Edward Coe - Incorrect information

I do not know what has happened! I was working with Carl Coe back in the day when I was working on my Coe line and I have a copy of his Coe Families of Maryland and Virginia and also now have access to the online version. I am leaving to get my Covid vaccination and will check all this out when I return. Will get back to you/.

Don't feel bad about it. I didn't catch it either. The clincher, for me, after it was pointed out by two other researchers that this Edward was the wrong Edward, was noticing that his supposed father, William, would only have been about 3 years old when this South Carolina Edward was born... whoops! Plus, I was given a copy of the South Carolina tree of this Edward covering several following descendants of this Edward, non of which tie into my Maryland/Virginia Coe line. I do not plan to make any changes until I confirm everything from my book. Actually, any one of us managers of this page can edit it, I believe.

Mike

I compared the info in the Edward Coe profile here in the Geni tree with the info in my database and the Coe Families of Maryland and Virginia book (both printed book and online version) and most of the information included here in the Geni.com tree appears to be correct. Except, contrary to info included in the tree Edward Coe had only one wife – Lucy whose maiden name has not been confirmed. He did not have a wife Mary. Edward and Lucy Coe had 3 known children Stephen, Isaac and Rachel.
The parents shown for Edward Coe are also incorrect. The William Coe shown as his father was born in 1727 – 3 years before Edwad was born.

I believe this is the right Edward Coe to be the father of Stephen, Isaac and Rachel Coel but the wrong Edward to be the father of Robert Coe. I found a tree on Family search with an Edward Coe and Robert Coe who appear to me to be your Edward and Robert Coe:
Edward Melsterd Coe born 1746 in Maryland and died 15 February 1815 in Loudurn County, Virginia, married Mary Jameson. They had son Robert Coe born 20 December 1789 in Loudoun County, Virginia died 6 December 1856 in Loudoun County, Virginia. This Edward Coe was the son of John Coe 1716-1793 and Jane Melstead. I’m sure you have seen all this and it may not be correct but I just found it very interesting.

I will continue working on this. I spoke with Carl Coe (author of The Coe Families of Maryland and Virginia) Yesterday and plan to talk to him again today. Maybe he can shed some light on the subject. As I said my feeling at the moment is that this Edward Coe and wife Lucy are the parents of Isaac, Stephen and Rachel but not the Edward Coe who married Mary and had son Robert. Just my opinion based on all the info I have seen.

Will be back in touch soon.

Vonda

I talked to Carl and I do hope you have a copy of his The Coe Families of Maryland and Virginia. You Coe line is well documented in the book. Your line is from Loundoun County, Virginia and the Edward coe on the Geni tree is from South Carolina. Carl said DNA test resilts indicate they are not even related

Anyway here is your line in the book
William Coe page 345.

Edward Coe page 358

Robert Coe page 387

Aurelius Coe Page 433

I don't recall your line from there forward but it is in the book. Just follow the children's links

If you do not have Carl's book let me know.

Vonda

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You are correct that the Edward Coe that was shown on the profile is the SC Edward who's wife is Lucy. The problem is that his profile has been inserted into the Maryland/Virginia Edward Coe line, so that the parents, William and Jane Coe, and wife, Mary, and children, are correct for the MD/VA line, but wrong for the SC line. I changed his profile shown on the MD/VA line to what is shown in Carl's book (I do have a copy).

Problem is, as it appears, the 2 profiles are merged, then my corrections will show up as errors for the SC line. Some how these 2 lines must be split, but for the life of me, I have no idea how to proceed.

Since you are a Geni PRO, (I am just Geni basic) perhaps you can contact Geni and get advice on how to split these 2 lines. (I did try to, under "edit profile" "relationships" to remove her from the one line, but it just went red with a warning, and the "Remove" button was disabled, I suppose because they are merged).

Eventually we will get it straightened out.

Mike

No, you cannot do it that way. The existing Edward Coe who was born 1730 died before 1790) should be left as the husband of Lucy Coe We need create ti a new profile for Edward Coe born 1754 died 1814. Then disconnect Mary Jameson as wife of the first Edward Coe and make her the wife of the newly created Edward Coe. The first thing that needs to be done is disconnect William Coe born 1727 as father of Edward Coe. He isn't connected to either Edward Coe. I can do some of this but do not feel comfortable doing it all. We probably should get a curator to help. Erin curates the Edwad Coe profile - perhaps she will help. I am going to renove William Coe as father of Edward Coe and change #dwad back to the original Edward Coe 1730-1990 then see if I can get help from a curator to do the rest...

Sorry my bad. The William Coe born 1727 is the father of your Edward Coe but not mine. Carl has not been able to find a father for my poor ole Edward. You're lucky! I will leave William where he is until we get a profile created for your Edward..I sent a message tp Erin asking for help. Hope to hear from her soon..

I have sent messages to 2 curators but have not heard back from either. I know exactly what should be done to fix this but I’m afraid to attempt it on my own. Edward Coe 1730-1790 should be removed as son of William Coe 1727-1792. Edward Coe 1745-1815 should be added as son of William Coe. Mary Jameson (and her children) should be removed as wife of Edward Coe 1730-1790 and moved to wife of Edward Coe 1745-1815. Hopefully a curator will respond soon.

It appears we both agree on what needs to be done, the question is how to do it correctly. You are correct that my editing, as an attempt to correct it, was the wrong way, since the information remains incorrect regardless of whether I edited it or not. I, too, am afraid to delve into any attempt to do anything more, less I make matters worse. Hopefully, someone more knowledgeable about the workings of Geni than the two of us will enter this discussion and help us proceed.

Mike

Private User and Private User, I had picked up on Vonda's two other requests and went ahead without seeing this more detailed discussion.
I still think what I did was in the spirit and with the correct outcome form what you have been discussing here.
(even as a basic user, like me, you are able to do it, but you have to move the wife over first, then you can break the relationship to the wrong Edward. To remove the wrong Edward from William, I had to give him a second set of parents; and then in tree view you can move Edward to the new parent (clink on his 'portrait', on the left under more, choose 'move profile', drag him from the right top corner on to a new parent), make him son with the correct parents and Edward was loose from William) - just in case you want to do something similar in future.
Again, please, let me know if something hasn't gone to plan, and I'm happy to try and help out (I just like little puzzle like this).

Hubert de Vos

As I said in my other response - the problem remaining is that although Mary Jameson was moved to Edward Coe 1854-1815 as his wife her children remained as children of Edward Coe 1730-1790. Could you please move them to Edward 1754-1815. Also could you please make Michael R. Johnson manager of the Edward Co 1754=1815 Profile.. He is Michael's ancestor and he has all of his personal information. Thank you...

Hubert de Vos

Children that are still listed as sons of Edward Coe 1730-1790 but are sons of Edward Coe 1754-1815 and Mary Jameson:.

Robert Coe 1789-1856 – has wife and children

David Jameson Coe born ?? died ca 1875

Private User, I have now moved the two children also (sorry, I wasn't familiar with the situation so hadn't picked up on the children).
Private User should have got a request to become manager of Edward Coe by now.
I hope this settles it.

Hubert de Vos

Thank you! It looks good to me. I hope Private User agrees. It will be complete when he accepts the management of the Edward Coe 1754-1815 profile and adds all the info. Upon reviewing the Revisions of the Edward Coe 1730-1790 profile I see that a very bad merge that occurred in November 1920 caused this whole mess!

Hubert and Vonda. Thank you both for straightening this mess out. I, as manager of the MD/VA Edward Coe, will add the other children of Edward and Jane and other info shortly (probably won't get to it today, as I have some other things to attend to).

Thanks again,
Mike