Cornelia Jacobs Jacobsz van de Caap, SM - Incorrect mother?

Cornelia Jacobs

The only info I can find that links Cornelia Jacobs with a mother named Dorothea van Angola is http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g6/p6804.htm .

However her baptismal entry reads:
Den 27 Maart [1672]
Een Comp' slavinne kint zynde de vader een onbekent
christen wiert genaamt Cornelia tot getuyge stont Alexander [alz]
Carpius schoolmeester

No mention is made to her mother being Dorothea van Angola. Is this connection made via another document?

Also I am struggling to figure out why this Cornelia baptised 1672 is said to be the same person as Cornelia Jacobs who was the mother of Maria Petronella Langeveld born ca 1720. (Above-mentioned Cornelia would have been nearly 50 then - seems somewhat unlikely?)

Will be very happy if someone has info to clarify this please! ☺

Maria Petronella Langeveld

Check again: den 27 Maart
een Comp' slavinne kint zynde de vader een onbekent christen de moeder Dorethe, wiert genaamt Cornelia tot getuyge stont Alexander alz Carpius schoolmeester,

http://e-family.co.za/ffy/g8/p8127.htm

And for this profile which you incorrectly suggest above is Maria Jacobsz:
http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g6/p6804.htm
Den 8 Septemb' een Comp' slavinne kint synde de vader een onbekent Christen. de Moeder een Angooler [katburinne] genaamt Dorothe des kints naam Cecilia en was over 't selve weggens de comp' als getuyge de Luijten[ ] Dirck Jansz Smient,

Correct transcription of the last: ao' 1675
Den 8 Septemb'
een Comp' slavinne kint synde de vader een onbekent Christen. de moeder een Angoolsr[...] Kaffarinne genaamt Dorothe des kints naam Cecilia en wa\[s\] over 't selve weggens de Comp' als getuyghe de Luijten[...] Dirck Jansz Smient

Am I wrong Em Lo if I say the correct wife of the Jacobs Prog. was proven by DNA research you and Jaco Strauss did that you were rewarded a GSSA prize for.
I am totally confused now and asked Sharon to curate.
Delia Robertson Thank you for helping us clear this out.
Juds

Thanks very much for the clarification Delia. I copied and saved the baptismal detail from eGGSA some time ago, had not considered it may get updated - it sure has. I will be mindful to check for such in future, thanks.

I see unfortunately it does not mention in the 1672 baptism that Cornelia's mother Dorothe was from Angola as it does in the 1675 baptism of Cecilia. It's a piity, since that would have made it clear that this is indeed the same Dorothe. I always worry about saying someone is definitely the same person as someone else, just because names are similar. This is not always correct.

Did you find this particular Dorothe who was Cornelia's mother mentioned as being from Angola in any other document or is it assumed she is the same person who baptised Cecilia in 1675??

I am not involved with a Maria Jacobs, but Cornelia Jacobs, the mother of Maria Petronella Langeveld. I see her correct web page reference is http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g8/p8127.htm - you say she is the same Cornelia whose baptism took place on 27 March 1672 - as discussed above.

Re her multiple aliases - you say this particular Cornelia van die Kaap baptised 27/3/1672 was also called Keetje van die Kaap, Cornelia Pietersz and Cornelia Jacobs. I accept you have spent some time coming to this decision, so will appreciate if you can explain in a bit more detail. How can you be sure these are all one and the same person and not multiple people?

What evidence exists that this Cornelia baptised 27/3/1672 was indeed the mother of Maria Petronella Langeveld born 1719 - when this Cornelia was already close to 50 years old then??? It seems so unlikely to me...?? I am very keen to know what evidence links this particular Cornelia baptised 1772 to being Maria Petronella Langeveld's mother.

I see you link her to a partner called Pieter Jacobsz b 1700. Is this Pieter Jacobsz Langeveld (the children carrying the Langeveld surname)? According to SAG their father was likely Pieter Pietersz Langeveld and their mother Cormelia Jacobs, but I have not yet found any documentation re this Jacobs-Langeveld union. So will be happy to learn more about your link to Pieter Jacobsz.

Hi Judi, just saw your post. Our research was on Adolph Jonker's ancestry not his wife Maria Petronella Langeveld's. I have worked on the latter on and off since then but keep having difficulty identifying with certainty which Cornelia born at the Cape was Maria Petronella Langeveld's mother. The Cornelia baptised 1672 looks the wrong age to me and I can not find a clear link between her and Maria Petronella Langeveld. So will appreciate Delia's participation in clarifying and nutting this out.

Really useful stuff here. Thank you both.