Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the USA - President Donald Trump Genealogy

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7/24/2019 at 6:57 AM

President Donald Trump's genealogy is obviously inaccurate. Look at his Setzer line....

Hans Jacob Setzer

Now, compare that to the following Setzer profile....

Johann Jacob Schweitzer, the younger

....just ain't right!

Also, can someone delete another...ridiculous photo....

Hans Trumpfheller

7/24/2019 at 10:00 AM

PLEASE, I'd like to second that!!

We can't let political issues infect the integrity of this site!


I just read where long ago a leader of men was so hated by others that THEY tried to destroy his family tree records... I'm speaking of William de Braose.
..HOWEVER, one, THEOPHILUS JONES, in his history of Breckenockshire, hid a skeleton De Braose/Bruce pedigree in appendix 10, under innocuous title: "Descendants of Bernard Newmarch".....

And it is precisely this same type of thing that I am patiently waiting for.

Because while SOME people think that they will get away with this inappropriate handling of Donald Trump's tree.....
I firmly believe the truth will prevail the games will cease and we will soon have an accurate tree for the leader of the Free World...

I want to extend my most sincere gratitude to everyone who has been involved in respectfully trying to put ( back together) together our presidents family tree.

It is people like you who continue to restore my faith in America
where we allegedly have TRUTH and justice for Alllllllllll.

Thank you for caring enough to seek the truth.

I'm looking into the lines you spoke of now...

Cheley Hokanson

7/24/2019 at 10:40 AM

Well....I am glad SOMEBODY replied....was beginning to think the rapture had occurred and I had gotten left behind. Was wondering if I should go outside and see if any neighbors were left....

For those of you that don't like Trump... think he's annoying... well... I can be annoying too (maybe in our common genes?)

In all seriousness, there is a lot of hammering out that needs to be done. THIS is one of them. I would REALLY appreciate more responses. (Keep it clean guys, I don't want this one to get shut down)

Cheley, have a great day!

7/24/2019 at 10:59 AM

Thank you Erica Howton for deleting the photo!

7/24/2019 at 11:09 AM

Politics even seems to have inserted itself into Geni. Sigh.

7/24/2019 at 11:19 AM

I will second the need to have standards above and beyond the petty politics of this year or the next or the next. Geni is a world tree -- screw it up, and you screw up everybody.

7/24/2019 at 12:19 PM

Just to lighten things up....this should have been my initial response to you Cheley (have used it before when deemed appropriate).....

LOL & lol

Private User
7/24/2019 at 7:43 PM

Good work people. Honesty is always best.

7/24/2019 at 8:10 PM

As you know I've been a calm tho outraged believer all along...

I really do need to put more effort into getting my DNA in here for this and many other reasons it seems I am so incredibly related to like everybody that's at the tops of the heaps in the world that it's starting to almost not surprise me to see TRUMP is a John of Gaunt line.... I have world winners n losers on both sides of my family too so yes !!!
Great conversation.
This profile needs more more looking at...
and DNA might help sort things out better too.
..or I don't know make it even more interesting ?!...Like Richard the third's bones and the DNA and all that testing OMG LOL love the video thank you very much cousin...

I was thinking about it earlier today that
long ago they would try to rub out people's family trees and they would actually chip the noses off of their funerary effigies and worse ...!!

So guess if we attend to looking at history we will quickly learn that it isn't the first time the human race has participated in an attempting to disconnect disliked people's family trees.

I found one of my ancestors who was very disliked during his time. Who it is revealed that the people tried to disconnect take away or otherwise Hide his bloodlines...
A William de Braose....

It's kind of like when you know that you know what you know you don't get really upset about it and I know one thing is for sure old
Mac Donald MacLeod Stewart Campbell...

I remain confident that this will all sort out and that you are a force to be reckoned with!

And I also remain confident that if I don't get off and go outside and keep my horse for dinner there will be consequences big smiles sincerely yours and Donalds cousin,


7/24/2019 at 8:14 PM

Hahaha keep my horse for dinner...

Feed my horse her dinner...

7/25/2019 at 3:50 AM

There is another discussion that I had started involving Trump's tree, and just like this one.... no answers....

7/25/2019 at 3:58 AM

This is for all of you tuning in that are "smarter than a fifth grader".... curators, pros, experts, genealogists, ......


7/25/2019 at 9:38 PM

Diana this not correct?? It's a sub branch and not blood related..

Maj. William Russell Bailey
her husband → Elizabeth Bailey
his mother → John Peters, Sr.
her father → Christian Peters, Sgt
his brother → Anna Katharine Peters
his wife → David Fudge, Sr.
her brother → Elizabeth Fudge-Kesling (Link)
his wife → Dieterich "Peter" Kesling
her husband → Anna Christina Kiessling (Lingel)
his mother → Anna Ursula Lingle
her mother → Johann Valentin Bankhard
her brother → Susanna Maria Bechtloff
his daughter → Johann Gottlieb Jakob Bechtloff
her son → Susanna M. Trump (Bechloff)
his daughter → John Trump
her husband → Maria Elisabetha Trump
his mother → Johann Adam Setzer
her father → Hans Jacob Setzer
his father

7/26/2019 at 4:48 AM

Well... I would say that's another line that is obviously messed up.

They have....

Johann Valentin Banckhard

being the son of ....

Hanns Jacob Jacob Banckhard, 3rd

Look at their birthdates. ??????

(Thank you for replying)

7/26/2019 at 5:05 AM

See what I mean about Donald Trump's tree....

I'll sum it up like this....

7/26/2019 at 6:33 AM

Actually sorry Diana Collins... the Sub Branches from my family are also ALL SUB BRANCHES TO MOST OF THOSE IN THAT LINE... Because it won't copy paste them in the colour code that differentiates them from each link.. sadly..
I will see what I can do to show you...
Colour Coding
In Green

Maj. William Russell Bailey
her husband → Elizabeth Bailey
his mother → John Peters, Sr.
her father → Christian Peters, Sgt
his brother

next in Brown
Anna Katharine Peters
his wife → David Fudge, Sr.
her brother →

next in Purple
Elizabeth Fudge-Kesling (Link)
his wife →

next in Pink
Dieterich "Peter" Kesling
her husband → Anna Christina Kiessling (Lingel)
his mother → Anna Ursula Lingle
her mother → Johann Valentin Bankhard
her brother → Susanna Maria Bechtloff
his daughter → Johann Gottlieb Jakob Bechtloff
her son → Susanna M. Trump (Bechloff)
his daughter → Christian J. Trump
her son → Friedrich Trump
his son → Frederick Christ Trump
his son → Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the USA
his son

NOW can you understand the sub branch links...

In my blood line from me back in the family stops at a GG Uncle I think it is..I haven't actually included them but it's his wife's line it runs off then branches out..
So it reads like this...

Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the USA is your second great aunt's grandmother's husband's great uncle's wife's brother's wife's husband's second cousin five times removed.

7/26/2019 at 6:37 AM

OH I see what you mean now... sorry it's late here and I'm brain congested..haha Your looking at the dates 1661 and 1662.. You need to contact the managers of those trees...and point it out..

7/26/2019 at 6:54 AM

Those managers have been drawn into this discussion since I have pasted both of those profiles into this discussion.... at least I would think so. I would say follow those profiles, give it a little while, and see if anything changes. I will put it on my back burner, let it simmer, and give it a stir if necessary.

7/26/2019 at 10:28 AM

Does this source pertain to your tree...

If so, wasn't sure where to put it....or rather who to attach it to....

Put it where you want it, if it's not already on there....

I added some other sources to that tree....just look at my recent activity on my profile and you will see who I attached them to.

7/26/2019 at 11:48 AM

Made some tired of waitin'. (once again, view my activity)

7/26/2019 at 5:47 PM

Over the past two years I corrected a bunch of profiles with surnames like DRUMPF when the source documents clearly say TRUMP. I'm a Democrat but let's keep the genealogical record honest.

7/26/2019 at 6:27 PM


The immigration records list his name as Friedr. Trumpf.[19][20][21] The 1910 United States census lists his name as Fred Trump. [22] According to the German Gesellschaft für Computergenealogie, Trump's earliest known male ancestor was Johann Paul Trump (1727–1792) in Bobenheim am Berg.[4] The story of an itinerant lawyer Hanns Drumpf presented by Gwenda Blair in her book The Trumps (2000) who settled in Kallstadt in 1608 and whose descendants changed their name from Drumpf to Trump during the Thirty Years' War of the 1600s[23][24] could not be substantiated and is not in accordance with the data provided by the German genealogists.[4] Journalist Kate Connolly, visiting Kallstadt, found several variations in spelling of the surname in the village archives (including Drumb, Tromb, Tromp, Trum, Trumpff, Dromb) but her article does not note "Drumpf".[25]


yesterday at 5:06 AM

Dear Diana Collins

I don't think that they are the same because Angus McQueen moved to Moore County, North Carolina, probably before Henrietta "Essie" MacSwane was born. According to this individual, the family immigrated to NC in "the late 1700s or very early 1800s:"

Also from Clergymen and Chiefs: A Genealogy of the MacQueen and Macfarlane Families by Alexander McQueen Quattlebaum, pg. 44, "Angus MacQueen... Son of Alexander MacQueen and Margaret Martin MacQueen.... after the death of his father, Angus emigrated to American with his mother and the rest of the family. Angus never married, and lived in the home of his brother, Col. Donald MacQueen." This book also lists the immigration date for the family around 1802, well before the birth date of Henrietta, which was around 1810 in Scotland. (page 41).

yesterday at 5:15 AM

What about the other profile that I originally thought was the same as Angus....

Angus McSween

..... anything on him?

yesterday at 5:30 AM

I believe that I responded to that one on another discussion thread a while ago, but I wrote that while the family tree you linked does connect him to Henrietta, other family trees imply that he immigrated to North Carolina (see the birth locations for his children.)

On the family tree which you cited, Angus McSween's mother, Christian is also listed as having died in North Carolina: So that seems to be inline with the North Carolina migration found in other trees.

Angus' father and younger step-siblings also all moved to North America.

It is interesting, but we seem to have two different Angus MacQueens who both immigrated to NC around the same time. I am pretty sure that they are distinct individuals because their families are different, but it is quite interesting nonetheless.

yesterday at 5:31 AM

.....and was there a Friedrich Trump born in 1834?

yesterday at 5:40 AM

Yes there was:

Name: Friedrich Trump
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 6 Mai 1834 (6 May 1834)
Baptism Date: 11 Mai 1834 (11 May 1834)
Baptism Place: Evangelisch,Kallstadt,Pfalz,Bavaria
Father: Joh. Trump
Mother: Susanna Maria Bechtloff
FHL Film Number: 193949

from Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898 on

He married Elisabetha Freund on 26 Nov 1863 and died in Kallstadt in 1876.

yesterday at 5:44 AM

I am only showing you this one, because it mentions an Angus McQueen. I may get confused as to "who's on first".... so bear with me....

Don't know who Flora Fairly is....but would be a good source for her if she's on geni.

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