The REAL Moytoy

Started by Linda (Carr) Buchholz, Kit # FW864102C1 on Monday, July 9, 2018
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11/29/2018 at 5:11 AM

It’s hard to know who any of these people are meant to be since most are made up. A white trader named John Watts had a son also named John by a sister of Doublehead. The son was known as “Young Tassel” and was the leader of the Chickamauga faction after the death of Dragging Canoe. Jim Hicks thinks the younger man was married to a daughter of Hanging Maw, but no evidence to support the wife’s name or parents. The younger Watts may have had multiple wives and children, but the only known child is a son also named John Watts. No son named Eli.

11/29/2018 at 5:28 AM

Brown's "Old Frontiers" gives the name of the man involved in the Brown incident as "Kiachatalee." I don't think the names of Kiachatalee's parents are known and I don't think there's any evidence that he is the same man as Kitegista, the brother of Oconostota. It's unclear what relation he had to Tom Tunbridge. At that time "step-son" often meant 'Son-in-law" and Jim Hicks suggests that's the case here, The account in "Old Frontiers" suggests that Tunbridge's wife was Kiachatalee's mother. As always, we're discussing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin here. None of these people has any known modern descendants.

11/29/2018 at 9:25 AM

Maybe Hicks didn’t read the first hand accounts:).

In 1788 Kiachatalee has no wife mentioned and his “parents” are Polly Mallett, and her husband was Tom Tunbridge; the captive Joseph Brown is a present for his “mother.” I suspect Kiachatalee was the “nephew” the Breath of Nickajack took to his meeting of the chiefs with Gov Blount. Brown was “adopted” by the Breath, which didn’t stop him from guiding the Americans to Nickajack village in 1794, and helping to destroy it.

Sad history.

1/1/2020 at 1:42 AM

Lila Lindberg I have also deleted my file on Moytoy.sad that people are so irresponsible

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