter of one of the children of Richard Bennett Jr. There are several possibilities, none of which can be proven at present. She may have been a daughter of one of the children mentioned above, she may have been born out of wedlock, she may have been a daughter of an unnamed deceased child of Richard Jr. Also, she may have been the wife of John Mangum or she may have been his daughter, These possibilities and theories will be given further discussion later. This is the third installment of the Mangum-Bennett article. It contains what we know about John Mangum himself and his supposed wife Frances. The final installment will be printed in the next issue. John Mangum of Early Virginia: The earliest records of a Mangum in Virginia refer to a John Mangum. These records date back to about 1695 and maybe earlier. [Tithables records, which were similar to property taxes, that mention John begin in 1692.] These records and the absence of other Mangum records in that period lead us to believe that John Mangum was the father of the Mangum families who were later in the Albemarle Parish, Surry and Sussex Counties shortly after the parish was set up in 1738. The absence of earlier records also indicate that John was an immigrant. These records leave many unanswered questions, but first let us examine the records themselves. John Mangum was born by 1674 [1671]since he was able to purchase land in 1695 [listed as tithables by 1692]. The land was purchased in Surry Co., VA from Richard Bennett Sr. who apparently was a great grandfather of the Frances who was married to John Mangum. In March 1695/6 John trades this 100 acres of land for 90 acres in Isle of Wight. Both tracts must have been near Lawnes Creek which was the dividing line between Surry and Isle of Wight Counties. The Quit Rent of 1704 lists a John Mangum with 100 acres, probably an error for the 90 acres he actually had. John Mangum is mentioned in the will of Richard Bennett Sr. and in the will of Sarah Lancaster, widow of Richard Bennett Sr. John is dead by 1737 since a Frances Mangum is administrator of his estate in that year. It is my guess that we are dealing with two John Mangum here. One John Mangum was mentioned in the will of Richard Bennett Sr., and another John Mangum signed the same will probate as witness. It is not impossible that these were the same person, but I think it is unlikely. I would also guess that the two daughters of John Mangum referred to in Sarah Lancaster's will in 1722 were daughters of the younger John Mangum, not of John the immigrant. If these were daughters of the elder John Mangum, then the other probable children of the elder John were ignored as well as their mother Frances. John Mangum the younger was very likely son of John the immigrant. He was married to Olive Savage and she was administrator to his estate in Isle of Wight in 1744. See previous 1969 article for additional information on this family. Frances Mangum: Frances, supposed wife of John Mangum the immigrant, is one of the major problems that we have to deal with. Most of the controversy centers around her. It appears that she was married to John Mangum by 1695. At least we know that John Mangum had land dealings with Richard Bennett during this period. Frances Mangum is mentioned in the will of Richard Bennett Jr. in 1720 and is called granddaughter. Unfortunately we were given no hint as to who her parents were. The probable children of Richard Bennett Jr. were given in the last installment of the article. Silvester has been mentioned as a possible parent of Frances or a deceased child of Richard Jr. could have been her parent. We may never know. A tie that I would like to make, but just cannot make fit, is that Frances was daughter of Silvester and that the Frances that witnessed the John Jennings Jr.'s probate in 1695 [it has now been determined that it was not Frances Mangum who witnessed the Jennings will and that the signature was misinterpreted] and the Silvester Hill who was mentioned in the will were mother and daughter. Alas, that is not to be. That Silvester appears to be the daughter of Edward Bennett, an entirely different line. Frances was administrator of John Mangum's estate in Isle of Wight in 1737 and we have no further record of her. Using the assumptions above, then Frances likely did not have Bennett as her maiden name. She also could have been born out of wedlock which was not uncommon then. (This is pure speculation!) Others want to believe that her maiden name was Bennett and that also is possible. There may have been a daughter of John & Frances who was named Frances. The elder Frances would be the daughter of Richard Bennett Jr. Some point out that Richard Jr., would more likely leave a feather bed to a young girl just starting out rather than to a mature woman who probably had her own bed. The Frances mentioned in the will would therefore be a young daughter of the mother Frances. In fact, there is only circumstantial evidence that John Mangum married Frances at all. Still, if there was a daughter Frances and a granddaughter Frances, why mention the granddaughter and not the daughter in the will? It is unfortunate that we cannot establish a definite birthday for Richard Jr. This would have a definite influence on the likelihood that the granddaughter Frances of Richard Jr.'s will was either a young girl or a mature married woman. And, if the above is not enough of a problem, then take a look at the deeds of John Mangum, If he was married to Frances or anyone by 1695, then why did not his wife sign any of the deeds where he sold land before 1700? Why is the signature mark on the 1696 deed of John Mangum to George Morrell different from the signature mark when John Mangum signs the will of Richard Bennett Sr. Father and son maybe? Cousins? This is the fourth and last installment of the Mangum-Bennett article. It is mainly a summary of the previous articles plus some of my personal theories. Please send in any new information you may have and/or make any comments you feel that are relevant. Summary: As I promised you, we asked a lot of questions in this article and answered few. To summarize the major questions, I will list a number of them again here. 1. What was the origin of Thomas Bennett ? 2. How was he related to the family of Edward Bennett? 3. How was the Mangums related to Edward Bennett? 4. How did John Mangum get to the New World? 5. Was he the one and only immigrant ancestor? 6. Did he marry Frances, granddaughter of Richard Bennett Jr.? 7. Who were her parents? 8. When did they marry? 9. Why is she not on deeds with John Mangum? 10. Why did she witness the will probate of John Jennings Jr. who married a descendent of Edward Bennett? [Answered: it was not her signature on the will.] 11. Was there another John Mangum clouding up the records? Was he son of John the immigrant? Was he the John that married Olive Savidge? 12. Why was no effort made to separate the two John Mangums in the records? 13. Was there a Frances, daughter of John & Frances Mangum? 14. Why was only two daughters of John Mangum mentioned in the will of Sarah Lancaster? 15. What is the birthdate of Richard Bennett Jr.? There are many more, but you get the idea. If you have any information relating to the above, please send it to me. Personal Theories: I have changed my mind many times over the years about what is going on with these early families. Some of the changes were made while I was writing this article. Below I am going to list my ideas, working hypothesis if you will. Most are pure speculation and should be treated as such. Ordinarily, we should try to stay away from speculation, relying instead on solid facts. Unfortunately, with these early families there are few facts to rely on and speculation is the only thing we have left. Hopefully, this will eventually change. I suspect that if we ever do find enough information to substantiate this line, then there will be many surprises which, although thoroughly logical, are completely unsuspected by present researchers. 1. Thomas Bennett was a relative of Edward Bennett. 2. Most or all the Bennetts in the New World were well known to each other. 3. Frances Mangum, wife of John, witnessed the will probate of John Jennings Jr. because they were kinfolks. [Disregard since Frances Mangum did not in fact sign the will - someone had misinterpreted the writing.] 4. Frances was a daughter of either Silvester Bennett or maybe a deceased child of Richard Bennett Jr. 5. She married John Mangum, immigrant around 1695. 6. One of their sons, John, married Olive Savadge. 7. This son witnessed the will of Richard Bennett Sr. (With father mentioned in the will) and the two daughters mentioned in will of Sarah Lancaster were his. 8. John the immigrant was the father of the several families of Mangums listed in the Albemarle Parish immediately after it was set up in 1738. 9. There were other immigrants beside John but he was the first to leave descendants. General References: 1. John Mangum of Early Virginia, Article MFB #4, Dec. 69 2. Southside Virginia Families, Boddie, pp. 57-64 3. 17th Century Isle of Wight, Boddie, pp. 289-304 4. Adventures of Purse & Person, Author ? 5. Albemarle Parish Register, MFB #1-4 6. Encyclopedias 7. Nicholas Mangum, Article MFB #9-12"

13. Issue No. 4 "Mangum Family Bulletin," Dec. 1969 "JohnMangum of EARLY Virginia," by James L. Parham Foreword This article marks the beginning of a series of articles on the Mangum family. The articles will be concerned with specific individuals or families, migrations or other periods of transition. The purpose of the articles are threefold. First, they will attempt to clarify some of the misconceptions concerning various families or persons, second they will present some of the problem areas needing further research, and third they will begin the difficult task of connecting the various Mangum lineages. Many of the conclusions presented will of necessity be by inference or guesswork and will be subject to change as additional information is gained. Readers should use the data presented a basis for further study and not as actual fact. These articles were begun with some hesitancy since they could result in lineage errors is used unwisely. However, a theory or hypothesis is sometimes a great help to a researcher, whether he is a scientist or a genealogist. So, please use caution! Introduction Most researchers with a Mangum ancestor are naturally curious about the origin of the Mangum family in America. This is true even though they are several generations away from connecting their own lineage to the original immigrant and have no assurance that there is actually a connection. The editor is no exception. Most researchers agree that the first Mangum immigrant came to Virginia shortly before 1700. This is based on the fact that we have found no earlier record of a Mangum in Virginia or any other colony. These early Virginia records concern one or two John Mangums in Isle of Wight and Surry Counties. There has been a great deal of confusion about just what these records mean, with each researcher having his own opinion and basing his opinion on what few records he has. The discussion below will present all records that the editor has been able to obtain and hopefully will clear up some of the confusion concerning these records. JohnMangum of Surry County, Virginia The first records of a John Mangum in the new world begin on 25 May 1695.(2,3)* On this date Richard Bennett Sr. sold 100 acres of land in Surry County, Va. to John Mingham. John is living in Lower Parish, Surry County, and Richard is living in Upper Parish, Isle of Wight County. On the 23rd of March 1695/6, John Mangum sells this land to George Morrell in exchange for 90 acres of land in Isle of Wight County.(4,5) John is still living in Surry County at this time (Lawnes Creek Parish). You will note that the name is spelled Mingham, Mangum and Mangham in these deeds. Such variations were not uncommon in that day. Names were generally spelled by the way they sounded to the clerks and officials that kept the records. On the 4th of May 1696(6) John Mangham was involved in a court suit. Here, the Surry County records concerning John Mangum appear to stop, at least for a time. The records above suggest several probabilities. First, if we assume that John was at least 21 years old when he purchased land from Richard Bennett Sr., then we get a birthdate of 1674 or before. The absence of earlier records suggest that he was an immigrant. In later records, we find that John Mangum was closely associated with the Bennett family. A full discussion of these Bennetts is given in References 1 and 28. Lastly, you would expect the absence of further Surry records of a John Mangum to mean that John either moved or died. Here, the obvious conclusion is that he would move to where he had purchased land, that is, Isle of Wight County. JohnMangum of Isle of Wight County, Virginia In 1704(8) the quit rent of Isle of Wight County lists a John Mangann with 100 acres of land. This is apparently the 90 acres that John bought from George Morrell. The 10 acre discrepancy may possibly be explained by the suggestion that the acreage was given in round figures, but that remains to be seen. In 1707(9) John Mangum witnessed the Will of John Parson, and in 1709(10) he is mentioned in the Will of Richard Bennett Sr. This John Mangum was apparently married to one Frances ___, granddaughter of Richard Bennett Jr. In 1709 John Mangum is mentioned in the Will of Richard Bennett Sr.(10) In 1720(12) Richard Bennett Jr. names Frances Mangum in his Will and calls her granddaughter. In 1737 Frances Mangum signs the inventory of the estate of John Mangum as administrator.(19) It is probable that John Mangum married Frances by 1709 and possibly as early as 1695. This latter date is the date of the deed from Richard Bennett Sr. to John Mingham. We have no clue to the parents of Frances, but Boddie(28) lists the children of Richard Bennett Jr. as Richard, Jane(Cofer), Silvester, Ann(Bell) and James. One of these may have been one of her parents. In 1722(13) Sarah Lancaster, widow of Richard Bennett Sr., names Sarah and Mary Mangum as daughters of John Mangum. Both must have been unmarried at this time. John Mangum left additional records in Isle of Wight(14,17,18) and died in 1737.(19) In summary, it appears that John Mangum was an immigrant and was born in 1674 or before. He originally lived in Surry county, Virginia but later bought land in Isle of Wight County and moved there. He married Frances, granddaughter of Richard Bennett Jr. Since Frances has relatives in Isle of Wight and may have been born there, this may have provided the incentive for John's move to Isle of Wight. The date of their marriage is uncertain, but must have been no later than 1692. It is probable that they had several children. Possibilities include Sarah and Mary* both unmarried in 1722, William of the Albemarle Parish, Surry County, and Nicholas, Henry and John, all of Surry. William, Henry and Nicholas will be dealt with in later articles. This first John died in 1737 and administrator of his estate was Frances Mangum.

• An alternate possibility is that Sarah and Mary and even William were grandchildren of John and Frances. JohnMangum II of Surry County, Virginia By 1728(15) we again have a John Mangum in Surry County. On this date a John Mangum witnessed the Will of John Spratley. It was theorized above that this John was a son of the earlier John. Deeds in 1742 and 1743(20,21) indicate that this John's wife was named Olive. With this in mind, some earlier records concerning the Savidge family assume some importance. In 1697(7) the Will of Robert Savidge names sons Charles and Lovelis and daughter Olive. In 1713(11) the Will of Charles Savidge mentions sons Robert and Lovelis. In 1728(16) the Will of Lovelis Savidge mentions Olive Manggum. It is at least possible that Olive, John's wife, was named Olive Savidge before her marriage and she may have been the daughter of Robert Savidge. However, additional clarification is needed here. In 1744(22) the estate of John Mangum deceased was signed by Olive Mangum as administrator. In 1747(23) Olive witnessed the Will of John Richardson and between 1752 and 1754(24,25,26,27) an Olive Mangum was a godparent to four children born in the Albemarle Parish of Surry County. References (1) Southside Virginia Families, Vol., 1, by John B. Boddie. (2) 25 May 1695 Richard Bennett Sen'r of Upper Parish Isle of Wight County sells to John Mingham of lower Parish, Surry County(Va) 100 acres of land lying in Lower Parish of Surry County adj. land of George Morrell. Surry County Deeds, Etc. 1694-1709, page 50a. (3) 28 May 1695 John Mangham paid as a witness in court. Surry Orders, 1691-1713, page 132. (4)** 23 March 1695/6 George Morell to Jno Mangum of Lawnes Creek parish, Surry County 90 acres of land in Isle of Wight County. Land is swapped for 100 acres which John purchased of Richard Bennett. Isle of Wight County Deed Bk 1, 1688- 1704, page 200. ** This deed is very hard to read. Reference No. 5 indicates that this deed concerned 90 acres, but the deed itself appears to concern only 50 acres. This needs more study. (5) 23 March 1695/6 John Mangham of Lawnes Creek Parish, Surry County, sells to George Morell 100 acres of land in Surry County, purchased of Richard Bennett. Land is sold in consideration of 90 acres to John from George. Recorded 7 March 1698/9. Surry County Deeds, Wills, Etc. No. 5, 1694-1709, page 163. (6) 4 May 1696 Court Suit, John Mangham vs Thomas Durham dismissed. Surry Orders, 1691-1713, page 179. (7) 17 March 1697/8 Will of Robert Savidge names sons Charles and Lovelis and dau. Olive. Probated 3 May 1698. Surry County Bk 5, page 155. (8) 1704 Quit Rent, Isle of Wight Co., VA lists John Mangann with 100 acres. (9) 20 Oct. 1707 John Mangum witnessed the will of John Parson. Isle of Wight Co., Wills and Adm. No. 3, page 88. (10) 4 Dec. 1709 Will of Richard Bennett Sr. mentions John Mangum. Probated 20 Feb. 1710, isle of Wight, Record of Wills, Vol. 2, 1661- 1719, page 514. (11) 17 March 1713 Will of Charles Savidge names sons Robert and Lovelis. Proved 17 Sept. 1718, Surry Co., Bk 7, page 148. (12) 30 March 1720 Will of Richard Bennett Jr. names Granddaughter Frances Manggum. Isle of Wight Co. Deeds, Etc. 1715-1726, page 41. (13) 31 Oct. 1722 Will of Sarah Lancaster names Mary and Sarah Mangum, daughters of John Mangum. Proved 29 Jan. 1722?? Isle of Wight County Deeds, Wills, Etc. 1715-1726, page 125. (14) 28 Aug. 1727 The estate of Thos William appraised by John Mangum, Isle of Wight Co. (15) 28 April 1728 John Mangum witnessed the Will of John Spratley, Will recorded 16 Oct. 1728, Surry Co., Bk 7, page 867. (16) 6 Oct. 1728 Will of Lovelis Savidge names Olive Manggam as a legatee. Surry Co. Bk 7, page 943, Will proved 21 May 1729. (17) 25 Nov. 1728 John Mangum and others (Including Wm Bell) appraised the estate of Thomas Ward, Isle of Wight County. (18) 26 March 1737 Deed by Joseph Mangum mentions gum tree on John Mangum's line. Isle of Wight Co., Deed Bk. 5, page 88. (19) 26 Sept. 1737 The estate of John Mangum, dec'd was appraised. The inventory was signed by Frances Mangum as administrator. Recorded 28 Nov. 1737. Isle of Wight Co. Wills, Accounts, No. 4, 1733-1745, page 189. (20) 16 Feb. 1742 Indenture involving John Mangum and Olive his wife on one part and Zachariah Madere on the other part. Surry Order Bk. 1741-1744, page 87. (21) 16 Feb. 1743 Indenture involving John Mangum and Sarah his wife and Zachariah Madere. Further on in the deed it is John Mangum and Olive his wife. John and Olive sell 100 acres of land lying on Pidgeon Swamp in Surry County. Surry County Deed Bk 4, page 80. (22) Aug. 1744 The inventory of the estate of John Mangum was ordered. Inventory signed by Olive Mangum as administrator. Surry Co., Wills, Etc. 1738-1754, page 436. (23) 20 Oct. 1747 Olive Mangum witnessed the Will of John Richardson. Wit. Samuel Maget. No date, but recorded 20 Oct. 1747. Surry Co., VA. Will Bk 9, p. 561. (24) 26 Jan. 1752 Olave Mangum is godparent at christening of son of Arthur Richardson. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1, (issue 1) page 4. (25) 14 June 1752 Olave Mangum is godparent at christening of daughter of Wm. Hulen. See MFB, Vol. 1, No. 1 (issue 1) page 4. (26) 19 Aug. 1753 Olave Mangum is godparent at christening of daughter of Robt. Purrier. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1 (issue 1) page 4. (27) 19 May 1754 Olave Mangum is godparent at christening of son of Wm. Huler. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1 (issue 10) page 4. (28) Seventeenth Century Isle of Wight, by John B. Boddie. EDITOR'S NOTE: Some of the references and helpful comments were supplied by Mr. Joseph F. Inman, 508 Seneca Rd, Richmond, VA 23226(Genealogist) and Mr. Thomas M. Powell, 606 Highland Ave., Henderson, N. C. 27536. The next planned article will deal with the family of Henry Mangum of Early Virginia.

14. From the book "The Mangum Family," by Dr. J.I. Campbell and C.P. Mangum, p. 1: "Early in the 18th century the family was centerd in Sussex County and adjoining sections of Virginia. William, John, and James Mangum were heads of families and were believed to be brothers." This small book then continues extensive genealogy from Jacob Mangum and his wives Esther Gibson and Nancy Lee. Jacob was born about 1760 and is not on my genealogical database being that he is off a couple of generations from the lines I am researching. Note also that the quoted statement above is incorrect when it says Sussex County because that county was not formed from Surry until the mid-1700s.

15. Unverified children may also include at least Rebeckah.

16. The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal; Issue Number 60, October 2007, by James L. Parham: "Surry County, Virginia COURT Records . (These microfilms were rented from the Salt Lake City library via the local Mormon Church here in Huntsville, AL. I searched these microfilm a few years ago, and just stumbled on them again. They contain some interesting and useful information about the Mangums in Surry County, VA before the 1748 migration into N.C. I took these notes in haste, so the transcription will not be 100% accurate.) A. Surry County Order book, 1691-1713 (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm #0034129): Page 132 - John Mangham having been [summoned] on evidence on behalf of Arthur Davis against Robt Blake and attended two days it is ordered that the said Davis pay him for the [said] according to law with cash at Exam. - Surry Court, Southwark May 28, 1695 Page 175 - Richd Bennett having brought an action to this court agt. Abraham Morris and failing to appear to prosecute, this suit is dismisst. Page 179 - John Mangham having caused Tho Durham to be arrested to this court not having entered a petition the [suit] is therefore [dismisst?] Court May 4, 1697 Page 195 - Upon the request of George Morrell a hafame?? Ionnigauht?? of one hundred acres of land made for the said Morrell by John Mangham draftd the twenty third day of March 1695/6 is admitted for record. 7 March 1698/9. PAGES with Bennett Records (Not Transcribed): 117, 112, 109, 91 (96), 168, 175, 177, 199, 201, 235, 276 B. Surry County Order book, 1713-1718 (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm #0034129): No Mangums - Very short. Bennett Information on pages 91 & 47. C. There Are No Extant Records Between 1718 and 1741 D. Surry County Order book, 1741-1744 (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm #0034129): Page 87 - Indenture of lease and release between John Mangum and Olive his wife of the one part and Zachariah Madere of the other part acknowledged by these John & Olive and by the court ordered to be recorded. Pervious to which the sd Olive was privily examined & as the law directss. E. 16 Feby 1742 [1742/43] Surry Court. Page 184 - Jury of grand, inquest for the body of this county. William Mangum one of the jurors. Returns: John Edmunds for not going to Church; Judith Pitts for having two bastard children at a birth; Mary Green for having a bastard Child; Others. F. Surry Court session 16 Nov. 1743: Page 234 - On the petition of Olive Mangum widow who made oath according to same, certificate is granted her for the obtaining letters of administration of the estate of her husband John Mangum dec'ed giving security on which she together with James Nicholson and William Mangum her securities enters & acknowledges their bond for her due administration of the said decedants estate. Surry Court 18 July 1744. Page 234 - Ordered that Samuel Maget, Robert Judkins, Bartholomew Figures & William Queen or any three of them being -[Continued on page 235] Page 235 - being first sworn before Howell Briggs gent. Do appraise in current money the slaves and personal estate of John Mangum Dec'ed and return the appraisement to the next court. G. Surry County Order book, 1744-1749 (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm # 0034130): Page 13 - An inventory of appraisment of the estate of John Mangum dec'ed was returned and by the court ordered to be recorded. - Surry Court 20th Dec. 1744. Page 24 - Thomas Jones (Plt) against Samuel Mangum (Deft) - In debt. This day came as well the PLT by his attorney as the deft in his proper person and the Sd Defts saith That he cannot gainsay the plts Action nor but that he Oweath the Debt in the Declaration mentioned amountings to Eight pounds, Six shillings. Therefore it is Considered that the plt Recover the same against the Sd Deft. together with his Costs by him in this behalf Eexpended, And the Sd deft. In mercy &c - Surry Court 20 Feb. 1744 [1744/45]. Page 58 - On the petition of James Nicholson and William Mangum thereby sitting forth that they these petitioners became bound to this court as securities of Olive Mangum for the due administration of the estate of John Mangum deced and apprehending themselves to be in imminent danger of being thereby damnified prayed relief in the premisses whereupon after hearing as well that these petitioners as these alive. It is ordered and decreed that these alive deliver up this estate to the petitioners and give them good and sufficient security to indemnify them in the premisses. 19 June 1745. Page 70 - This day came the Plt by his attorney and thereupon came also a jury... Bartholemew Figures, John Jeby??, Thomas Washington, William Mangum, William Gillam, Charles Lucas, Benjamin Jordon, John Nicholson, William Owen, Henry Collier, Thomas Gray, Assault and battery John Ellis Plt versus Amos Newson Def. 18 July 1745. Page 266 - J Adams?? Plt vs Samuel Mangum Carpenter Def. In Debt, 18 Feb. 1746 [1746/47]. The Deft. Being delivered? Not an inhabitant of this county, it is ordered that this suit abate. [Editor's note: Where was Samuel in 1747*? Had he already gone to N.C., or just to a neighboring county to escape his creditors? *Note that in the old dating system the New Year started in March, not January. So, 18 Feb. 1746/47 is 18 Feb. 1747 in our dating system.] Page 313 - Ordered that Augustine Hargrove, Charles Holt, John White, William Mangum, appraise estate of Arthur Sherrod 16 June 1747 Page 323 - Ordered that the Church warden of Albemarle Parish bind out the orphans of John Mangum according to law. Surry Court 16 June 1747. [Editor's note: This was John Mangum Jr., supposed son of the immigrant John Mangum.] Page 387 - The last will and testament of John Richardson dec'ed was presented in court by Elizabeth Richardson, widow and reliect of the said John and executrix therein named who made oath thereto according to law and the same was proved by the oaths of Samuel Maget and Olive Mangum the witnesses thereto and by the court ordered to be recorded on the motion of the said executrex certificate is granted her for obtaining a probate thereof in due form. Surry Court 20 Oct. 1747. Page 415 - John Holt PLT against William Mangum and Charles Clany Defts. (In Debt) Discontinued. The Plt. Failing to prosecute. Surry Court 19 Jan. 1747 [1747/48] [19 Jan. 1748] Page 463 -Attachment obtained by John Ruffin gent. Against estate of William Mangum who have privily removed himself or is absent or that the ordering releif of law cannot be [broed] on him for debt six pounds, - - -teen shillings and two pence. - Surry Court 21 June 1748 [Book says May 1748 Court. It started on page 451, the June 1748 court started page 473] [Editor's Note: William Sr. & family have already gone to N.C.] Page 475 - The attachment obtained by Thomas [Peilfers] against the estate of William Mangum who hath privately removed himself or absconded that the ordinary proofs of same cannot be served on him for a debt of three pounds eight shillings & five pence for ___ due form ... .attach all the effects of same. Surry Court 21 June 1748 [MDCCXLVIII] Page 493 - Debt against Thomas Pritlol against estate of William Mangum - Surry Court 16 Aug. 1748. Page 540 - The petition and summon brought by William Mangum against Joseph Jeffries is dismissed, the Plt failing to prosecute. 18 April 1749. Page 563 - Nicholas Maggott (or Maggett) by Samuel Maggott his ___ friend Plt. Vs. Ann Maggett Widow Def. Suit concerning a slave. On the Jury were Thomas Gillam, James Mangum, others. 20 June 1749 Page 570 - The attachment obtained by Thomas Prillos? Agst the estate of William Mangum the Pre___?? Continued agst the garnishes is now ordered to be discontinued. 21 June 1749 G. Surry County Order book, 1749-1751, (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm # 0034130): Page 20 - Dinah, a negroess____?? Belonging to James Mangum was by the court adjudged to be eleven years old. 17 Oct. 1749 Page 106 - James Mangum Plt vs Thomas Eldridge gent. Adm. Of Thomas King decd (Def.) Undefended, damages to be determined by next court. 19 June 1750. Page 147 - Judith Binns, exec'x of Charles Binns gent. Dec. against John Mangum, ordered that this suit abate by the deft's death. 16 Oct. 1750 Page 155 -Petition and summons brought by Samuel Mangum Plt against Agnis Washington Deft. She is nothing indebted to the Plt, the Plt joins the office? Of the cause is continued till the next court. 16 Oct. 1750. Page 214 - Samuel Mangum Plt vs Agnes Washington Def. 21 May 1751. By petition for 3of? By account, the parties were heard by their attn. The petition was dismissed. The court valued the building the house mentioned in the petition account to 40 shillings and no more. Def. Had paid 30 shillings. Page 216 - Upon the motion of Herod Clany a witness for Agnes Washington in the suit of Samuel Mangum, ordered that she pay him 400 and 5 pounds of nett? Tobo [Tobacco] for the two days attending ... 21 May 1751 Page 225 - Ordered that Joseph Mangum [unclear] appointed survey of the road leading over Clays Bridge. EDITOR'S COMMENT: I don't think I have seen these records published anywhere else before. Only a couple of items stand out to me. One is that it appears that both William Mangum Sr. and his supposed son Samuel Mangum had financial problems before the migration to N.C. about 1748. Maybe those financial problems were one of the incentives for their move. The second item is the statement in the court record (page 266) that shows that Samuel Mangum was not in the County of Surry in 1747, about a year before we believe William Sr. and family moved to N.C. The records also show that William Sr. was still in Surry County on 16 June of 1748 when he appraised the estate of William Sherrod. He was definitely out of the County by 21 June 1748. He may have been gone by 19 Jan. 1748 as one John Holt decided not to prosecute him for a debt, probably realizing it was a waste of time if William had already left the County."

17. 1. Virginia Court actions (1741-1751) mentioning: John Mangum (II), his wife Olive Savidge, and his orphaned Children; his brothers James, William, and Samuel Mangum; and miscellaneous Savages/Savidges. We know that Olive Savidge had brothers Love/Love Jr./Loveliss and Robert since all three are identified in the 1728 will of Loveliss Sr.. The relationship of the other Savages/Savidges - Benjamin, Henry, William and his wife Mary, and John - is undetermined from these documents and further research is needed. (Henry and Loveliss Savidge are named in the same document which would indicate some type of relationship.) From the book "Surry County, Virginia, Court Orders, 1741-1751, An Every Name Index," by T.L.C. Genealogy, PO Box 403369, Miami Beach, FL 33140-1369, 1992, copy in the Walter Cecil Rawls Library in Courtland, Surry, Virginia. Court books are: 1 = 1741-1744; A = 1744-1749; B = 1749 -1751. The second part of the code is the page number and then the month of the court term (in Julian calendar nomenclature). Court books can be seen on FHL films 34129 and 34130 as well as FHL books 975.5562 P2hw (sev. volumes). The following are my brief extractions from the various listed cases: James Mangum: A-563 Jun 1749 James Mangum on a jury. B-020 Oct 1749: Dinah a Negro girl belonging to James Mangum was adjudged to be 8 years old. B-106 Jun 1750: James Mangum Plt. vs. Thomas Eldridge Admr. of Thomas King decd. B-225 May 1751: James Mangum Plt. vs. Thomas Eldridge Admr. of Thomas King decd. John Mangum: 1-087 Feb 1742/3: Indentures between John Mangum with his wife Olive and Zachariah Madere. 1-234 Jul 1744: Widow Olive Mangum obtains adminstration over estate of her deceased husband John Mangum with William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties. 1-235 Jul 1744: Samuel Maget, Robert Judkins, Bartholomew Figures and William Owen swore before Howell Briggs, Gent., to appraise and inventory the slaves and personal estate of John Mangum, decd. A-013 Dec 1744: Inventory of estate of John Mangum returned to Court and ordered to be recorded. A-058 Jun 1745: William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties of Olive Mangum are concerned about their role and petitions to have the estate turned over to them by Olive Mangum concerning the estate of her decd. husband John Mangum. John's Orphans: A-323 Jun 1747: "Ordered that the Church Wardens of Albemarle Parish bind out the orphans of John Mangum according to Law." Olive Mangum: 1-087 Feb 1742/3: Indentures between John Mangum with his wife Olive and Zachariah Madere. A-058 Jun 1745: William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties of Olive Mangum are concerned about their role and petitions to have the estate turned over to them by Olive Mangum concerning the estate of her decd. husband John Mangum. A-387 Oct 1747: Olive Mangum and Samuel Maget are witnesses to the will of John Richardson, decd., presented by Elizabeth Richardson, widow. Widow Olive Mangum 1-234 Jul 1744: Widow Olive Mangum obtains adminstration over estate of her deceased husband John Mangum with William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties. Samuel Mangum: A-024 Feb 1744/5: Samuel Mangum, deft. in lawsuit by Thomas Jones for debt. A-266 Feb 1746/7: Plt. against Samuel Mangum, carpenter, Deft. for debt. Suit abated because Deft. not inhabitant of this County. B-214 May 1751: Samuel Mangum, Plt. vs. Agniss Washington Deft. suing for 30 sh. owed for construction of a building. Deft. won. B-216 May 1751: Herod Clary, a witness for Agness Washington in the suit of Samuel Mangum, motions for payment from Deft. for his two days in court. William Mangum: 1-184 Nov 1743: William Mangum serving on Jury of Grand Inquest. 1-234 Jul 1744: Widow Olive Mangum obtains adminstration over estate of her deceased husband John Mangum with William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties. A-058 Jun 1745: William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties of Olive Mangum are concerned about their role and petitions to have the estate turned over to them by Olive Mangum concerning the estate of her decd. husband John Mangum. A-070 Jul 1745: William Mangum serving on jury. A-313 Jun 1747: William Mangum and three others appointed to appraise the slaves and estate of Arthur Sherrod, decd. A-415 Jan 1747/8: John Holt Plt. vs. William Mangum & Charles Clary Deft.: Debt. A-463 May 1748: Attachment of John Ruffin, Gent., against estate of William Mangum. A Humphrey Bailey also involved. A-475-476 Jun 1748: Attachment of Thomas Pritlaw against estate of William Mangum. Effects are in the hands of Joseph Jeffries, Edmund Barrow, Thomas Bell, and Jonathan Ellis. James Nicolson, William Rogers, and Bufort Pleasant names as additional garnishees. A-493 Aug 1748: Attachment of Thomas Pritlow against estate of William Mangum. Beuford Pleasant also named as a garnishee. A-540 May 1749: William Mangum vs. Joseph Jeffries. A-570 Jun 1749: Thomas Pritloe vs the Estate of William Mangum. Benjamin Savage: A-088 Sep 1745: Benjamin Savage plaintiff vs. Elias George deft. Benj. did not show up and last by default. No type of case given but deft. asked to recover 5 shilling for expenses. A-400 Nov 1747: Benjamin Savage to be paid for plank to repair Cyprus Swamp Bridge. Paid with 271 lbs. of tobacco. Henry Savage: B-203 Apr 1751: Henry Savage, Loveless Savage, James Moore