Agnes Hamby - Problematical Placement

Started by Private User on Sunday, April 8, 2018
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People up to and including Wikipedia have been assuming that she married Sir Richard Reade, Lord Chancellor of Ireland - but apparently she did not. And neither was she his mother.

Agnes Reade, nee Hamby, wrote her will about 19 April 1537, describing herself as a "widow". She was dead herself by 8 May 1537. Sir Richard Reade, Lord Chancellor's dates were (c.) 1511-1575, so she certainly was not *his* widow.

She was the daughter of George Hamby and his first wife (probably Margaret Cutler), so must have been born early in the 1500s herself (c. 1500-1505), making it impossible for her to be the mother of Sir Richard Reade (and besides, his father supposedly survived to 1555).

Apparently, a Reade family in Lincolnshire had somehow become confused with the Reade family of Hampshire and Hertfordshire (easier to do when no one bothers to look at a map!)

Per some fairly extensive research, Agnes actually married a Richard Reade of Wrangle, Lincolnshire, a widower with three sons and a daughter (and none of those sons was a Richard): https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ann%...

Agnes and Richard *did* have a son Richard, but he wasn't the Lord Chancellor of Ireland - he was much too young, still underage when he was left a double orphan.

Agnes' will, found here https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ann%... enumerates her children and includes bequests to each of them, as well as to her (presdumably half-)sister Ann Dale.

1. Richard Reade b: ABT 1525
2. Andrew Reade b: ABT 1527
3. Francis Reade b: ABT 1529 in England
4. Robert Reade b: ABT 1531
5. Agnes Reade b: ABT 1533
6. Elizabeth Reade b: ABT 1535

Francis' daughter Elizabeth married her cousin Edward Hamby (grandson of George Hamby and second wife, probably Margaret Green).

Got the mess unscrambled and appropriate children added to the Lord Chancellor profile. Everyone take note and DON'T try to reconnect him to the Hambys!

Nobody paid any attention, so now we may have at least FOUR Richard Reades to unscramble:

1) SIR Richard Reade, Lord Chancellor of Ireland, who married ANNE TREGONWELL - NOT Agnes Hamby, NOT Jane Rudhall, and had four sons, of which Innocent was the eldest and heir, plus at least one daughter;

2) Richard Reade of Wrangle, who DID marry Agnes Hamby - but was a widower with children when he did so;

3) Richard Reade of Gloucestershire, who married Jane Rudhall.

4) Richard(?) Reade of Wales, whose daughter Anne married Anthony Dillington, MP https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/d...

Okay. Take this bit of tree: Anne Verch Reade and mark it as duplicates to be deleted.

Significant improvement, but this profile Richard Reade needs a distinguisher "of Boddington" or "of Gloucestershire" to keep him from being tangled up with all the other Richard Reades - again.

Merge or mark for deletion: Richard Reade and offspring.

Since my primary interest is the Hambys, I'll be back to work on them shortly....

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