Anders Thulin - Who was Anders Thulin?

Hejsan,

your question now is not as easy to resolve as before. Churchbooks are now difficult or not existing and you might have to study tax books which is a job for experts and local researchers. But in order to ask locals you should know where Anders comes from.
We do not know where Anders is born. Information available in "familysearch.org" and elsewhere are "Kristianstad, Ängelholm" which doesn't make a lot of sense and he can't be found in the churchbooks of Ängelholm, Helsingborg or Kristianstad. Anders with parents is not in the DDSS database for any reason. There are Anders born on April 5, 1747 as "wild card" but the information doesn't make any sense either.

Some hints to start with:

Born in 1747 with the name of Tulin and a marriage with the family of Bronckman, Anders could have had parents like men of the church and faith, stemming most likely from some old Danish family because the area was Danish in the 1700th century.

1) Find out who is Bronckman - Anders first mate. Bronckman family was well situated and there should be only one family Bronckman in Ängelholm.
Check the DDSS database for the information. Cederkrantz, majors and directors are involved in the birth of the Bronckman children. (not Anders children but some other Bronckmans)

2) When Anders daughter Maria and his wife Bronckman died in 1781 within a couple of days also a woman at the age of 65 with the name of Bengta Thulin died. Bengta could be the mother.

3) Check with managers of the profiles below if they know more about the Allarum-Tulin family. Allarum is located close to Helsingborg.
Nils Konrad Jensen Tulin
Unknown Profile

Well, there are reverends and sextons(?) (klockare) around Kristianstad and Helsingborg with the name of Tulin some are mentioned in "geni.com".

This was just a hint and some thoughts to keep in mind: an old Danish family of reverends called Tulin and located in the area of Kristianstad, Ängelholm and Helsingborg.

Best regards
Gerhard

I agree this one will be harder. Some great suggestion you have.

I had a quick look at Knut Nilsson Thulin and he had a son named Anders which could be our first candidate. Anders Thulin was Kyrkoherde i Höja 1743-1780 and that's just outside Ängelholm. (Ella you are the managers, do you think Anders could have a son named Anders?).

In regards to the Bronckman family (warning, lots various spellings), there was a Johan Bronckman married to a Petronella Lund in Ängelholm. Place and dates fits for them to be Johanna Christina's parents, and we see the name Petronella used later on in the family. But again no birth records.

I also thought about Anders Thulin career as a customs officer. There's must be some records available for that? Where do we look?

Thanks again

Jonas

Hejsan,

Anders father was most likely Peter Thuljn (mother not mentioned).
He had a son 31.3.1732 named Carl Hack in Helsingborg and Peter was "cornet sjötullsförvaltare". I've seen many times that a son inherits the job of the father in the 1800th century.
Peter is not mentioned any more in the DDSS database and he is not mentioned in the church books in Helsingborg (husförhör) which means that he was there only a short time - maybe less than 3 years.

We have seen with the other customs inspectors that they had to travel a lot and therefore Peter and the Anders we are looking for is outside the DDSS database area.
Look for a "cornet sjötullförvaltare" Peter Thuljn (Tholjn).

Gerhard

Be aware - several (many) parishes are missing in the DDSS database; parts of Halland and e.g. Karlshamn. There is a family of customs inspectors with the name Tholjin but not our Anders since - what I believe - he is in a different ditrict and not in "Customs district east".

The name Hack - I mentioned before - is very strange and also belongs to a branch of a family Tholjin which became Swedish nobles.

However, all we know is, that Anders should be part of a "customs family";
and he might also be named Tholjin which later was changed to Thulin.

Gerhard

I've been looking at the birth records of Anders' kids at none of Anders' family was present at any of the baptisms. So I think it is reasonable to assume that Anders was not related to any of the Thulin's living around Engelholm at the time. His family either lived some distance away, were dead, or there had been a family fallout. I agree we should probably look at "customs families".

What are your reasons for concluding Peter Thuljn was most likely Anders' father? Apart from being a customs officer and living in Helsingborg. (Although I like the idea that Anders Peter Thulin got his middle name from his grandfather).

Jonas

In the actual situation without real facts I would contact the local Genealogical Societies.
Here is the first adress to contact, it is for Skåne but there are adresses for Blekinge as well:

http://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Genealogical_Societies_in_Sk%...

They are very helpful people who use to know much more than we do because they are working on data which are not yet published or which we do not know that they exist.

You should contact Carl-Axel Tholin:

Bromölla släktforskarförening
Carl-Axel Tholin
E-mail: carlaxel.tholin@telia.com
Address: Kyrkvägen 19
295 35 Bromölla, Sweden

Carl-Axel most likely knows a lot about the Tholin family and customs inspectors. The Swedish pronunciation for "o" and "u" is very special.
Therefore a Tholin could easily become a Thulin.

There is a Tholin family which stems from Pehr Pehrsson from Carlshamn.
http://runeberg.org/anrep/4/0374.html
They became a noble family in the 1800th century.

In Carlshamn there is also the customs inspector (tullförvaltare) Peter Jakob Tholin with 10 kids in 2 marriages. Some must have survived
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FKGY-T4N
At least one daughter married another customs inspector - I think Hegardt again but there is very little in Geni or MyHeritage about Tholins.

And there is Carl Hack Tholin i Helsingborgs stadsförsamling (Maria) CI:2 (1710-1751) Bild 108/sid 103 who is the son of "sjötullförvaltaren".
No wife mentioned.

I think the best lead is that you contact Carl-Axel Tholin.

Gerhard

Those are awesome tips! Thanks million. I'll reach out to Carl-Axel.

Jonas

Look I found three more Thulin in Allerum at the cantors home, living with the widow Elisabeth Gemzealia

http://luggude.slektforskning.se/wiki/Katekisationsl%C3%A4ngd_1698,...