John Sevier (Xavier), 'the Huguenot' - The Problem of John Sevier/Xavier "the Hueguenot" 's Parentage

Agreed. Let’s clean this up.

Disconnected Marie de Azpileuta as mother of John Sevier, 'the Huguenot'

Let’s focus on nailing down this generation ( John & Mary) where there are actual records first and build proper biographies for them & their sons William & Valentine who came to America.

I see English records at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Xavier-55 although the parents attached ? I dunno.

Take a look at Stan Kenton's family tree online. He shows this family with sources, including Lady Alguacil's birth in Peru, immigration, death in France, marriage and child with sources.

Thank you, Erica Howton I'm so excited about this.

Diane Hillaire , If you will kindly provide links for your sources here, and preferably also quote the relevant parts, I would be very happy to take a good look at them. Authoritative sources always need to be included especially on all profiles of historical interest to a lot of people, and I think anyone who is blood-related would insist on adequate proof for all additions or changes.

This one?

http://allthingskenton.com/table_of_contents/tree/languages/en/pers...

I don’t see sources for that data but at least there are dates and locations.

Preferred Citation: Altman, Ida. Emigrants and Society: Extremadura and Spanish America in the Sixteenth Century. Berkeley: University of California Press, c1989 1989. http://ark.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/ft1q2nb0zj/

https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft1q2nb0zj;ch...

I see a de Paredes family that emigrated to Perú.

Tagging the profile

Lady Isabel Alguacil de Paredes

Lady Isabel cannot have been this person:

https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft1q2nb0zj&am...

. A vecina of Cáceres named Isabel de Paredes, the wife of the physician Licenciado Salinas, claimed to be the daughter of the vicar Alvaro de Paredes. In 1556 she sued the cofradía de la Cruz, which had inherited Paredes's estate, for a yearly allowance of 40 ducados for herself and her four children. The cofradía maintained that she was not his daughter, but one of the witnesses claimed that Paredes, an hidalgo and caballero, did have Isabel's mother Mari Morena "for his friend" and that he had recognized Isabel de Paredes; furthermore he had brought Isabel to his house and treated her as a daughter. Forty years later the suit remained unresolved.[92]

I don’t think she could’ve been this person either, although it’s cited in Ancestry trees:

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7486&a...

Isabel Paredes
in the U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
Name: Isabel Paredes
Arrival year: 1592
Arrival Place: Peru
Primary Immigrant: Paredes, Juana De
Family Members: Child Teresa; Child Tomas; Child Leonor; Child Isabel
Source Publication Code: 5801
Annotation: List of passengers to the Kingdom of Peru from 1560 on. Records from the archives of the [West] Indies (Archivo General de Indias) in Seville. Covers the period 1560-1594. Although it notes that the research will be continued, no further articles have app
Source Bibliography: MORALES, ADOLFO DE. "Catalogo de pasajeros al Reino del Peru desde 1560." In Revista del Instituto Peruano de Lima: Investigaciones Genealogicas, ano (vol.) 6:6 (Apr. 1953), pp. 79-95; ano 7:7 (Nov. 1954), pp. 152-165; ano 8:8 (Dec. 1955), pp. 239-257.
Household Members:
Name Relation
Isabel Paredes
Leonor Paredes
Teresa Paredes
Tomas Paredes
Source Citation
Place: Peru; Year: 1592; Page Number: 251
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.
Original data: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2012.

The “traditional” book (Sevier family - can we get a citation?) does not attempt a wife name at this generation.

Ancestry pages:

https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/445724...

https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/445724...

I found her here, on page 100. ''Diccionario histoórico, genalógico y heráldico de las familias ilustres de la monarquía española escrito por d. Luis Vilar y Pascual'' (c.1859)

https://books.google.com/books?id=OZ1KqkDa1HIC&pg=PA100&lpg...

D. Juan de Cabrera, natural del Principado de Cata luña, que casó con doña Clara Espin del Arroyo, de la misma naturaleza, proceden los del Perú; pues fué su hi jo D. Luis de Cabrera, natural de Granada , que pasó á las Indias, donde casó en Caslloma con ***doña Isabel Al guacil de Paredes y Padilla***, en la que procreó entre otros hijos á doña Juana de Cabrera, natural de Guaura en el Perú, mujer de D. Juan Francisco Hernandez de Velas– co, natural de Barcelona, que casó siendo Capitan en Lima el 15 de Mayo de 1701, y fueron padres de doña Isabel Hernandez de Velasco y Cabrera, natural de la ciudad de Lima, donde nació en 4 de Marzo de 1705, y casó D. Juan Alcalde y Gutierrez, que nació en Duron el año 1707 y pasó á avecindarse en Santiago de Chile, don de hizo informacion de su nobleza á 18 de Febrero de 1764 ante Juan Bautista Borda, escribano de Cámara, le galizada por los escribanos Justo del Aguila, José Anto nio Gomez de Silva y Miguel Gomez de Silva, el cual fué creado primer Conde de Quinta-Alegre por título dado en San Lorenzo á 22 de Octubre de 1767, refrendado por D. José Ignacio de Goyeneche, el Conde de Aranda D. Miguel María de Nava y Carreño y D. Francisco José de las Infantas; y fueron sus hijos D. Juan Ignacio, que nació en Santiago de Chile en 1732, y D. José Antonio Alcalde Hernandez de Velasco Gutierrez y Cabrera, que nació en la misma ciudad en 1739.

Translated with Google translate:

Mr. Juan de Cabrera, a native of the Principality of Cata Luña, who married Mrs. Clara Espin del Arroyo, of the same [place], come from Peru; because his son was Mr. Luis de Cabrera, a native of Granada, who went to the Indies, where he married ***Mrs. Isabel Alguacil de Paredes y Padilla*** in Caslloma, where he procreated, among other children, Mrs. Juana de Cabrera, a native of Guaura in Peru, wife of Mr. Juan Francisco Hernandez de Velas - co, a native of Barcelona, ​​who married as Captain in Lima on May 15, 1701, and were the parents of Mrs. Isabel Hernandez de Velasco y Cabrera, a native of the city from Lima, where he was born on March 4, 1705, and married Mr. Juan Alcalde y Gutierrez, who was born in Duron in 1707 and began to settle in Santiago, Chile, where he gave information about his nobility on February 18, 1764 before Juan Bautista Borda, notary of the Chamber, beaten[sic] by the notaries Justo del Aguila, José Anto nio Gomez de Silva and Miguel Gomez de Silva, which was created the first Count of Quinta-Alegre by title given in San Lorenzo on October 22 of 1767, endorsed by Mr. José Ignacio de Goyeneche, the Count of Aranda D. Miguel María de Nava y Carreño and D. Francisco José de las Infantas; and were his children D. Juan Ignacio, who was born in Santiago de Chile in 1732, and D. José Antonio Mayor Hernandez de Velasco Gutierrez y Cabrera, who was born in the same city in 1739.

This is as far as I got with it, so far.

I re-checked Stan Kenton's sources. Here is a link to his source for Don Juan DeXavier and Maria:http://allthingskenton.com/table_of_contents/tree/languages/en/pers...
I re-checked his source for Lady Isabel, and it appears to be a source for a different member of his tree. I am sorry for any confusion, and wish I hadn't trusted that source. You can decide if the source listed for Don Juan DeXavier and Maria is legit. I am curious what you will discover. I too would like to know the truth of this genealogy.

Diane Hillaire Will you disconnect the profile & add a note that she is NOT his wife?

Thank you, Diane Hillaire . No problem, the important thing is that we were all able to work together to correct it. I appreciate your interest in this lineage, and look forward to working with you again in the future.

This particular family history has been really tough for a very long time, for a lot of interested genealogists, even many professionals. So I don't expect it to be easily solved. If it's possible at all, I'm sure it will require a lot of intensive research and study. And maybe a little luck (or a miracle) :)

I'll get back to you later about the other source you mentioned. Meanwhile, you have my best wishes for all your genealogical pursuits.

Thanks Erica & Debra. I will unlink her profile.

Thank you both. This is a very important conversation: there are many trees reflecting a confused pedigree for John Sevier. It would be wonderful to get it better on Geni.

To orient those who may not know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sevier

John Sevier (September 23, 1745 – September 24, 1815) was an American soldier, frontiersman, and politician, and one of the founding fathers of the State of Tennessee.

I agree, also.

Debra, have you joined the Sevier Family Association Facebook page? You may wish to do so. Our family Historian (who has been researching for over 40 years) may hold answers that we need. I have met Marinella Garrett Charles in person at last year's Reunion. She's very knowledgeable about things Sevier.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/5284725595/

For those who may not Facebook, I take it http://sevierfamily.org/ is the Sevier Family Association?

Hi April Lee Payne ! Thanks to you and Erica for the links. I've never really felt much need to belong to a 'family association', but anything's possible I always say.

You're very welcome. I do hope you'll pop on over and join us. They're a terrific bunch of people and I feel totally 'at home' with them. My nuclear family is shrinking, so I need to know I still have relatives out and about, you know? Plus, we think we may have collectively discovered where our dear Sarah Jane Hawkins was buried. :)

Hope they find her and test her DNA and give her a proper burial and grave marker.

Since she died 35 years prior to her husband, and unless the soil is vastly different, then she's probably dust by now. When they exhumed John's casket in Alabama, there were very few bones left of him. But, she was very likely buried in Embree where they took soil from the private property to place at her memorial site, next to John. Best we can hope for, I'm afraid. The "Nolichucky Fort" or whatever name they gave it is said to have been built, by John in the gap of the mountains six miles south of Jonesborough, at the time. We looked at the Google map of the area and Embree is very close by.