Started by Keith Swaim on Thursday, December 29, 2011


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12/29/2011 at 3:33 PM

Does anyone know how the name got changed to Swaim?

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12/30/2011 at 4:31 AM

Hi Keith,

Looks like we our third cousins. I have no idea how the name got changed or when. My research has taken me back several generations and I have seen the name as Swaim, Swain and Swim. How do you think if got changed?

Your Cuz, Myrna

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12/30/2011 at 4:59 AM

From: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~smithhouse/smithg...

The Swaim family arived in the US from Leerdam, Holland and settled on Staten Island. They were part of the original settlers of Staten Island. Three children came with tme family, Barent, Beleytje and Anthony. Barent and Belytje were children by Thys first wife Peterke jans. Anthony was the son of Sytje. They came to the US aboard the "De St. Jan Baptist" May 9 1661. You'll notice that the surname changed. The story is that the family were protestors. They were working secretly and took the name name Swaim, which stood for "S Working Against I Monarchs." As this was activity was frowned upon by those in power nothing was written. This was is probably just an oral family tradition that may or may not even been true. And of course they were dutch and would not have used English. What were the Dutch words? And would they still have the same first initials? More likely just a coincidence discovered after they arrived.

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12/30/2011 at 6:05 AM

Thanks Bjorn, That was very interesting, and I did not know that. Are you related to the Swaims?

Private User
12/30/2011 at 6:44 AM

Nah, - just did a quick Google for you, but remember Geni's slogan: We are all related.

Private User
12/30/2011 at 7:26 AM

There is by the way more theories about the name on that web-page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~smithhouse/smithg...

12/30/2011 at 9:59 AM

You should look at the New Amsterdam series of projects. i hope that your ancestor's profile is already there. Here's a link to the umbrella project: http://www.geni.com/projects/New-Amsterdam. George J. Homs was the mastermind behind the project and it's one of the more successful, collaborative projects on Geni and of interest to hundred of thousands of descendants potentially.

12/30/2011 at 10:46 AM

Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it.

1/5/2012 at 5:02 AM

i think a more probable theory is the phonetic spelling. in dutch the spelling of swaim is sweem, the double e's make a long A sound. so in america they probably pronounced it sweem (rhyming with cream) and the family had the spelling changed so it was pronounced correctly. but thats just an idea.

Private User
1/5/2012 at 6:57 AM

Great Theory Chrissy. Your probably right on.

1/6/2012 at 3:05 PM

does anyone know how to find living relatives in holland? im moving back to amsterdam in a couple months and would love to find dutchies im related to. thanks!

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1/6/2012 at 3:30 PM

Depends on what you are looking for.
Phone numbers? http://www.detelefoongids.nl/

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