TRINITY ????? Trinity and Christianity A Triune God in Christianity ???? Does the Bible speak of Trinity ???? Let us see what preachers say and what the Bible says What preachers say I hear Some preachers say that Jesus is the second person in the Triune God .They also use this picture to explain the same. They also go to the extent of emphasising that the Bible clearly speaks of: God the Son, God the Father, and God the Holy Spirit. But emphasizes that there is only ONE God. In fact the Bible does not speak of trinity or triune. The Bible does not also speak of God the Son, God the Father, and God the Holy Spirit in any place. Wherever the Bible makes reference to ‘God the Father’ namely ‘Jehovah’ it clearly mentions ‘God the father’. Wherever the Bible makes reference to the ‘Son of God’ namely ‘Jesus,’ it clearly mentions ‘Son of God’ and not ‘God the son’. Wherever the Bible makes reference to the ‘Holy spirit’ namely ‘The spirit of God Jehovah,’ it clearly mentions ‘Holy spirit’ and not ‘God the spirit’. In fact the Bible has in no place mentioned ‘God the son’ and ‘God the spirit’. Whereas is has in all places mentioned ‘God the Father’. We will go through the details in the brief passage below. So going by the Bible there is one God and that is Jehovah and Jesus and the Holy Spirit cannot be God. I have also heard some preachers preach that the term: "Tri" meaning three, and "Unity" meaning one, Tri+Unity = Trinity. It is a way of acknowledging what the Bible reveals to us about God, that God is yet three "Persons" who have the same essence of deity. Some have tried to give human illustrations for the Trinity, such as H2O being water, ice and steam (all different forms, but all are H2O). Another illustration is an egg having a shell, egg yolk and egg white, but this egg illustration shows that there would be "parts" to God, which isn't the case. These preachers say. God the Son (Jesus) is fully, completely God. God the Father is fully, completely God. And God the Holy Spirit is fully, completely God. Yet there is only one God. I come from a protestant family. I was also a true believer of the trinity when I was a boy. After I grew up my house was an abode to many of the leading evangelists of the 1990s and 2000.. Many have told their own versions which I have promptly discarded as trash but few evangelists have taught so many facts to me from the Bible .. Referring each of their statements to the Bible and making close references with the verses in the Bible. I trusted and believed what these evangelists told me because they were referring to the Bible and not giving their own versions. How wisdom dawned on me One evangelist in particular told me that many Christians did not know the truth because they did not read the Bible. Many Christians were simply lazy and Satan managed to keep them lazy since if they read the Bible they will also come to know the truth because the Bible contains truth in the simplest form of language. He told me that if I had any doubts about what any person or preacher was saying / preaching always refer to the bible and stick to what the Bible says and to rest assured that if there is a stand-off between what the preacher says and what the Bible says the victor will be the Bible. He asked me if I have read Shekspheres works and Tiruvallurs works in poetry (not literature). I said yes. He asked me that if Sheksphere (The great English poet)or Thiruvalluvar (The great Tamil Poet) were alive today and present in person in your college and if the department heads of English and Tamil departments were sitting along with them and if you had a doubt, whom will you get clarification from. I said .. in all probabilities from the original author and not from my head of the department even though he may be a double or triple doctorate. He reverted saying “then why are you asking clarifications to your doubts about the bible verses to me” God is the author of the Bible and the Bible tells us so. If you believe that then you must read the Bible and get any doubts clarified through the Bible. The Bible is written in such simple language that all human beings can understand so read the Bible .. meditate the verses and then if you have any doubts come to me. Based on this I started reading and understanding the Bible. I understood that right from chapter one of Genesis I have been misled by preachers. I learnt from the Bible that it was not one tree which God planted in the middle of the Garden of Eden it was two trees. One was the tree which bore the ‘fruit of life’ and one the ‘fruit of knowledge of good and evil’ Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food, the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. I understood why God accepted Abels offering and why he rejected Cains. I understood why Noah was called the righteous. I understood that god is not a male. I understood Jesus was the first creation of God and it was for him and through him that God created the work. I understood what is predicted in Revelations. I understood that dead people don’t go to heaven but turn into dust in their very place of burial. I understood that Jesus will cleanse this world of sin and hand it over to his father ‘God Jehovah’. I understood many things because they are explained so clearly in simple language in the Bible. I also came to know that there were no words like triune and Trinity, God the son and God the spirit. Now let us examine whether there is trinity and whether God has 3 forms or whether 3 forms constitute a God or whatever is said of Trinity Nowhere in the Bible has Jesus been referred to as “God the Son”. It has always referred to Jesus and “Son of God”. Wherever Jehovah has been referred to he has been referred to as “God the father” The Disciples of Jesus knew that Jesus was the Son of God and not God the son. Simon peter knew that Jesus was not God but the son of God. Matthew 16:16 - Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” The disciple of Jesus Mark knew that Jesus was not God but the son of God. Mark 1:1 - [John the Baptist Prepares the Way] the beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God. Even the impure spirits knew that Jesus was the Son of God and not God the son. The disciple of Jesus, Mark states that the impure spirits knew that Jesus was not God but the son of God. Mark 3:11 - Whenever the impure spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, “You are the Son of God.” The demons knew that Jesus was not God but the son of God. Luke 4:41 - Moreover, demons came out of many people, shouting, “You are the Son of God!” But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew he was the Messiah. Satan himself knew that Jesus was not God but the son of God. Luke 4:3 - The devil said to him, “If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread.” Luke 4:9 - The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down from here. The centurion who was guarding the grave of Jesus knew that Jesus was not God but the son of God. Mark 15:39 - And when the centurion, who stood there in front of Jesus, saw how he died, he said, “Surely this man was the Son of God!” The angel who proclaimed the birth of Jesus knew that Jesus was not God but the son of God. Luke 1:35 - The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God Even Jesus himself said that he is the Gods son or son of God. He never said he is God the son. Jesus never said he is God. In the very words of Jesus, John 10:36 - what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? John 20:31 - But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name. 1 John 4:15 If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God. Saul later known as Paul, after being touched by God and after being with the disciples of Jesus for several days knew and acknowledged that Jesus is the ‘son of God’. He did not at any place say Jesus is ‘God the son’. Acts 9:20 - At once he began to preach in the synagogues that Jesus is the Son of God. Romans 1:4 - and who through the Spirit of holiness was appointed the Son of God in power by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord. Even after ascending to heaven Jesus remained ‘Son of God’ and not ‘God the son’. Hebrews 4:14 - [ Jesus the Great High Priest ] Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.
The Supremacy of the Son of God i.e. Jesus is mentioned as the image of God (and not God) and the firstborn over all creation. When the Bible says first born, It can only mean first creation of God. We have been given our reproductive organs in order to reproduce and this reproduction is called birth and our children are born. God does not have any reproductive organs since he does not need one. He produces by his word. He created the heavens and the earth by his word. Then who is Jesus who is referred as the first born of God the father Jehovah. It simply means that Jesus is the first creation of God the father Jehovah. Colossians 1:15 - The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Some say that after his resurrection he became God. But the bible speaks to the contrary. Luke 22:69 - But from now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the mighty God.” Regarding the writings and language, since the Bible was written by men who were guided by the Holy Spirit. Not a word or phrase could be wrong. According to the Bible there is only one God. Who is the only God? The father of Jesus Christ is the only God. His name is Jehovah. Prophets and People anointed by God like David, Isaiah and many others proclaimed his name as Jehovah. Psalm 83:18 .. That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth. Isaiah 12:2 .. Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. Isaiah 26:4 ..Trust ye in the Lord for ever: for in the Lord Jehovah is everlasting strength: Jehovah himself directly declares that his name is Jehovah. Exodus 6:3 - And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them. The Bible was written in various languages like Aramic, Hebrew and Greek The first human author to write down the biblical record was Moses. He was commanded by God to take on this task, for Exodus 34:27 records God's words to Moses, "Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel." And what language did he use? He wrote in his native language, called Hebrew. The prophecies of Ezra and Daniel and one verse in Jeremiah were written in a language called Aramaic. This language became very popular in the ancient world and actually displaced many other languages. Aramaic even became the common language spoken in Israel in Jesus' time. The New Testament, however, was written in Greek. Greek was the language of scholarship during the years of the composition of the New Testament from 50 to 100 AD. The fact is that many Jews could not even read Hebrew anymore, and this disturbed the Jewish leaders a lot! So, around 300 BC a translation of the Old Testament from Hebrew into Greek was undertaken, and it was completed around 200 BC. Gradually this Greek translation of the Old Testament, called the Septuagint, was widely accepted and was even used in many synagogues. It also became a wonderful missionary tool for the early Christians, for now the Greeks could read God's Word in their own tongue. The earliest English translation of the bible which was well accepted by the entire world was the King James Version. I would suggest and impress upon you to always read the Kings James version since 1) This is the first English translation from all the languages used in the Bible. 2) There was no commercial interest involved 3) It has not been revised. It has only undergone three kinds: of changes .. printing changes, spelling changes, and textual changes Dr. Reagan an excellent researcher into the veracity of the Bible states …The authority for its veracity lies not in the first printing of the King James Version in 1611, or in the character of King James I, or in the scholarship of the 1611 translators, or in the literary accomplishments of Elizabethan England, or even in the Greek Received Text. Our authority for the infallible words of the English Bible lies in the power and promise of God to preserve His Word! God has the power. We have His Word. The word Jehovah appears in the King James version a number of times but in many of the other editions like the I happened to read the Amplified Bible, The common English bible and some other versions .. The word Jehovah is not at all there. The ‘American standard version’ is a version which strived to translate the Bible in almost the exact words used by the original authors. It contains the word Jehovah in 5822 places. It has replaced the words God, Father, etc. into Jehovah. Why did the original translators not use the word Jehovah but used words like God, God the father, Creator etc.? That is because they had great respect and obedience for the commandments of God. In Exodus 20:7 God Jehovah has given the 6th commandment as .. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. Taking this commandment they have refrained from using Gods name. Without much Bias I would recommend use of King James Version. To conclude, the Bible clearly proves that Jesus is the son of God. The father of Jesus in the one and only God Jehovah. Colossians 1:3 we give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ Last but not the least the Bible says in 1 John 4:15 , If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God. If the Bible wanted us to understand Jesus as God it would have mentioned if anyone acknowledges that Jesus is God the son, God lives in them and they in God. Jesus is the first creation of God and not God as proved by the below mentioned verses. Hebrews 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. எபிரெயர் 1:6 மேலும், தமது முதற்பேறானவரை உலகத்தில் பிரவேசிக்கச்செய்தபோது: தேவதூதர் யாவரும் அவரைத் தொழுதுகொள்ளக்கடவர்கள் என்றார். 1 John 1 : 1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; 2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) Let us see how God would have got Jesus Christ. God Jehovah created the heaven, earth, sun, stars etc. All of us will accept this. Let us see what the Bible says. How did God create? Creation of Light was his first creation Genesis. 1:3. தேவன் வெளிச்சம் உண்டாகக்கடவது என்றார், வெளிச்சம் உண்டாயிற்று.And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Second was his creation of sky, oceans and the earth 6. பின்பு தேவன்: ஜலத்தின் மத்தியில் ஆகாயவிரிவு உண்டாகக்கடவது என்றும், அது ஜலத்தினின்று ஜலத்தைப் பிரிக்கக்கடவது என்றும் சொன்னார். And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
9. பின்பு தேவன்: வானத்தின் கீழே இருக்கிற ஜலம் ஓரிடத்தில் சேரவும், வெட்டாந்தரை காணப்படவும் கடவது என்றார்; அது அப்படியே ஆயிற்று.And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10. தேவன் வெட்டாந்தரைக்குப் பூமி என்றும், சேர்ந்த ஜலத்திற்குச் சமுத்திரம் என்றும் பேரிட்டார்; தேவன் அது நல்லது என்று கண்டார்.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. Then he created grass, the herbs and trees
11. அப்பொழுது தேவன்: பூமியானது புல்லையும், விதையைப் பிறப்பிக்கும் பூண்டுகளையும், பூமியின்மேல் தங்களில் தங்கள் விதையையுடைய கனிகளைத் தங்கள் தங்கள் ஜாதியின்படியே கொடுக்கும் கனிவிருட்சங்களையும் முளைப்பிக்கக்கடவது என்றார்; அது அப்படியே ஆயிற்று.
And God said, Let the earth bring forth after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12. பூமியானது புல்லையும், தங்கள் தங்கள் ஜாதியின்படியே விதையைப் பிறப்பிக்கும் பூண்டுகளையும் தங்கள் தங்கள் ஜாதியின்படியே தங்களில் தங்கள் விதையையுடைய கனிகளைக் கொடுக்கும் விருட்சங்களையும் முளைப்பித்தது; தேவன் அது நல்லது என்று கண்டார்.
And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw Then he created the sun, moon, stars, day and night
14. பின்பு தேவன்: பகலுக்கும் இரவுக்கும் வித்தியாசம் உண்டாகத்தக்கதாக வானம் என்கிற ஆகாயவிரிவிலே சுடர்கள் உண்டாகக்கடவது, அவைகள் அடையாளங்களுக்காகவும் காலங்களையும் நாட்களையும் வருஷங்களையும் குறிக்கிறதற்காகவும் இருக்கக்கடவது என்றார்.
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 16. தேவன், பகலை ஆளப் பெரிய சுடரும், இரவை ஆளச் சிறிய சுடரும் ஆகிய இரண்டு மகத்தான சுடர்களையும், நட்சத்திரங்களையும் உண்டாக்கினார். And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Then he created all living beings
20. பின்பு தேவன்: நீந்தும் ஜீவஜந்துக்களையும், பூமியின்மேல் வானம் என்கிற ஆகாயவிரிவிலே பறக்கும் பறவைகளையும், ஜலமானது திரளாய் ஜநிப்பிக்கக்கடவது என்றார்.
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. If we look carefully we will understand that God created all these by the word of his mouth. If he wanted to create anything he has to just say what he wanted and it will come into being. See how God blesses human beings:- Genesis /ஆதியாகமம் 28. பின்பு தேவன் அவர்களை நோக்கி: நீங்கள் பலுகிப் பெருகி, பூமியை நிரப்பி, அதைக் கீழ்ப்படுத்தி, சமுத்திரத்தின் மச்சங்களையும் ஆகாயத்துப் பறவைகளையும், பூமியின்மேல் நடமாடுகிற சகல ஜீவஜந்துக்களையும் ஆண்டுகொள்ளுங்கள் என்று சொல்லி, தேவன் அவர்களை ஆசீர்வதித்தார். And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. A careful reading reveals that God created all he wanted by speaking words. He wanted light. God would have had a conception of how light should look like and with that concept in mind he would have said “let there be light” and light would have come into existence just as the way God perceived it. We human beings create new things in a similar manner. For example if we wanted to build a house, first we conceive a house in our mind, then we convert it into drawing and then we build. Ultimately a house which we had as a concept would have come into existence just the way we conceived it. While we have to build or do something to bring our concepts into a creation God does not have to build. God just has to say “let there be a house” and a house will be created in no time.
God could have given this “power to create by words” to human beings also but a careful reading will reveal that God did not give this “power to create by words” to human beings. Instead he gave the power to create through the use of reproductive organs to human beings and other living beings. With these reproductive organs living beings can reproduce or create new living beings. For example plants and trees reproduce by pollination and cross pollination, fish, animals and humans reproduce through reproductive organs. Man has a reproductive organ called ‘penis’ and women have a reproductive organ called ‘vagina’. These reproductive organs have other associated organs like uterus, scrotum, nerves etc. With these reproductive organs human beings reproduce or create new living beings.
Similarly let us see how God Jehovah would have created living beings in heaven. All of us know that the living beings in heaven like angels are spirits. They don’t have a physical body made out of flesh and bones. Which also indicates that they are invisible. If God had to reproduce or create an angel, he just has to say “let one angel come into being” and an angel will be created. So it is clear that God creates by his ‘words’ and human beings through their ‘reproductive organs’ Another fact also should be clarified at this juncture. God will not have reproductive organs like penis or vagina. Why .. simple .. because it is not needed. Now let us see how Jesus would have been created. Jesus has been declared by God Jehovah as his ‘First Born’ or simply first creation. God could not have been with a lady to give birth to Jesus. The Bible also says that Jesus was with his father Jehovah even before the world and the skies were created. Undoubtedly Jesus is the ‘first born’. Let us examine how Jesus would have come into existence. Undoubtedly he would have come into existence just like any other creation … “BY THE WORD OF GODS MOUTH” .. so in simple terms god Jehovah would have told “let Jesus be created” and Jesus would have come into existence. So Jesus is the first born or first creation of GOD Jehovah and Jesus was with God Jehovah from the beginning. This is exactly what the Bible says. John 1:1. ஆதியிலே வார்த்தை இருந்தது, அந்த வார்த்தை தேவனிடத்திலிருந்தது, அந்த வார்த்தை தேவனாயிருந்தது. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2. அவர் ஆதியிலே தேவனோடிருந்தார்.
The same was in the beginning with God. In I John chapter 1 verse1 when John describes Jesus he says as follows 1. ஆதிமுதலாய் இருந்ததும், நாங்கள் கேட்டதும், எங்கள் கண்களினாலே கண்டதும், நாங்கள் நோக்கிப்பார்த்ததும், எங்கள் கைகளினாலே தொட்டுப்பார்த்ததுமாயிருக்கிற ஜீவவார்த்தையைக் குறித்து உங்களுக்கு அறிவிக்கிறோம். That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; Now who is the word of God. Jesus is the word of God Revelations/ வெளி 13. இரத்தத்தில் தோய்க்கப்பட்ட வஸ்திரத்தைத் தரித்திருந்தார்; அவருடைய நாமம் தேவனுடைய வார்த்தை என்பதே. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Jesus Christ has many names like prince of peace, Immanuel etc and one of his names is “The word of God”. The above verses will prove that Jesus was the first creation of God and he was with God Jehovah from the beginning. Naturally the first creation itself means he is there from the beginning. In கொலோசெயர்/Colossians 1:15 & 16 it is told that Jesus is the first born of God Jehovah and Jesus is in the same image of God Jehovah and God Jehovah created the heaven and all other things by Jesus and for Jesus. 1: 15. அவர் அதரிசனமான தேவனுடைய தற்சுரூபமும், சர்வ சிருஷ்டிக்கும் முந்தின பேறுமானவர். Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16. ஏனென்றால் அவருக்குள் சகலமும் சிருஷ்டிக்கப்பட்டது; பரலோகத்திலுள்ளவைகளும் பூலோகத்திலுள்ளவைகளுமாகிய காணப்படுகிறவைகளும் காணப்படாதவைகளுமான சகல வஸ்துக்களும், சிங்காசனங்களானாலும், கர்த்தத்துவங்களானாலும், துரைத்தனங்களானாலும், அதிகாரங்களானாலும், சகலமும் அவரைக்கொண்டும் அவருக்கென்றும் சிருஷ்டிக்கப்பட்டது.
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17. அவர் எல்லாவற்றிற்கும் முந்தினவர், எல்லாம் அவருக்குள் நிலைநிற்கிறது.
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. Now let us see whether the Holy spirit can be called God The first mention of the word “Holy spirit” is found in Psalm 51:11 - Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me. It will also be of use to refer to Luke 1:35 - The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. The word spirit literally means “The vital principle or animating force within living beings” or “the non-physical part of a person regarded as their true self and as capable of surviving physical death or separation” Yes true. The spirit of God Jehovah means the animating force of Jehovah or his spirit which he has given to every one of us who are alive now. When we are alive we bear the spirit of God. When we die, the bible says the spirit returns back to the God who gave it. Ecclesiastes 12:7 describes death in these terms: “and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.” According to the Bible, the soul leaves the body at death. The Gospels tell us that at the moment of his death, Jesus prayed, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!” and then “he yielded up his spirit” (Luke 23:46; Matthew 27:50). This text makes clear that Jesus’ soul did not remain in his dead body, but went into his Father’s hands. Father of Jesus means Jehovah The first Christian martyr (after Jesus) was Stephen. Acts 7:59-60 describes his death: “And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit." And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them." And when he had said this, he fell asleep.” These verses in the Bible is proof enough that the body has one destination and the spirit/soul has another There is additional evidence that the soul leaves the body at death. Several of the resurrection stories in the Bible describe the soul as returning to the body. This implies, of course, that the soul had left in the first place. First, there is the example of Elijah raising the widow’s son from the dead. “And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again. 22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived” (1 Kings 17:21-22). This passage specifically says that the child’s soul “came into him again.” A second example is Jesus’ raising of Jairus’s twelve year old daughter from the dead. “And they laughed at him, knowing that she was dead. 54 But taking her by the hand he called, saying, "Child, arise." 55 And her spirit returned, and she got up at once (Luke 8:53-55). Thessalonians 4:8 clarifies who gives us the holy spirit - Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is one which is given and can be taken back by God Jehovah. This is proved by the Bible in the following verse. 1.Psalm 51:11 - Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me. And who has got the power to give and take the holy spirit .. It is God Jehovah, our heavenly father. (Remember Jesus taught us to pray .. Our father which art in heaven) Luke 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? 1 Corinthians 6:19 - Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; The above verses make it clear that the Holy Spirit is one which can be given and taken by God Jehovah. Holy Spirit can be received from God Jehovah by asking. Now let us ask a logical question Can God Jehovah give us Jesus Christ? Yes, it is proved by the Bible that Jehovah sent Jesus to be born as the son of man. Can Jehovah give us his Holy Spirit? Yes, It is proved by the Bible that on many occasions. The Holy Spirit came down on Samson, Jesus, Paul and so many people. The Bible says God sent his holy spirit. Now conversely let us ask .. Can the Holy Spirit give us God Jehovah? I can only see your eyes blinking and searching for an answer. The only answer can be “NO THE HOLY SPIRIT CANNOT GIVE US JEHOVAH” You would have guessed the next question .. Can the Holy Spirit give us Jesus Christ?? Same blinking and search for an answer. … I can see it on your face right now. The only answer can be “NO THE HOLY SPIRIT CANNOT GIVE US JESUS CHRIST” Now how can Jesus or the holy spirit be called God when they do not possess the power which Jehovah has got. This itself should have shaken you back to your senses but if you still refuse to believe that there is a trinity .. God Jehovah open your eyes and save you. Because the Holy Spirit is an animating force it has been referred as being poured on human beings as well as on Jesus. God cannot be poured. If the spirit was God how can it be poured? Can God be poured? God has got several attributes and qualities like Grace, love, affection, strength, patience etc. He poured strength on Samson. He poured love on all human beings. He is affectionate to his creation. He is patient towards sinners. Just like he gives all these he gives his holy spirit also to human beings and to Jesus. The Holy Spirit is not a human being, just an animate force of God Jehovah and by no stretch of imagination can it be God. It is the animate force of Jehovah God which he contains in him. That is why the Bible says that there are many gifts which Jehovah God gives human beings through his holy spirit. 23.Hebrews 2:4 - God also testified to it by signs, wonders and various miracles, and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will. Jesus Christ, after his resurrection and after being seated at the right side of his father Jehovah, received the Holy Spirit from God the father -Jehovah and poured it on his disciples 6.Acts 2:33 - Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. Just like he gives his holy spirit he gives his power also. 10.Acts 10:38 - how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him. Whether he pours his love or power or anything he has, he gives it to us through his holy spirit. 13.Romans 5:5 - And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us. So it is clear through these Bible verses that like pouring love or grace God Jehovah pours several things on his children. He pours his fury, he pours his wrath, he pours his indignation and he pours his blessings Ezekiel 30:15 - And I will pour my fury upon Sin, the strength of Egypt; and I will cut off the multitude 129.Hosea 5:10 - The princes of Judah were like them that remove the bound: therefore I will pour out my wrath upon them like water. Zephaniah 3:8 - Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the Lord, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy. Malachi 3:10 - Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. Similarly God Jehovah pours out his spirit also Joel 2:29 - And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. Acts 2:17 - And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: Acts 10:45 - And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. The holy spirit is not God .. it is a gift of God. God is Jehovah. Just like Jesus Christ is the son of God the holy spirit is the holy spirit of God Jehovah .. a gift of God Jehovah … that is all. When the Bible says so .. why should we say something contrary??? That is why it is said in 19.2 Corinthians 13:14 May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. The meaning of fellowship is given below. Fellowship means The condition of sharing similar interests, ideals, or experiences, as by reason of profession, religion, or nationality.
The Holy Spirit shares the same interests as God Jehovah since it is his holy spirit. Jesus too shares the same interests as God Jehovah since he is the son of God Jehovah. Never can the spirit of God Jehovah and the son of God Jehovah be called or equated to God himself. The Holy Spirit will teach you the Bible just like it taught Paul all about Jesus and his father Jehovah. (You may recall the Paul was not a disciple of Jesus at all but he knew everything. Paul himself says that he has been taught by the Holy Spirit) So better start reading the Bible and understand the truth as mentioned in John 14:26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. Acts 2:33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. Holy spirit is a gift from God. It is given to those who obey him Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.” How can ‘a gift which is given by God’ become “God the father – Jehovah”. Acts 2:38 - The holy spirit is given to all those who repent and get baptised in the name of Jesus Christ as mentioned in Acts 2:38 .. Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Is there a holy spirit and a son of God . Yes. This is clearly proved by the Bible in Luke 3:22 .. and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” There is God Jehovah .. There is Jesus Christ … And there is the holy spirit. I only say that neither Jesus nor the holy spirit can be God Jehovah. Jesus Christ cannot be compared to Jehovah God Jehovah has delegated the power to cast evil spirits, the power to forgive the sins of human beings, To cast out the demons, To chain Satan and put him in prison, To rule this world, To cure the lame, blind and deaf and many other powers to Jesus Christ. But read the Bible carefully God Jehovah has not given the powers to listen to prayers of human beings to Jesus. That is why we should pray to God Jehovah only .. through Jesus Christ. In John 14:8 Jesus himself declares that his father is greater than him 28. நான் போவேன் என்றும், திரும்பி உங்களிடத்தில் வருவேன் என்றும் நான் உங்களுடனே சொன்னதைக் கேட்டீர்களே. நீங்கள் என்னில் அன்புள்ளவர்களாயிருந்தால் பிதாவினிடத்திற்குப் போகிறேனென்று நான் சொன்னதைக் குறித்துச் சந்தோஷப்படுவீர்கள், ஏனெனில் என் பிதா என்னிலும் பெரியவராயிருக்கிறார். Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Jesus declares that he is only the vine but his father is the owner of the entire garden in John 15 1. நான் மெய்யான திராட்சச்செடி, என் பிதா திராட்சத் தோட்டக்காரர். I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Then who is the true God. What is his name? His name is Jehovah and this name is declared directly by God himself Exodus 17:13. அப்பொழுது மோசே தேவனை நோக்கி: நான் இஸ்ரவேல் புத்திரரிடத்தில் போய், உங்கள் பிதாக்களுடைய தேவன் உங்களிடத்தில் என்னை அனுப்பினார் என்று அவர்களுக்குச் சொல்லும்போது, அவருடைய நாமம் என்ன என்று அவர்கள் என்னிடத்தில் கேட்டால், நான் அவர்களுக்கு என்ன சொல்லுவேன் என்றான். And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14. அதற்குத் தேவன்: இருக்கிறவராக இருக்கிறேன் என்று மோசேயுடனே சொல்லி, இருக்கிறேன் என்பவர் என்னை உங்களிடத்துக்கு அனுப்பினார் என்று இஸ்ரவேல் புத்திரரோடே சொல்வாயாக என்றார்.
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. 17. யேகோவா என்னும் நாமத்தையுடைய தேவரீர் ஒருவரே பூமியனைத்தின்மேலும் உன்னதமானவர் என்று மனுஷர் உணரும்படி, Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: யாத்திராகமம் 6 :2. மேலும், தேவன் மோசேயை நோக்கி: நான் யேகோவா, And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD: 3. சர்வவல்லமையுள்ள தேவன் என்னும் நாமத்தினால் நான் ஆபிரகாமுக்கும் ஈசாக்குக்கும் யாக்கோபுக்கும் தரிசனமானேன்; ஆனாலும் யேகோவா என்னும் என் நாமத்தினால் நான் அவர்களுக்கு அறியப்படவில்லை. And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them Psalms 68:4. தேவனைப்பாடி, அவருடைய நாமத்தைக் கீர்த்தனம்பண்ணுங்கள்; வனாந்தரங்களில் ஏறிவருகிறவருக்கு வழியை ஆயத்தப்படுத்துங்கள்; அவருடைய நாமம் யேகோவா, அவருக்கு முன்பாகக் களிகூருங்கள். Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAHOVAH, and rejoice before him. Psalms 83:17. யேகோவா என்னும் நாமத்தையுடைய தேவரீர் ஒருவரே பூமியனைத்தின்மேலும் உன்னதமானவர் என்று மனுஷர் உணரும்படி, Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: Isiah / ஏசாயா 12:2 . இதோ, தேவனே என் இரட்சிப்பு; நான் பயப்படாமல் நம்பிக்கையாயிருப்பேன்; கர்த்தராகிய யேகோவா என் பெலனும், என் கீதமுமானவர்; அவரே எனக்கு இரட்சிப்புமானவர். Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.
Isiah/ஏசாயா 26:4. 4. கர்த்தரை என்றென்றைக்கும் நம்புங்கள்; கர்த்தராகிய யேகோவா நித்திய கன்மலையாயிருக்கிறார். Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength: Jermiah/ எரேமியா 16:21. ஆதலால், இதோ, இப்பொழுது நான் அவர்களுக்குத் தெரியப்பண்ணுவேன்; என் கரத்தையும் என் பெலத்தையுமே அவர்களுக்குத் தெரியப்பண்ணுவேன்; என் நாமம் யேகோவா என்று அறிந்துகொள்வார்கள். Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD. Jermiah/ எரேமியா 33:2 இதைச் செய்கிற கர்த்தருமாய், இதைத் திடப்படுத்தும்படிக்கு இதை உருவேற்படுத்துகிற கர்த்தருமாயிருக்கிற யேகோவா என்னும் நாமமுள்ளவர் சொல்லுகிறது என்னவென்றால்: Thus saith the LORD the maker thereof, the LORD that formed it, to establish it; the LORD is his name; Ezekiel/எசேக்கியேல் 48: 35. சுற்றிலும் அதின் அளவு பதினெண்ணாயிரங்கோலாகும்; அந்நாள்முதல் நகரம் யேகோவா ஷம்மா என்னும் பெயர்பெறும். It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name of the city from that day shall be, The LORD is there. Hosea/ ஓசியா 12:5 5. கர்த்தராகிய அவர் சேனைகளின் தேவன்; யேகோவா என்பது அவருடைய நாமசங்கீர்த்தனம். Even the LORD God of hosts; the LORD is his memorial. By this I hope that you would have understood that trinity and other definitions are only manmade and is opposed to what the Bible says and Jesus said.