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Fairytales?

Started by Ashley Ann Tarr on Thursday, June 5, 2014

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Ashley Ann Tarr

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Justin Durand

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Harald Tveit Alvestrand

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Elna Kirstine Plougmann

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Ashley Ann Tarr

6/5/2014 at 1:35 AM

Right, got really excited when I went on my PRO trial and found I had ancestors going back to just after the birth of Chirst only to discover that my direct decedents also include Boudicca, various Kings of Europe, Beowulf & Noah!!! How disappointing! At what point in my tree can I have faith that the information is correct and not just fairytales? Seems totally absurd that I could add Little Red Riding Hood and her grandmother (and probably the wolf aswell!!!) to my tree and it's taken as bona fide. I am no expert at geneology and this has always been a bit of fun, but to have stuff like that in my chart completely cancels out the integrity of the project. I know curators can't totally control 70 million profiles, but surely there should be some element of verification and source to be able to put these profiles in?

Justin Durand

6/5/2014 at 12:02 PM

There are no western European lines proved before about the 7th century, but that doesn't stop new users from adding them. Old users break the connections. New users put them back. An endless cycle, frustrating for both sides.

Harald Tveit Alvestrand C

6/5/2014 at 12:26 PM

Many of these are, of course, well documented stories. People wrote them down near the beginning of the adoption of writing in northern Europe, and claimed that they were facts.

Some of them seem improbable enough that we don't credit them any more; we usually credit some part of them, and then stop crediting them at some point.

It's important to discuss where we stop believing. The first step is to get pepole to say why they believe what they are adding - what their sources are.

After we know the sources, it becomes easier to have the discussion.

Private User

6/5/2014 at 1:18 PM

Elna Kirstine Plougmann PRO

6/6/2014 at 4:16 AM

The bible is a source, used on Geni

Elna Kirstine Plougmann PRO

6/6/2014 at 4:44 AM

Are you not happy, the way Geni works?

Elna Kirstine Plougmann PRO

8/27/2014 at 1:14 PM

Silence

Private User

8/28/2014 at 8:23 AM

You can always just ignore anything you don't like.

8/28/2014 at 10:00 AM

Sure, but just ignoring what we don't like doesn't really make it go away.

Justin Durand

8/28/2014 at 10:14 AM

It takes a lot of time and effort to clean up all those legendary lines. As Harald says above, someone has to look at the sources and find the actual problems, not just start cutting away anything you don't like.

Even if the profiles are properly sourced, if they aren't locked new users will try as hard as they can to re-connect them.

Harald Tveit Alvestrand C

8/28/2014 at 10:24 AM

Elna Kirstine Plougmann I'm happy. At least much happier than I would be if there was no Geni!

And every day there's the hope that things might become better.

Erica Howton C

8/28/2014 at 3:57 PM

I am delighted with the Geni tree and there's plenty of ways members can help.

- For UN connected "joke" public profiles, profile view > actions menu > report > fake profile. Geni Customer Support takes action from there; this is not a curator function

- For connected to the big tree "fictional" profiles (excluding the Bible which is a separate project, please), raise a discussion from the profile explaining exactly what should be done ("disconnect from unproven parents") and why

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