Delaphena Clark - Thoughts for further research on a New York Clark family?

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10/15/2015 at 11:28 AM

Roger Marshall Rohm had written me:

"I suspect my Clark relatives came from Rhode Island through Connecticut and then to NY ..."

Tagging Private User in particular.

Private User
10/15/2015 at 2:30 PM
10/15/2015 at 3:02 PM

I don't think it is. Interestingly that tree does not include John W Clark which is Roger's line.

Delaphena's & Sarah's parents are given, with no parents, as

Richard Clark
B 1795 England
D 1850 New York

And
Susan Quereau
B 1798 New York
D 1972 New York

The wife perhaps having a name that can be worked with, unlike the godawful Clark. :):)

Private User
10/15/2015 at 3:40 PM

That tree, that is not Roger's, as you noted above, shows Richard as being born in England. So I was wondering if he has more information on that?

10/15/2015 at 3:42 PM

I just uploaded a genealogy that was copied from a hand written book. It is possible that Quereau is the name I couldn't read.

See what you think

10/15/2015 at 3:46 PM

The information about the Rhode island origin I am going on is what was passed down verbally and may be merged with other family from early New England. Facts may differ significantly form the myth.

10/15/2015 at 4:07 PM

To make sure we're in the same family

The ancestry tree has Delaphene Clark married to John Polhamus (1810-1877), that being a surname we New Yorkers should find familiar.

Here's her FindAGrave page

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=24213162

If that's harmonious with your records, I think we should be looking at Polhamus records.

Similarly, sister Sarah Jane married Andrew Mitchell (b abt 1822); the widow Susan Clark can be found in their household in 1855 NY State Census.

10/15/2015 at 4:09 PM

Verbal history/myth has John W Clark in California during the gold rush and joining the union army to get passage back to the east coast.

10/15/2015 at 4:19 PM

John Polhamus was a silversmith & watchmaker. His patterns are still available. :).

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~silversmiths/make...

http://www.smpub.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000322.html

10/15/2015 at 4:26 PM

Now i was curious about the Quereau name, and google gives me this (perhaps not at all relevant)

http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/anderson/pats?raw=1

Jonathon ANDERSON b Dec 25 1745 Greenwich CT, d Jan 15 1809 Granville, NS Canada, m ca 1763 Mary LNU

Isaac ANDERSON b Feb 14 1764 NY, d May 28 1837 Granville, NS Canada, m Judith QUEREAU Aug 15 1818 Granville, NS Canada

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In other words, I see a Connecticut Tory family relocating to Canada and marrying a local Nova Scotia family.

10/15/2015 at 4:28 PM

Erica, It sounds like we are on to something here...

Private User
10/15/2015 at 4:56 PM

Susan Clark was also in the Polhamus household as Mother In Law in the 1860 and 1870 Census records.

10/15/2015 at 5:05 PM

Many thanks to Erica and Christine for all the help..

10/15/2015 at 5:52 PM

And that's a bingo on my guess for the top of the tree couple here

http://photos.geni.com/p13/f7/93/f4/65/5344483e90578710/img025_orig...

Hannah Seaman
Birth:  5 May 1757 - Orange, USA
Marriage:  27 Nov 1772 - New York, USA
Death:  Haverstraw, Rockland, New York, USA
Spouse:  Joshua Quereau

I want you to know that's an image from 1819, how's that for family records. I'm lucky if I got 1975.

Private User
10/15/2015 at 5:57 PM

Damn that girl is good!

10/15/2015 at 6:01 PM

This tree has no family for Hannah Seaman, but she's got to be around here somewhere, maybe she's this one called "Ann"

Ann Seaman

this tree http://person.ancestry.com/tree/10126033/person/-691002555/facts has

Joshua Quereau (1753-1806)

Son of

Joshua Quereau & Judith Quantine (no dates)

Looks based on the old One World tree so grains of salt; I had no luck finding the Seaman / Quereau marriage in records so far

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rbillard/ny_marriage_licens...

Marriage Licenses Issued by the State of New York - sorted by date
(1639-1784)

10/15/2015 at 6:07 PM

No guarantees this is the right Joshua Quereau

10/15/2015 at 6:13 PM

And more salt but enough to start looking at books

http://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/josue-quereau_4784077

Josue Quereau
Born in France on 1692. Josue married Judith Quentin and had 8 children. He passed away in New York City.

Children
Elias Quereau
1722-1822
Joshua Quereau
1724-Unknown
Elizabeth Quereau
1726-Unknown
John Quereau
1727-Unknown
Benjamin Quereau
1729-1779
Frances Quereau
1732-Unknown
Jane Quereau
1739-1835
Isaac Quereau
1741-1782

Private User
10/15/2015 at 6:18 PM

Is this the family somehow? Same names and geographical location - Peekskill.

https://books.google.com/books?id=duuwAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA488&lpg...

Private User
10/15/2015 at 6:22 PM
10/15/2015 at 6:45 PM

Son Elias will info

https://books.google.com/books?id=FhwXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA416&lpg...

"the widow Anne was then Anne Johnson" 1765 (Mrs John Johnson)

Private User
10/15/2015 at 7:35 PM

So do we know if Joshua who married Seaman, is the son of Elias or Joshua Jr? According to Judith's will, she names two Joshua's.

10/15/2015 at 8:46 PM

That's exactly the question now.

We have to be careful: look like there were 2 Joshua Quereau's of this generation. 1 died 1839 in Granville NS (the Tory).  The other died 1806 in Peekskill.  Probably cousins. Not sons (as they "also" had sons).

https://archive.org/stream/cu31924028897639#page/n282/mode/1up

John Polhemus was connected by marriage with the family of Potters.  Joshua Quereau was a New York Loyalist, and probably of Huguenot origin.

Also see results of a search on the name Quereau in the google book version of the same text, "History of the County of Annapolis: Including Old Port Royal and Acadia ..." By William Arthur Calnek.

(which is supposed to be the excellent tracing for Nova Scotia)
https://books.google.com/books?id=L_QOAAAAYAAJ&q=Quereau#v=snip...

10/15/2015 at 8:55 PM

Well how do you like that - Judith was English

http://www.lcgsfl.org/detail/libraryRecordDetail.php?id=5883
Resource Information:
Title: Quereau Genealogy: Descendants of Josue Quereau and Judith Smith., 1928.
Author: Aymar, Benjamin

10/15/2015 at 8:58 PM

http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.immigration.us.hugenot/19/mb.ashx

I was wondering if anyone knows if these surnames are Huguenot? They came to America and settled in New Rochelle, New York. Josue Quereau married Judith Quantin, daughter of Isaac Quantin (also spelled Quantein) and Francoise. Josue and Judith were born abt. 1700, since their son, Joshua, was born in 1720/1. Isaac was listed in town records of New Rochelle in the early 1660s.

Re: QUEREAU & QUANTIN: 1660s-1720s New Rochelle, NY
mama6292X (View posts)
Posted: 12 Jun 2012 11:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
Kathy, try to find the benjamin AYMAR genealogy written in 1928.

Re: QUEREAU & QUANTIN: 1660s-1720s New Rochelle, NY
bernard garcia (View posts)

Posted: 7 Nov 2013 10:21AM GMT
Classification: Query
Isaac quantin[Cantin/quentin]came from Medis/ charente maritime...Immigration around 1700 because of protestant faith....could be track to T Roosevelt ancestry....

10/15/2015 at 9:12 PM

This site is not sure but believes

Joshua the Tory, AKA Jacobus, (b 1753) - son of Elias & Ann (Horton) Quereau Johnson. Married Sarah Travis 1773 in NYC

http://www.jedh.com/src/genealogy/Full07a-p/p145.htm#i7239

So - we would have to find the children of Benjamin & Isaac, the other sons of Judith & Josue.

10/15/2015 at 9:21 PM

... And here they would be along with a van Beuren to look after them ...

Benjamin Quereau

Private User I think we're ready to expand your tree and & join Roger Marshall Rohm to the family, which is looking a little Rooseveltian?

10/15/2015 at 9:32 PM

... And it's this benjamin according to FamilySearch

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/4:1:KZWM-HGG
Birth name: Joshua Quereau
Gender: Male
Birth: Aug 24 1755
 New York City, New York, New York

Son of

Benjamin Quereau
Birth names: Benjamin Quereaux
Benjamin Quereau
Gender: Male
Birth: 1729
 of New Rochelle, Wester, N.Y.
Marriage: Spouse: Hannah Brown
Jan 27 1753
 Trinity Church Parish,New York,New York,New York
Death: 1779
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/4:1:KD3B-B1K

Son of
Parents: Judith Quereau (born Cantine), Joshua Quereau

10/16/2015 at 9:37 AM

wow I can hardly keep up with the work you are doing....A point of interest, my brother Russell has been living in New Rochelle for the past 20 years or so.

This did not go where I thought it would but it's exciting to find all these relations.

I did not know I had so many French connections...pun intended...My 3X great grandfather Henry Silberhorn was from Strasbourg. My 3X great grandfather Aaron Soria is from Bordeaux...and now more French ancestors...

What I was told as a child about where the family came from is quite different from the actual facts...

10/16/2015 at 9:48 AM

Yes, this was pretty amazing & fascinating: a great uncle master silversmith!

Now we have not yet looked into Qurereau origins in detail -- we need to get the Geni tree up to date with profile entry and include the source data - but when thinking about origins, don't forget the Huguenot's were not necessarily French (from France) or all French.

This article about a famous settlement up the Hudson Valley from Peekskill describes it:

http://www.hvmag.com/Hudson-Valley-Magazine/May-2013/History-of-the...

What is a Huguenot?
Huguenot: It’s fun to say, hard to spell, and mysterious in origin. According to the National Huguenot Society, the word may be a combination of Flemish and German, and describes Protestants who met to study the Bible in secret; they were called Huis Genooten, meaning “house fellows”

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