Gaspard Bourbon Comtée - Sources for Gaspard

Started by Private User on Sunday, July 2, 2017
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Private User
7/2/2017 at 7:48 AM

Gaspard is in No sources anywhere! Should we be adding him! I'd like to know where he came from in the first place! My mother's cousin had started and did our family on the Hebert and Broussard sides years ago and I hate to see it being messed up my unsourced people. It's on hundreds of family trees now! It's going to be hard to find with No records! Hopefully DNA can correct it if it's wrong! That picture of Gaspard is not Gaspard. It's Gaspard Coligny!

7/28/2017 at 4:45 PM

i agree. he is on my family tree, but sources list his mother as Eleonore de Roucy, and there is NO record of her having a son named Gaspard.
The only record of him that I can find is a reference in the peerage papers for him and lists his DOB as the 1800's. So, not the same person.
http://www.thepeerage.com/p10050.htm#i100498
My Question though, is where did he come from and who is his daighter Helene od Comtee, whoo is also listed as his daughter and a direct ancestor in my tree.

7/29/2017 at 9:05 AM

I have "notes" for a Gaspard de Bourbon Comtée born abt 1558 at Martaizé, Vienne, France; son of Louis de Borbon 1530-1569; father of Hélèn Comtée Bourg. Is there any link between this Garpard and the one in your discussion?

Private User
9/24/2017 at 7:30 AM

Joe what kind of Notes are you talking about?

10/4/2017 at 12:44 AM

My wife is tracing my son-in-law's tree, which is crowded with French nobility. Gaspard shows up as an ancestor. Brother Francois also born 1585. Wikipedia shows no Gaspard born to Louis. Another reference stated hi existence needs to be called into question. Any thoughts?

12/21/2017 at 6:08 PM

French aristocravy pedigree does not confirm Any of this

2/3/2018 at 11:18 PM

There is no record in the peerage papers of a Gaspard Bourbon. He, his wife and Helene Comte would have been born in France, so any records would source from there. Helene is the only one of that group that came to North America., supposed daughter of Gaspard supposed son of Loius of Bourbon, doesn't have any source support for the connection of father /son in the official French Aristocracy rolls. Louis didn't have a son named Gaspard. There IS a Gaspard of Coligny, advisor to Charles the IX in 1519-1572, but he did not have any offspring named Helene.

Louis of Bourbon's issue include:
Henri de Bourbon, Prince of Condé[1]
Marguerite de Bourbon b. 8 Nov 1556
Charles de Bourbon b. 3 Nov 1557
François de Bourbon, Prince of Conti b. 19 Aug 1558[1]
Charles de Bourbon, Cardinal, Archbishop of Rouen, b. 30 Mar 1562[1]
Louis de Bourbon b. 30 Mar 1562
Madeleine de Bourbon b. 7 Oct 1563
Catherine de Bourbon b. 1564
On 8 Nov 1565 he married Francoise d'Orleans, Mademoiselle de Longueville,[1] they had:

Charles de Bourbon, Count of Soissons b. 3 Nov 1566, Nogent le Rotrou[1]
Louis de Bourbon b. 1567
Benjamin de Bourbon b. 1569

Private User
2/4/2018 at 2:18 AM

You find the same problem that you'll discuss here too.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/De_Bourbon_Comtee-1

Private User
11/10/2018 at 8:52 AM

Seen that already before, just can't find the sources.

Private User
11/21/2018 at 8:00 PM

Still doesn't tell us who Gaspard is!

12/3/2018 at 12:56 PM

@Francois Gaspard de Bourbon.
it seems to be this person:
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10/11/2023 at 11:56 AM

Forwarding note from Miss. Elizabeth Joanne FLETCHER

Managers of dubious, no record: Gaspasrd François Gaspard de Bourbon-Comtée,

I am contacting you about this profile: https://www.geni.com/people/dubious-no-record-Fran%C3%A7ois-Gaspard...

This fellow is a member of the Bourbon Dynasty of France. He is actually a member of the Cadet Conti branch according to Genealogyindex.cz = http://w.genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet41.html (person ID = A3

He is listed in the pedigree of a distant cousin of mine who shares Powhatan Indigenous Ancestry with me that I have proven via MyHeritage DNA. The MyHeritage Site is White LeBlanc Cater

Praying that this is the right person.

Familysearch FSID = G9D7-K86

Sincerely,

Miss. Elizabeth Joanne Humay

 dubious, no record: Gaspasrd François Gaspard de Bourbon-Comtée
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