Started by Alex Moes © on Friday, July 20, 2012


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7/20/2012 at 4:09 AM

I have commented recently in the Collaboration Pool discussion ( http://www.geni.com/discussions/74031?msg=803919 ) that people continue to post @yourname in that thread.
While it is simple enough for us to Unfollow, there is a chance that those people who post in this way are not actually joining the current project and so missing out on the benefits.
The most reasonable explanation i can think of for this is that there are two sets of instructions on the project page. While i do not find the reason behind this confusing it is possible that non-native English speakers may be confused.
I propose removing the following section from the project page:
Greetings all...

One of the most frustrating/irritating thing about geni (for me) is the time consuming nature of trying to get enough permissions to fix many areas of the tree.

I, currently, have 398 collaborators... a number it's taken me more than a year to accumulate, and I still run into large areas where I have no permissions to work in.

So I propose a solution to this, in this very thread.

My solution is simple... post here with "@yourname" to indicate your willingness to join the "Collaboration Pool".

The rules are simple: 1.) if you post here, you are indicating your willingness to accept any collaboration request from anyone else who posts here 2.) before you can send a collaboration request from someone in this thread, you *MUST* post your name here (reciprocity) 3.) you may remove your name at any time by deleting your post 4.) you must respect the deleted posts as 'out of bounds' (ie., *DO NOT* send a request to a user who has deleted their post here) 5.) a post in this thread *without* the "@yourname"... is *NOT* an entrant in this pool

If enough people join in this effort, we can, rapidly, remove many of the prior barriers to fixing this mess.


I am willing to make he change but i wanted to seek some consensus here first.
Give me your opinions fellow Genies.

7/20/2012 at 4:11 AM

Rather than just completely deleting the text it could be replaced with a brief note explaining there was a different system in place previously but not giving too much detail?

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7/21/2012 at 11:55 PM

Good Day, 3xA - Alex Moes © - I very much agree with you that the text of this project needs adaption to the fact that it is now in use for very many different languaged people and maybe it would be sufficient to make some short sentences that explain why this project exists and on what motieven. After that we should make an mutual efford to translate that text in as many lanugages as possible, so every first visitor can read easily without complicating translation-tools or machines what it is about. Maybe it is to be considered to distinguish some related COLLABORATION POOLS for different important world-languages like f.i. Dutch :-), French, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, Bahasa Indonesia, German and, ofcourse BRITTISH, for from that 7 miljard of earth-trotters there is only a part able to hear, hopefully understand and what's more read & write english, sorry american. But on the other hand, just the challenge of geni is to meet each other and reach hands, I think.... only we lack body-language to complete our discussions.
I use this project also to attent users I share parts of the tree with but not directly necessary col-laborates, that is it possible to find others rather easily to reach your own ancestry-search far more quickly. Well, reactions welcome on my suggestions, an example of this approach -under construction ! - you can also find in my projects:
* http://www.geni.com/projects/Universala-Deklaracio-de-Homaj-Rajtoj/...
* http://www.geni.com/projects/11-11-11-global-celebration-of-life/8731
Have a nice day & love with fun, than you can always walk with a smile. -jMu-

9/10/2012 at 9:19 AM

Alex Moes © since no has raised an objection to your suggestion, I believe you have the portfolio to go ahead and edit the project overview.

9/10/2012 at 12:05 PM


9/10/2012 at 5:58 PM

A reasonable assumption Erica but Eldon's comments in the other discussion indicate that at least some people disagree :)
I'm swayed by Eldon's comments that the old method was easier but that raises the question of why the change was instituted?
Tag :Liivi Murumets
Your name is next to the oldest page revision that i can see, do you have any history to educate us why the attempt was made to shift away from @yourname?

9/10/2012 at 7:06 PM

Also take note of the concept of tagging yourself so we know whom to collaborate with AND that you have assented. Eldon Clark (C) pointed out that using the@ symbol to tag is difficult. If you post, your Geni profile shows on the left. So nice simple language, step by step, would be great in the project overview.

9/10/2012 at 8:21 PM

Go ahead, Alex.

9/11/2012 at 3:20 AM

Talking about important languages, since a week or so only, my preset language of English deafults into German each time I reload Geni - only because I right now live in Germany. This is fully unacceptable IMHO.
While known from Google to some extent, we are not Google (as yet, I hope) and when I chose a language I want my setting to stick to that language.
Not that I have any problems with german, but the German computer vocabulary is cumbersome and often ridiculous. Not practical for me at all.


9/11/2012 at 4:21 AM

The Sharon Lee Doubell has just worked for me for the first time EVER since I've been on Geni!
Trying some more: Erica "the Disconnectrix" Howton Alex Moes © Justin Swanström Private User
Wow!!!! This is so much quicker.
Did I say "Wow!!!"

9/11/2012 at 4:24 AM

Oh dear - it worked so well that it hypertexted my first sentence. Which was:

The @ Sharon has just worked for me for the first time EVER since I've been on Geni!

(Sorry for calling you no reason Justin and Bjorn - but yours are the names that I usually have difficulty getting into hypertext.)

9/11/2012 at 6:25 AM

Sten Waldö thanks for the bug report, we are aware of it and intend to release a fix today.

9/11/2012 at 11:13 AM

Good - since I'm going to Italy tomorrow for a week :) No problems with Italian either, but English remains my language of choice for this site - for many obvious reasons.


9/14/2012 at 2:41 AM

This bug is still not fixed...

1/4/2013 at 3:57 AM

I think you will find that this has been fixed, I just used it to join the Collaboration Project. My experience is that is enough to just type @you to get a list which includes a reference to my profile.

Will Chapman (Geni Curator)

1/4/2013 at 6:00 AM

I haven't been able to get it to work for a while again Will Chapman (Geni Curator) -- No, there it is. Yaay,.. until the next time!

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