Victoria Mary Sackville-West, Lady Nicolson, CH - Why is this woman SCANDALOUS?

Started by Private User on Saturday, June 23, 2012


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Private User
6/23/2012 at 4:12 PM

To my opinion it is of no respect to link this woman whose story I read written by her son in a project with the titel SCANDALOUS WOMEN. Is that in general the idea of managers abroad or did the Curator added this adjective?

6/23/2012 at 6:42 PM

From the overview:

"...and a lady with the most talked about reputation in Europe .."

Most notably for her relationship with Virginia Woolf.

6/23/2012 at 6:44 PM

-jMu- I studied English & American literature at university. There is not a doubt that Vita was considered "scandalous" in her time (and an under rated talent).

Private User
6/23/2012 at 7:55 PM

Hey, Erica Howton.. Watch what you say about my cousin Vita..! :)

6/23/2012 at 7:59 PM

It would be interesting to know what her reputation is in Europe currently. When I was in college, in the US, a very long time ago, she was held up as a shining example of a strong women who defied her contemporaries to create her own life. I had any number of college girlfriends who idolized her. If she wasn't really scandalous, my college girlfriends were wasting their energy ;)

6/23/2012 at 8:03 PM

The project objective is:

"Let's celebrate women of scandal: mischievous, anarchistic, colorful, noisy women of immense moral courage."

It's one of my favorite projects! Whenever I find the profile of a woman doing something considered outrageous, I want to add her to the project.

Men are so boring (at times) by comparison. :)

6/23/2012 at 8:04 PM

Was Vita a Duck? I thought she was of Swan heritage.

6/23/2012 at 8:16 PM

No doubt she was an ugly duckling turned into a swan ;)

(Sorry, FnDuck. No offense intended. I couldn't resist.)

Private User
6/23/2012 at 8:22 PM

SWAN ...... Actually it was something like Duck-White-Tufton-Bishop-West- Sackville West .....ttfn

(np there Justiin. I will however make note of it for future reference.)

Private User
6/23/2012 at 11:49 PM

What a scandalous kind of discussion here ! Hope her son and grandchildren do NOT visit GENI nowadays, for I think European Suffragettes would become anxious not before but AFTER la lettre....

Private User
6/23/2012 at 11:52 PM

and forl the Americans not able to read French, luckily WikiPedia gives translations too for this very European Emancipation Wars of Women Democracy [mind you: NOT -craZy....] :


Private User
6/23/2012 at 11:53 PM

Isabel, what about a project: The Happy Hooker ?

6/24/2012 at 12:06 AM

My name is Erica, the German way. And no, I'm not interested in a project with that title.

6/24/2012 at 12:17 AM

To further expand my names:

Erica is my first name, for the character "Erica" in Thomas Mann's novel "Buddenbrooks."
Isabel is my middle name, for the character "Isabel Archer" in Henry James' novel "Portrait of a Lady.". I rarely use my middle name in "real life" but I have a cousin who was called Erica Howton before she married and changed her name.

"The Happy Hooker" was a "memoir" by a woman of Dutch origin named "Xaviera Hollander" who worked professionally as a prostitute. So while that may qualify her as a "scandalous woman" - the "memoir" (verassitude has been questioned), this project is not about prostitution (or to be more politically correct, a worker in the sex trades). It is about women who were scandalous in their time and in their own way.

6/24/2012 at 12:25 AM

Which includes what was once called suffragettes, and the first female ministers. -jMu- whatever made you think this was a project about prostitution? The project image is of Lady Godiva, who was a political activist in medieval times!

Private User
6/24/2012 at 1:01 AM

I love the books of Isabel ALLENDE and read them mosty all and from start to finish...

Private User
6/24/2012 at 1:03 AM

but NOT in English, German, French or even Spanish, but DUTCH for I was happy to live in a country where all cultural heritage is disseminated by world-wide translations... And YES, we do have HAPPY Hookers here around, like in PARIS on every corner of our streets.

Private User
6/24/2012 at 1:09 AM

...thanks to ORGANON in Oss-North-Brabant-the Netherlands every woman can choose her own partner and is no longer dependant of the papa's to choose them a bride. For in the laboratories of this world-wide-Dutch-origin multi-national they made the first preparations of stereoids [from PIGS, mind you!] wtth the power to change your hormonal intenal menagerie to get a partner of your own habits... But unfortanely nowadays so many woman use this prediction that even in our drinking-water coming through the robinets in our kitchens the sexe-influx is not clear as water from a spring....

6/24/2012 at 1:23 AM

Yes, Isabel Allende is a great author. I do not believe her life is considered "scandalous" however.

Private User
6/24/2012 at 5:17 AM

ofcourse not... on the contrarary, that was not at all i ment to write, sorry for her descendants. -jMu-

Private User
6/24/2012 at 5:20 AM

but like Isabel A. also the son of Lady Sackville-West was to my opinion a good writer, for the way he biographed his mother's life is really informative about the way women at that time tried to stay decend and living their style of sexe too, like f.i. Virginia WOOLF was also doing with great elegance, but also with lot of people narrating about her as a scandalous women... I do not agree, here in the Netherlands lots of women with a tast of their own are able to marry to ones they really love in live.

6/24/2012 at 5:28 AM

I believe you are not giving credit for "time and place" -jMu-, and indeed Vita Sackville-West is greatly to be admired for many reasons, her "scandalous" nature not the least. I am sure Vita's son is well aware of her reputation (and most concerned with her literary legacy, perhaps). I also have difficulty imagining that her profile being is a genealogical project honoring scandalous women would be least upsetting. Particularly if it stimulates book sales.

Private User
6/24/2012 at 6:32 AM

this is not a commercial platform, is it?

6/24/2012 at 6:42 AM

I was joking, -jMu-.

Private User
6/24/2012 at 8:30 AM

ok, with a smile, i am not that good in modern signs like ::--)} etc.

Private User
6/28/2012 at 5:16 AM
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