Ann (Unknown) Kinne - Disputed origins

Started by Erica Howton on Saturday, April 18, 2020
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What Is the evidence supporting her as daughter of Edward “Edmund” Putnam .

According to https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/putnam/1291/

“The whole Ann Howard / Putnam Kinney thing is confusing. There is no Ann Putnam of the Salem, Mass. Putnam family who married anyone named Howard or Kinney of which there is record.“

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer I’ve gone ahead and disconnected from parents.

The confusion stems from the fact in Ancestry.com, there is a database record that has

Name: Ann Putname
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1629
Spouse Name: Henry Kinne
Spouse Birth Place: En
Spouse Birth Year: 1623
Marriage Year: 1650
Number Pages: 1
Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900

That and the Kinney/Kinne family were close to the Putnam family in Salem. Henry Kinne, Sr supported the accusations of Ann Putnam against some women... and later some Kinne children were put in the guardianship of the Putnams... so that makes many people theorize that Henry's wife Ann must have been a Putnam and maybe an aunt or older cousin of Ann Putnam the accuser.

Secondly, in Torrey's New England Marriages, he has an entry

>>>KINNE, Henry 1 (1624- ) & Ann HOWARD (1632?-1680+); b 1651(2?), 3 May 1650; Salem?<<<

However, he did not have any vital record support nor has anyone else been able to substantiate that this is correct.

Thirdly, some genealogy sources say that Henry had 2 wives named Anne.... It is unclear if that was true or if it was just a way to resolve two theories that suppose his wife was Ann Putnam or Ann Howard based on #1 and #2 above, or maybe a composite Ann Putnam Howard who married Henry Kinne in 1650.

Many people involved with more recent Kinne family research seem to think that Ann was someone else entirely and it was all a mix up.

So it gets passed along like the telephone game and gets written as if a fact.

Thanks Erica Howton. I planned to look into this and am glad you went ahead and cleared it up.

And thanks again Private for the careful research and information.

I'm not sure why I curate here, Erica you're welcome to curate.

Oh I see, she's a profile that Private User had and wanted to offload. I don't manage many Salem profiles.

Wanted to offload as in get rid of? Like a door to door salesman in the 1800s trying to pan off useless items...The advantage of GENI is that one can consolidate all the "known" info on a person and people can very quickly get up to speed on what's what.

When I first started in genealogy, I used a lot of the old published books and Town Histories from the 1800s.. thinking it was better because people then remember.., but then I quickly realized that in some cases it was just the telephone game and people confusing how people were related... same as today.

And for a number of family groups, original research was done in the 1900 to 1910 period (when immigration from "Non American Type" countries was high),and then more recent research in the 1990s to now as more original docs are scanned and available online for more people to inspect.

So think of GENI as a permanent work in progress to use when working your private family tree in terms of hints, sources to review, possible connections, etc.

That's why I pay the PRO fee, because it allows the possible duplicates to reveal themselves quicker than the standard free member. That is one of the reasons there are so many duplicates, because most people have moved on to other family groups by the time the possible duplicate is signaled. Same with entering profiles. WIKItree has a better interface that forces you to review and pick from existing profiles before you add a new one, but other features on entering data are so cumbersome and I hate the clunkiness of going through the family tree graphically. It is more difficult in WIKITree when in tree view to see siblings and cousins.

I have absolutely zero recognition of this person. The only revision touch I have is in 2013 when I added it to the MP exchange project. Based on that date, I'm assuming it was a profile from a former curator that was reassigned to me. There was one former curator whose curator notes got reassigned to me around then when Mike did a bulk transfer, so if there was a note from "me," I'd ignore it.

Dean, I think Hatte meant "offload the MP," meaning I'd looked for someone else to curate it. Nothing nefarious or judgmental.

I added it to her sources : 1538-1874 Kent, England, Tyler Index to Parish Registers

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