Mario Malizia Sr. - https://www.geni.com/people/Mario-Malizia-Sr/6000000052064484157

John Dale Kessel — this is directed at you, but the tag was missing.

Private User

I see that about a year ago Dan Cornett updated the profile and removed “Sr” from the Last Name field and put “I” in the suffix field.

I see that today you reverted this back and put “Sr” back into the Last Name field.

At a glance it looks like “Sr” refers to situations where a father and son have the same name and they are referred to by “junior” and “senior.” This seems like good use of the suffix field.

Can you help us understand what “Sr” means in this case if it doesn’t mean “Senior”

Thanks.

Private User

I guess the second part was why use “I” instead of “Sr” in the suffix. I guess that would be a question for Dan. That could be personal preference to some people...

However putting “Sr” back into the Last Name field as you have done is not right if it refers to the “senior” and “junior” kind of thing. It breaks other things.

Thanks for the reply, yes Sr. means Senior and Mario has a son named Mario Malizia Jr. meaning Junior, I have done this tro all my profiles and it was never questioned, if there is a way that Geni want's it done, I have no problem doing it that way. having said that, Ralph Malizia son Anthony Malizia had changed the privacy of Cesidio Malizia born 11/16/1914 and died 4/8/1974 which I had added and made Anthony co-manager as I had with other profiles. Anthony Malizia made himself sole manager of that profile, I added Cesidio Louis malizia, his wife Margherita Brigida Gioconda Adelaide Fabrizi and his Parents and begin merging them. Cesidio and his parents remain to be merged. I would not have cared that he had done that, if I did not have relatives in that particular branch, but I do, i had blocked Anthony because of what he was doing to this branch, but I see that he he back on, perhaps from Geni someone should send him a message that this behavior is unacceptable. Here is Cesidio's profile which has to have the merge completed; Private

Thank you

Private User

It should go in the suffix field then.

Looking at the profile for Cesidio Malizia I do see where his grandson marked him as private about a year ago. I understand your point of view that you added the profile and may have even added all the details, but Geni's general rule is that if they were born more than 150 years ago they can be made public...

It certainly gets complicated with more recent people with different people having different thoughts. In this case it probably sounds like if his grandson wants that profile private then it's probably his call on it. I don't know what reasoning he may have...sometimes there is reason...sometimes people just don't understand something..I don't know...

Secondly, I do see that he removed you as manager. It would have been nice if he would have left you as a manager, but I guess he didn't...and that is too bad, but it's hard to know his reasoning for that.

So far with that example he may be acting ok even though it might not fit all the ways a collaborative tree is supposed to work. Do you have any more examples of anything he's done? If you can point out something he has done that is unacceptable we can certainly help.

Yes, you have the ability to block people...it's not the best thing when working in a collaborative environment, but yes that is something you could do.

John

When I removed the Sr. from the lastname field, that was as explained above (separating name parts).

I must have been half-asleep at that time, though, in changing the "Sr." to a "I" for a profile "nearby" profiles of living persons.

For more distant profiles (e.g. pre-1800), when there are many successive generations of father & son (most commonly!) with the same names, it can get very confusing to figure out which are "Sr." and which are "Jr.", particularly as the usage can change (one who was called Jr as a child and later became Sr after his father died). With few exceptions, then, it is often helpful to simply number the "same named" generations in the suffix field with Roman numerals (I, II, III, IV, V, VI, ...).

But for people still "fresh" in living persons' memories, keeping the suffix they were known as (Sr., Jr., ...) is entirely correct!

Thanks Dan Cornett

I even ran into some family that referred to them as 1st, 2nd and 3rd or something but I was confused because the generation earlier had the same name but they said they didn’t know that or he wasn’t living anymore. Everybody wants to be different sometimes with that 😀

I didn't even know about these comments I'm going to tell you Dan cornet I don't know who you are don't add or take anything off of my profile the only one who can do that is my cousin Gino he's in charge if I made a mistake I apologize my cousin has worked too hard on this tree to have anybody fuck it up including me excuse my French senior and Junior means father and son has the same name the abbreviations in the United States are as follows sr. Jr.. .. and so do you know my grandfather was not married to my great-grandmother as you have put down please correct it but then again I'll message Gino thank you anyway I apologize if this caused any feelings to the family how to explain myself to gino .

I didn't even know about these comments I'm going to tell you Dan cornet I don't know who you are don't add or take anything off of my profile the only one who can do that is my cousin Gino he's in charge if I made a mistake I apologize my cousin has worked too hard on this tree to have anybody fuck it up including me excuse my French senior and Junior means father and son has the same name the abbreviations in the United States are as follows sr. Jr.. .. and so do you know my grandfather was not married to my great-grandmother as you have put down please correct it but then again I'll message Gino thank you anyway I apologize if this caused any feelings to the family how to explain myself to gino .