Elizabeth Nye (Ramell) (1882 - 1963) MP

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Birthplace: Folkestone, Kent, UK
Death: Died in Asbury Park, New Jersey,
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About Elizabeth Nye (Ramell)

Mrs Elizabeth Nye (née Ramell)

Born: Saturday 27th May 1882

  • Age: 29 years
  • Last Residence: in East Orange New Jersey United States
  • 2nd Class passenger
  • First Embarked: Southampton on Wednesday 10th April 1912
  • Ticket No. 29395 , £10 10s
  • Cabin No.: F33
  • Destination: East Orange New Jersey United States
  • Rescued (boat 11)
  • Disembarked Carpathia: New York City on Thursday 18th April 1912
  • Died: Friday 22nd November 1963
  • Cause of Death: Cause Not Disclosed
  • Buried: Kensico Cemetery Valhalla New York United States

Mrs Elizabeth Ramell Nye, 29, was born on 27 May 1882 in Folkestone, Kent, the daughter of Thomas I. Ramell (born 1855), coach builder , and his wife Elizabeth. They lived in Dover Road, Folkestone. Mr Ramell was a Salvation Army bandsman in that town and Elizabeth herself later worked for the Salvation Army in their uniform department of their New York headquarters.

She was first married in Folkestone on 26 December 1904 to Edward Ernest Nye . The couple probably moved to live in New York, about 1909. The only child of the union, Maisie, died at the age of only nine months in 1906 while Edward Nye himself, died aged of 30 on 22 May 1911.

   "Her life has been full of sad and trying experiences. Her first sweetheart was washed off the [Folkestone] Harbour Pier and drowned. She married a few years later, but had the misfortune to lose her two children [sic] by death, and also her husband."
   The Folkestone Herald, 4 May 1912

After a trip to England to visit her parents in 1911-1912 she had been due to return to the United States aboard the Philadelphia but owing to the coal strike in Britain the sailing was cancelled and she was transferred to the Titanic which she boarded at Southampton, travelling in second class (Ticket No.C.A. 29395, £10 10s). During the voyage she shared a cabin (F-33) with Mildred Brown, Selena Rogers Cook, and Amelia Lemore.

Mrs Nye was rescued in lifeboat 11, while waiting for the boat to be lowered. Some reports suggest that she caught baby Frank Aks who was taken from his mother and tossed into the boat, she wrapped baby in a steamer blanket to keep him warm, this woman may in fact have been Argene del Carlo.

While recuperating on board the Carpathia Elizabeth wrote to reassure her parents that she was safe, and to explain the circumstances of her rescue. The letter was later published in the Folkestone Herald. (4 May 1912).


Elizabeth suffered such exposure that she would later required an operation and was awarded $200 by the American Red Cross.

   Case number 343. (English).
   Widow, suffered from exposure, which later necessitated an operation. ($200).

After surviving the sinking, she settled first in New York she later married a Salvation Army Colonel Mr George Darby (3) and together they were instrumental in the organization and support of the Salvation Army in both England and America. Colonel and Elizabeth Darby were the parents of an only son, George Ray Darby (4) who was born 30 March 1915 in New York. Image

Elizabeth Rammell Nye Darby died on 22 November 1963 at Asbury Park, New Jersey, and is interred at Kensico Cemetery (Salvation Army Section) in Valhalla, New York.

Notes:

1. 1881 census lists Thomas Rammell as a "coach painter" living at 6 Folly Cottages, Folkestone, Kent together with his wife Elizabeth (born 1854) and daughter Amy (born 1880). 2. Edward Ernest Nye was born in Stone, Kent in 1880, the son of William Nye (labourer, born 1836) and Anne Luckhurst (born 1837). The 1881 census indicates that at that time he had three sisters and two brothers. 3. Colonel George Darby was born in Canock, England on 23 September 1883, the son of James and Lucy Darby. He died in Asbury Park, New Jersey on 7 May 1968. 4. George Ray Darby married Kathleen James and they lived in Tenafly NJ. The couple had two children. George Ray Darby died on 7 November 1979 and Kathleen died on 8 December 2004.

References:

  • References and Sources
  • The Surrey Advertiser, 20 April 1912, Article
  • The Daily Telegraph, 25 April 1912, Article
  • The War Cry, 27 April 1912, Article
  • The Folkestone Herald, 4 May 1912, Article
  • Unidentified Newspaper (New Jersey), 23 November 1963, Obituary
  • State of New York Certificate and Record of Death (Edward Nye)
  • New Jersey State Department of Health Certificate of Death (Elizabeth Rammell Nye)
  • American Red Cross (1913) Emergency and Relief Booklet (#343)
  • British Census 1881
  • Contract Ticket List, White Star Line 1912 (National Archives, New York; NRAN-21-SDNYCIVCAS-55[279])
  • List or Manifest of Alien Passengers for the United States Immigration Officer At Port Of Arrival (Date: 18th-19th June 1912, Ship: Carpathia) - National Archives, NWCTB 85 T715 Vol 4183

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  • Jack Dalton,UK
  • Phillip Gowan, USA
  • Brian Ticehurst, UK
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Elizabeth Nye's Timeline

1882
May 27, 1882
Folkestone, Kent, UK
1963
November 22, 1963
Age 81
Asbury Park, New Jersey,
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