Oocaneechi Sarah "Sukie" Vann - Oocaneechi Sarah "Sukie" Vann

What information have you been able to locate about her? Can it be added to the profile?

I think it's a mistake. There IS a Vann family (I think also from NC but not sure) which did marry a Native American--well, not the whole family but you know what I mean lol-- but while we may be related to those Vanns I do NOT think this is our line. I have no idea who this "Oocaneechi" Vann is--she might have married some other Vann (I already said that, didn't I?!)-- but I think she's totally unrelated to our Sarah Vann. We may have Native American ancestry from somewhere but I don't think this is it.

I haven't found anything at all about 'Sarah'... yet.

It is a fairly common occurrence, it seems on the internet, where a 'Native American' is supplanted with-in a genealogy without having any source, evidence and/or proof.

If it is true- fine but when if it is speculative, I think a bad idea to present it as 'if' it were in fact, true. Would it not be better to identify Sarah as just Sarah, rather than, Sarah being a Native American on her profile until it can be proven?

I'm all for that and perhaps creating placeholder unknown parents if it's a frequent myth - helps prevent from reoccurring. But do we have anything to cite for the marriage, children, locations? There is a link in the profile but it's "Dead" so for all I know the children belong elsewhere ....

I have so many "Sarah's" in my family tree I constantly confuse them!

This particular Sarah--the one I call "my Sarah"--was the daughter of James Vann and Mary Robinson of Sampson County, NC. The Vanns (when you dig really far back) seem to have originated in Wales, and I am pretty sure the Robinsons came to NC from Scotland. It gets totally bewildering because the families keep using the same given names over and over--it doesn't take much to confuse me, lol, and these families give me fits!!

Mary Susan Newton set this up correctly by making a new "Sarah unknown" profile as wife of William Vann, of Chowan County

Sarah Vann

She has son Edward Vann, Sr., of Chowan County (and descendants) attached

Now i need to know which if any of the other children of William Vann need to be moved over to "Sarah unknown" as mother

Many, many thanks to Patricia and Mary!

- We have a new profile made for Sarah Vann, whose parents are not known. All the children seem to belong to her.

- The "old" Unknown Profile has been disconnected from "this" Vann family; hopefully someone will be able to find her correct family

Now I have a couple more questions.

- the death date for Sarah was the same as her husband's. This seemed unlikely and it's a common mixup, so I left it blank

- so far the only document I've been able to find is not a very good quality one, it is this http://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000025989500847

It has his father as Edward Vann (not John Edward) and born in Nansemond VA.

Does this make sense when compared with the data in John Edward Vann

I just discovered this Sarah is my direct ancestor, so I've been going over the previous comments and looking for additional sources. One thing I found is that the name Oocaneechi attached as part of her first name on some sites shows as the surname for some of her siblings on some sites. More importantly, Oocaneechi is actually a Native American group - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occaneechi.

This leads me to believe that rather than a part of her first name, it indicates which NA group she and her famly were from. ???

There are multiple discussions under this tab and I just realized I've posted in two of them on the same subject of this Sarah's parentage. So you have to read both posts to get all the info. Thanks.

Debbie - see the notes in profile.

“ Notes

Oocaneechi Sarah "Sukie" Vann Was not likely to have been the wife of William Vann according to several Geni Member / researchers. Disconnected May 2014. The dates & locations in this profile are also likely to have been corrupted.

Parents were NOT Powhatan Aka Wrong Wrong Wrong Oocaneechi & Mie Kameoka Caniachkoo Mohawk " Turtle Clan " Oocaneechi (born Wyandanch)”

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As said, Oocaneechi as the possible tribe at least fits the geography. But I wouldn’t allow for parent names without some real citations, and you have to discount Mohawk as being - what, Canada moved to North Carolina?

Mie Kameoka Is in upstate NY as she should be.

Ahhh, I had missed that about those not being her parents until looking at things again this morning. When I came across that info on Wiki last night I hoped I had a clue about her origins.

But keep in mind, I wasn't posting the info to say that was accurate but for further consideration and to generate others like yourself who might have additional info to post. I just came across these folks in my lines and am trying to get a handle on them. Seems like she's a bona fide deadend.