Elizabeth Williams (Weeks) - Who does this Elizabeth Weeks belong to? And who is the correct spouse? Who are her parents?

Started by Private User on Friday, December 28, 2018
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Private User
12/28/2018 at 2:31 PM

Elizabeth Weeks b. 1653, Dorchester, daughter of William Weeks and Elizabeth Unknown is attached to two different men with overlapping marriages and child-bearing.

Is this Elizabeth the one who was called of Worcester, who married Charles Williams, Sr. also called of Worchester in January 1686/7. She is called "kinswoman" in the will of William Weeks, son of Ammiel, b. c1655 in Dorchester. Per Jacobus in TAG, William left Elizabeth, the wife of Charles Williams, his estate after the use of his wife Joan who died months after William. William moved west from Dorchester to the Northfield area land grants but removed to Enfield, where he died in 1690, aged 60 years (meaning William Weeks was born 1630ish - I cannot find records for this statement or TAG) https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Family:Charles_Williams_and_Elizabeth...

Is this Elizabeth the one who married in 1694, Terence Henley in Boston and who baptized her children in the South Church of Boston in 1695-1703? Per Torrey's New England Marriages, his source for this marriage is the genealogy of Leonard Weeks of New Hampshire. I cannot find this connection. https://books.google.com/books?id=mOgK8dM9qqUC&pg=PA365&dq=...

Is this Elizabeth the daughter of Ammiel Weeks born c1657 in Dorchester? She is often named as the 2nd wife of Timothy Mather, but his 2nd wife, named Elizabeth Weeks was age 79 per the gravestone on her death date of 10 Feb 1710 in Dorchester, making her too old to be born 1653 or 1657.

The Dorchester First Church Records show that there was an Elizabeth Weeks who was requested to come before the Church on account of fornication before marriage in March 1679. Could this have been the impetus for Elizabeth to go to Worcester to marry Charles Williams? https://books.google.com/books?id=LfwGAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA108&lpg...

Any ideas? Discussions? Options? Elizabeth Weeks Williams had children into 1703, and she would have been 50. Late marriage because of church casting out? Elizabeth Weeks Henley marrying Terence Henley in her mid 40's and having children also to about 1703? Thanks!

12/28/2018 at 4:31 PM

It’s looking like two different Elizabeth Weeks & also two different Terence Henley’s. (?) Do you have a link to Terence Henley children ?

Private User
12/29/2018 at 7:22 PM

I have the following children with links to Boston Church and Thwing Collection for marriage and births:

Charles, 1695 https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/boston-ma-inhabitants-a...

Nathaniel, baptized 3 May 1697.https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/boston-ma-church-record...=

John, baptized 2 May 1698 https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/boston-ma-church-record...

Elisabeth, baptized 28 Aug 1699 https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/boston-ma-church-record...=

Experience, baptized 11 May 1700 https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/boston-ma-church-record...=

Jabesh, baptized 7 Jun 1702 https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/boston-ma-church-record...=

Private User
12/29/2018 at 7:26 PM

The marriages of the children are documented in The Records Relating to Early Boston - https://archive.org/stream/recordsrelating00commgoog/recordsrelatin...

12/29/2018 at 9:25 PM

My suggested solution is for you to make a separate Elizabeth Weeks b 1653 profile married to Terence Henley, and you can cross link in the “abouts.” If it proves out they are the same, they can be merged.

The current configuration makes you uncomfortable and I think that should be respected: it stops tree development.

Private User
12/30/2018 at 8:44 PM

Erica Howton Good idea. Will do. Thanks.

Private User
1/18/2019 at 12:11 PM

Erica Howton I completed the process of creating a new Elisabeth Weeks, wife of Terrence Henley. Can you disconnect Elizabeth Williams from Terrence Henley as they are separate people with children born at the same time, but in different geographical locations. Thank you!

Elisabeth Henley

1/18/2019 at 12:57 PM

Done.

Private User
1/18/2019 at 1:05 PM

Thank you so much Erica Howton

11/8/2020 at 10:56 AM

I put together some information on this topic as I am trying to solve the same puzzle. Her it is.

Torrey’s “New England Marriages Prior to 1700” has on pg.818: Williams, Charles (-1740),ae 88, Worcester & Elizabeth WEEKS (-1725), Worcester, 11 Jan 1686; Marlboro/Hadley/Middlesex.

George E. Williams in “Genealogy of Some of the Descendants of William Williams of Salem, Mass.” states that Charles Williams married (1) at Marlborough, Mass., January 11, 1686, Elizabeth Weeks, who died at Colchester, January 13, 1728, daughter of William Weeks of Worcester, Mass. It also states Charles and his father-in-law William Weeks helped in the second settlement of Worcester, Mass. Notice death date given here for Elizabeth is different than the one given by Torrey 1725/1728. Who is this William Weeks?

Philip M. Smith in TAG 17:191 states William Weeks of Enfield, 1690, left property to Elizabeth wife of Charles Williams, his kinswoman. William Weeks died at Enfield 18 July 1690 aged "about 60 yeres." So who ever this William Weeks is, he and Elizabeth Weeks wife of Charles Williams are some how related. According to the Weeks genealogy this William Weeks, d. 1690, is the son of Ammiel,2 George.

Gale Ion Harris in NEHGR 156(2002):151 has a listing of the children of Amiel and Elizabeth (Harris) Weeks which does not include a son William. Footnote #68 on this page has “A son William, baptized in Dorchester 26 August 1655 is given in “George Weeks of Dorchester” [note 60],1:70-71, however, the date matches the son William3 of William2 Weekes (George1) in the same work (p. 36) and a grandson William, son of Ameil, is not mentioned in the 1667 will of Jane Humphrey (wife of George Weeks).

The above entree for William son of William is listed between Elizabeth b 16 Sept. 1653 and Mary b. Nov. 10, 1656 which would place this William b.1654-55.

Pg. 36 further states that Elizabeth b. Sept. 16, bp. Sept. 18 1653(+), daughter of William, 2(George) m. at Boston, Apr. 2, 1694, Terrance Henley of Boston.

The Weeks genealogy has Elizabeth Weeks, daughter of Amiel Weeks, b.(???),bp. Oct. 17, 1657; d.19 Feb 1709/10, unmarried.

Thus it appears that the Elizabeth that married Charles Williams is somehow a descendant of George Weeks but how?

Private User
10/10/2021 at 11:30 AM

Stuart Wilson The death date of Elizabeth Weeks, daughter of Amiel Weeks is weirdly the same (almost) to Elizabeth widow Weeks wife of Timothy Mather, age 79, who died per tombstone 20 Feb 1709/10. I think this might be an error or do we have proof of this death date 19 Feb 1709/10?

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