Who did Elizabeth DORE marry?

Started by Leanne M (Volunteer Curator - Australia) 🇦🇺 on Thursday, September 27, 2018
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Elizabeth "Betsy" (Dore) Hewitt / Gray, Free Settler "Adventure" 1833 is on Geni with
* born 12/10/1823 Ireland
* died 6/12/1910 Australia
* father John (O'Dore) Dore, Free Settler "Adventure" 1833 (1782-1852)
* mother Johanna (Shine) Fox - Dore, Free Settler "Adventure" 1833 (1797-1876)
Husband 1 married 25/10/1839 Thomas Hewitt (1815-1858) with children
* 1840 Mary Hewitt
* 1841 Thomas George Hewitt
* 1843 John Hewitt
* 1845 Dorothy Hewitt
* 1848 Margaret Dorothy Hewitt
* 1852 Daniel George Hewitt
* 1855 Johanna Gray
Husband 2 married 18/7/1868 William James Gray, Snr (1800-1879) with children
* 1861 Elizabeth Mary Sherwood
* 1861 Annie Maria Dowd
* 1863 George William Gray
* 1866 Patrick Gray
* 1869 Henry ("John") John Gray
* 1872 Charles Leslie Gray
* 1887 William James Gray, Jnr
Husband 3 married 1881 Philip Makepeace, Marine "The Norfolk" 1836 + Free Settler "Eucalyptus" 1852 (1818-1883) with no children

There is some debate as to whether Elizabeth married 3 times - particularly as the 3rd marriage was in 1881 but she had a child to husband 2 6 years later.

Can anyone add any supporting information on Elizabeth, her husbands and children?

https://www.geni.com/images/missing_image.png
Has William GRAY (widower age 48, son of James GREY and Elizabeth McALISTER) marrying Elizabeth HEWITT (widow age 43, daughter of John DORE and Joanna SHINE) on 18/7/1868

https://media.geni.com/p13/00/39/9c/f4/53444843a2747c6e/mik32_origi...

Has Elizabeth GRAY dying on 6/12/1910 at Redfern, age 87
Father - John DORE
Mother - Johanna FOX
Witnesses - Daniel HEWITT and G GRAY
Spouses - Thomas HEWITT and William GRAY
Children
From HEWITT
* Daniel 58
* 2 males deceased
* 2 females deceased
From GRAY
* William 52
* Elizabeth 49
* Annie 47
* George 45
* Thomas 42
* John 37
* Charles 35
* 2 males deceased

Discrepancies between her death certificate and Geni
Death Cert - She had 5 children to HEWITT - 3 boys (1 alive, 2 deceased) + 2 girls (deceased)
Geni has 7 children
3 boys - 2 alive + 1 deceased
* Thomas George 1841-1915 - therefore alive in 1910
* John 1843-1866 - therefore deceased in 1910
* Daniel Geoge 1852-1929 - therefore alive in 1910
4 girls - 2 deceased and 2 unknown
* Mary born 1840
* Dorothy 1845-1847 - therefore deceased in 1910
* Margaret Dorothy 1848
* Johannah 1855-1939 - therefore alive in 1910

She had 9 children to GRAY - 7 males (5 alive, 2 deceased) + 2 girls (alive)
Geni has 5 males (4 alive, 1 deceased)
Males
* George 1863-1936 - therefore alive in 1910
* Patrick 1866-1909 - therefore deceased in 1909
* Henry John 1869-1944 - therefore alive in 1910
* Charles Leslie 1872-1944 - therefore alive in 1910
* William James 1887-1918 - therefore alive in 1910
Geni has 2 girls (alive)
* Elizabeth 1861-1947 - therefore alive in 1910
* Annie 1861-1955 - therefore alive in 1910

Son William James GRAY is aged 52 in 1910 - therefore would be born 1858 - In Geni has born 1887 (29 years difference)

Can anyone add any supporting information on these differences

https://media.geni.com/p13/0e/8b/19/9e/534448492ec037cc/marriage_18...

Phillip MAKEPEACE married Elizabeth GRAY in 1881 at Walgett, NSW

Sorry forgot to mention above
If William James GRAY Jnr was born in 1887, his mother would have been 63 years old when she had him

https://media.geni.com/p13/fe/e9/3a/6f/534448492eadeb2c/birth_1858_...

William J GRAY born 1858 Parramatta to William GRAY and Elizabeth

https://australianroyalty.net.au/individual.php?pid=I15786&ged=...

Elizabeth DORE married
1) Thomas HEWITT 1839 (who died 1858)
2) William GRAY 1868 (who died 1879)
3) Philip MAKEPEACE 1881

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-293057911-1-528039/eli...
Elizabeth GRAY wife of Philip MAKEPEACE died 1949 Wyong

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-374864471-1-500153/eli...
Elizabeth GREY wife of Philip MAKEPEACE died 1910 Sydney

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-341006861-1-500361/eli...
Elizabeth DORE married William GRAY and Phillip MAKEPEACE died 1910 Redfern

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-8275011-6-238/elizabet...
Elizabeth GRAY wife of Philip MAKEPEACE died 1949 Wyong, NSW

Philip MAKEPEACE died 7/11/1883

To the Widow and next of Kin of PHILIP MAKEPEACE, late of Walgett. in the colony of New South Wales, Brickmaker, deceased, intestate. WHEREAS it has been represented to us in our Supreme Court of New South Wales, that the said PHILIP MAKEPEACE departed this life on or about the seventh day of November, one thousand eight hundred and eighty-three, intestate, having at the time of his death goods, chattels, credit, and effects within the said colony. We hereby cite you to appear personally, or by your Proctor, before our said Court, at the Courthouse. King-street, Sydney, on or before the twelfth day of December next, then and there to accept or refuse Letters of Administration of the goods, chattels, credits, and effects of the said deceased, or to show cause, if you have any, why the same should not be committed to ROBERT EMERALD TUITE, of Walgett aforesaid, Butcher, a creditor of the said deceased. Witness the Honorable Sir James Martin, Knight, Chief Justice of our said Supreme Court at Sydney, this twenty-seventh day of November, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and eighty-three.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/18117587

Elizabeth MAKEPEACE who died 2/6/1949 aged 81 at Toukley was the wife of W MAKEPEACE and mother of Lizzie, Alice, Bill, Tod, Phoebe, Ethel. Sister of Phoebe STAPLETON.

10/1/2018 at 9:23 PM

Leanne, I have noted my error re William James Gray's birth date. Thank you for finding this error. I have added his family (descendants) in Geni.

10/24/2018 at 7:01 PM

Hi,

I just found a newspaper report for death of Phillip Makepeace in 1883. I have attached the article to his profile.

The article does imply that they do not know if Phillip was married or not.

I have had another look at Elizabeth's children. 2 of them did indeed marry in Walgett in 1880 and 1881 (Eliz jnr and Annie) so my Elizabeth was most likely in Walgett during the suggested marriage. (assuming my info about children is correct)

Therefore the marriage could have taken place between Phillip and my Elizabeth

Thomas George Hewitt who was on Geni as a son of Thomas HEWITT and Elizabeth DORE is the only child of Thomas Hewitt and Elizabeth Hewitt

10/25/2018 at 2:55 PM

Hi,

Got rid of Thomas George Hewitt as a son. Noticed my mistake earlier today/last night.

Also got rid of Johanna

10/25/2018 at 3:02 PM

I have added Thomas Gray born c 1868 based on mother`s death certificate, but could not find a birth record.

10/26/2018 at 7:42 PM

Okay, Elizabeth Gray (Dore) was definitely in Walgett in 1881 as her daughter Elizabeth Ann Gray married Simon Sherwood "in tent of brides mother"

Note: 1881/5174, on 18 November 1881 at "Brickfield", Walgett, New South Wales, of Elizabeth Ann Gray, spinster, 22, housekeeper, of Walgett, born at Broken Bay, New South Wales, with Simon Sherwood, bachelor, farmer, 32, of Walgett, and born at Windsor, New South Wales. Married in the "Tent of the Bride's Mother"

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