Relationship Path - Needs Training Sometimes

Started by Peter Rohel (c) on Sunday, October 16, 2011

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10/16/2011 at 4:57 PM

Many Users - Assume "They are Not Related" - if Geni Path is "Not Found"

That is Not 100% True - Sometimes - Geni needs to be "Showed the Path" (trained):

1) If You know You have a Common Relative with Someone
2) Exchange each others Path
3) Find the Last Profile "With a Path" - that is followed by Profiles "With No Path"
4) Work your way Forward through the Path - in "Profile View" 1 by 1
5) Until the Person's Last Public Profile (next step is Optional)
6) Make the Next "Private Profile" temporally Public - and Continue 4) above
7) Congratulations - You now have a Relationship Path - between the 2 of you :)

[http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~prohel/stories/Ou... My Famous Relatives on GENI] page, path incl.'''

10/28/2011 at 12:24 AM

Peter Rohel (c) - this text shall not be here (Translators), but here: http://www.geni.com/projects/Geni-Help (Geni Help)

BR

Lauri

10/28/2011 at 5:33 AM

Peter Rohel (c) Just copy your hints to the Geni Help project discussions. (Create similar new topic)
Geni Help project is not only for the help requests, but also for instructions, hints and other kind of help...

10/28/2011 at 12:22 PM

It will always be the case that some paths are too far to find, and that even relatively close relations might not actually be connected on Geni (if my cousin started a tree today and didn't merge it with mine, Geni obviously wouldn't be able to tell me that he's my cousin). So the wording on the failure case should be more like "we can't find the path" rather than "you are not related." I believe it currently says (in English) "No path found to <profile>" which is pretty close to what I would suggest.

Private User
10/28/2011 at 12:27 PM

But Geni combines calculated paths, where the record so far is mentioned here: http://www.geni.com/discussions/100094?msg=743567

10/28/2011 at 12:52 PM

I thought this one was a bit cute/silly
http://www.geni.com/path/Randy+Schoenberg+is+related+to+Vlad+the+Im...
(According to Geni: I descend from Jacob; he's from Esau -- and that's the difference right there!)

10/28/2011 at 1:05 PM

LOL!

Private User
10/28/2011 at 1:15 PM

❝Look for more path search options coming soon❞

How many years have we seen this message? ☻

10/28/2011 at 1:35 PM

Mike Stangel Noah, Justin and I had a good discussion on this when i visited a few weeks ago. I hope you got the notes. There are things you could to to improve the algorithm.

Not sure if you changed anything recently, but I did notice that Peter Rohel and I went from being relatively close in a sideways connection to being very distant blood relatives. Perhaps he added an upward link that gave us common ancestors, and you default to common ancestors (but then not sure why it isn't working like that all the time). In any case, after a certain distance, the common ancestor thing isn't really as interesting as a shorter sideways connection.

12/31/2012 at 7:50 AM

Mike Stangel, Noah Tutak

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~prohel/stories/Fa...

My web page above - has abt. 300 famous people on Geni.

Over the past 6 months - I noticed periodically few of the Profiles Loosing the "shared path link" - I included on the page with the Profiles.

However - in the past 2-3 weeks - I noticed perhaps 75%+ Lost Paths !!!

1) any chance in the FUTURE - Geni can save the Shared Path - even if the Path has been changed - and is different now ??

2) is there a Different Solution - that would STOP the LOSS of established Shared Path - when changed due to New profile, Merge, etc. ??

Many Geni users use my Famous web page - to construct Their Path to the same people - from the Path I have (use to have) for All the Profiles on the web page.

*** I have spent 200+ hrs on the page - and I am NOT looking forward to - Searching, Re-constructing, etc. - the Paths that have Now been Lost.

Geni's path feature is Excellent - but if Users keep Loosing it - there is a Problem, and Not only of Their time loss finding & re-creating it !!!

Thank you both for your Help and I hope - Solution can be found :)

Peter

12/31/2012 at 11:40 AM

Peter I can regenerate these paths for you. We do store these but don't guarantee permanence... we had a situation a couple months ago where some paths were lost. I'll kick these off and you'll get email notifications of those that find paths.

12/31/2012 at 11:53 AM

Mike Stangel - Just updated the one for Joanne Woodward + Paul Nemann.

Thanks Mike, it will save me time - no rush, when you get to it.

Happy New Year to you and your family :)

Peter

Private User
12/31/2012 at 12:26 PM

Mike Stangel and Peter Rohel (c)

I have noticed some changes in the relationship paths the past week or two as well. I had paths to some users that are now gone. It seems like if a path was there and neither of us became unlinked from our trees that the path shouldn't disappear. Was the limit on the number of names between two profiles changed - or something along those lines....

No major urgency. Just curious.

Happy new year to all! :))

1/10/2013 at 1:39 PM

@sergio la greca. Estes assuntos não têm nada a haver com minha Árvore Genealógica. Por favor procurem se localizar.

1/28/2013 at 8:34 AM

Mike Stangel, Cecil Stuart Dana

Cecil is wondering why the Path of - Phillip Lovell is No longer his wife's 9th GGF - since he was Merged into the Big tree ??

1) Phillip Lovell is - Cecil Stuart Dana's wife's 7th great aunt's husband's great grandfather
http://www.geni.com/path/Cecil+Dana+is+related+to+Phillip+Lovell?fr...

2) Phillip Lovell is actually - my wife's 9th GGF *his grandson Path below

3) Nathaniel Lovell is - Cecil Stuart Dana's wife's 7th great grandfather
http://www.geni.com/path/Cecil+Dana+is+related+to+Nathaniel+Lovell?...

Am I right in my deduction that it's due to it being - a closer relationship - as #7 comes before #9 ??

Geni is or was planning to give us multiple Path routes - blood, closest, etc. - and we'll just have to wait for it :)

1/29/2013 at 8:14 AM

Mesmo tendo me manifestado em 10/01/2013 Vocês ainda continuam . invadindo a casa dos outros.

1/29/2013 at 8:16 AM

Mesmo tendo me manifestado em 10/01/2013 vocês continuam invadindo a casa dos outros.

1/29/2013 at 9:54 AM

Sergio La Greca 3.09.04 - you have now posted 3 messages on this thread in Portuguse - however I am unable to determine what is your Concern, problem, issue - when I translate your message using google translate:
http://translate.google.com/#auto/en/%40sergio%20la%20greca.%20Este...

Please try again and be more specific - if you actually want something :)

1/29/2013 at 10:43 AM

Acima desta discussão, clique em "Não acompanhar".

2/2/2013 at 8:16 AM

THIS DISCUSSION - MOVED TO - Relationship Path - technical difficulties?

http://www.geni.com/discussions/119588?msg=849108

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