William Evans - Parents

Started by Debbie Gambrell on Saturday, October 9, 2021
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William's Wiki page has different parents for him and a good bit of DNA test results.

Also, I had seen notes on Ancestry for some of this line being Monacan and buried in the many notes on the Wiki page is this note:

"William Evans marraige record was on the Original Rolls of the Monacan tribe in Amherst Co VA. There is a book named "Indian Island" which deals with this community.William Evans home estate was like an Indian compund on top of a mountains. He and his family and neighbors associated with the native Indian community there."

Even though the Wiki page has William's mother listed as Margaret (Gatewood) Evans, the notes go on state his parents were;

"He was the son of Thomas Evans and Monacan Indian Unknown.", which would explain why his own marriage would have been listed on the rolls as indicated.

Then there is this longer paragraph about their Native connections:

"CHEROKEE INDIANS In this county it is not generally known that we have had a settlement of Cherokee Indians for many years. A few, and a very few, of the oldest remain to tell the story and the younger portion who know it only as a tradition, are passing from observation by the mingling of races, one of the results of the great upheaval produced by the war. In that portion of the foothills of the Blue Ridge mountains in Amherst County, known as the Tobacco Row mountain, Bear mountain, Stinnett’s and Paul’ s mountains, from five to eight miles south of the courthouse, a race of people exists today claiming to be Cherokee Indians, and not without satisfactory proof. The older part were typical Indians, of a rich copper color, high cheek bones, long, strait black hair, tall and erect [of?] form, stolid and not emotional like the African, but of as manly bearing as come of Buffalo Bill’s best specimens. The original settlers came to the county at an early period. William Evans, a Cherokee Indian first resided, about the time of the Revolutionary war, on Buffalo river, in Amherst County. His daughter Mollie Evans married one, William Johns, son of Mallory Johns, an Indian, sometimes called a Portuguese, who lived to an advance age, said to be 114 years, and died at the house of his grandson William B. Johns, in the “Indian Settlement,” as it was called, and by which it was known when I first knew them. There exists a tradition to this day, amongst these Indians that Mallory Johns, William Evans, and John Redcross, all came from the south, and it may be that they belonged to the Cherokee of North Carolina, who found their way here in the visits of the Indians then made on foot along the air line from North Carolina, to Washington to see the Great Father as they do now on the railroad, and that either in going or returning they stopped by the way and took up their abode here. Beyond the tradition I know nothing reliable, but my theory as to why they were here is doubtless the correct explanation."

The only consistency on Wiki is that his father's name was Thomas Evans.

It seems that the Native connection is well-established and that the parentage here on Geni needs further research / documentation since it's different than what is on Wiki.

Best I can make it all out, the Thomas Evans Wiki has as the father of William Evans discussed here is this one, because that's how it's connected in many trees on Ancestry:

Thomas Evans

Additionally, when i change the connections in my Ancestry tree to the parents connected to William here, it breaks my son's paternal Fulcher DNA connections. Only the connection thru Thomas Evans at the link above keeps my son's paternal DNA matches connected on Ancestry, and he has way too many DNA-matching Fulcher cousins for me to disregard that.

So, regardless of what is decided to keep connected here on Geni, I'm going to have to leave our Ancestry tree connected the way the DNA matches sort it out.

Tried 3 ways to make it work. Dates do not. John Evans, the headmen of the Catawba and Cartographer /LInguister is missing a William and the dates work for his son.

The dna won't help here due to Thomas being of the same dna.

The dna won't help here due to Thomas being of the same dna. Thomas has to have a William under him born later and will put that information above for that profile.

Hmmm....

the dates work fine on Ancestry.

This site has a bit of info on Thomas and his father Charles but doesn't give a list of Thomas' children, but it does have a different birthdate for Thomas - 1734.

https://nativeamericanroots.wordpress.com/2015/05/31/evans-family-o...

the link above has another link that says it has all of Thomas' children listed, but I've tried a couple of times and the link isn't working for me.

Just noticed I failed to include the Wiki link

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Evans-21722

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Evans-21719

WIki has Thomas b. 1710 at the top of the page but says 1725 farther down but the link I provided in the previous post has his date of birth as 1734.

Just as noted in the notes in the profile, William's father Thomas is said to have married a woman named Margaret, as indicated on Wiki and other sites:

"Thomas Evans was married to a woman named Margaret, maiden name unknown. She died prior to him writing his will, as she is never mentioned in the will, but their children are all mentioned.

From this we know that Margaret must have been born about 1720 and died in Amherst Co VA prior to June 1774.

Some researchers had thought she was Margaret Gatewood, because a Margaret Gatewood was among three who testified to Thomas Evans' will in 1774. However, the Margaret Gatewood who signed the will, along with Ann Gatewood and William Gatewood, Sr., is the wife of Ambrose Gatewood 1747-1805 Amherst Co, VA, who was the son of William Gatewood, Sr and his wife Ann Ransome Gatewood. The three persons who signed, or testified to the 1774 will of Thomas Evans were husband, wife and daughter in law, all named Gatewood.

The Gatewood family lived directly next to Thomas Evans. There was a later marriage between the Gatewood family and the Evans family. This was the marriage of Martha Patty Gatewood, d/o Richard Gatewood, the brother of William Gatewood, Sr, 1722-1789, and George Evans b. 1769 Amherst Co VA, the son of William Evans, the son of Thomas Evans who died 1777 in Amherst Co, VA."

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-522451

But more convincing is this site that shows Margaret as a witness to Thomas' will and being mentioned as his wife;

https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/m/o/o/Robin-A-Moore-Denham-Springs/WE...

"Thomas Evans (son of Thomas) died 1774.
Includes NotesNotes for Thomas Evans:
Amherst County Virginia-- Will Book- 1- Page's 264 & 265.
Tho Evans'June 28 1774 This is my laste will an testement
WillIn the name of the lorde I give my body to th earth
And my sole to the Lorde God in Heaen an to my
sone Bengman all my Land an one horse an mare
beed the Catel an hoges tow him for the youse of my
two Darters and Gransone Marey an Haner an Thomas
as longe as the abide to gother an on parting to be eakly
devided betvene them my Darter Haner the bed that is
sole myne my sone Charles one shillin Thomas an
William an Stanup all a Shillin an my Darter Noloy
One Shillinghis
Thomas T> Evans LS
Test Margaret+Gatewoodmark
Ann Gatewood
Wm Gatewood Senr.
At a Court held for Amherst County the fifth day of September 1774 This last will of
Thomas Evans deceased Was presented in Court and being proved by the oaths
of Margaret Gatewood Ann Gatewood & William Gatewood subscribing Witnesses
thereto was ordered to be recorded.
Test Ben Pollard D C
1761 LAND RECORD: VA, Albermarle Co., Abstracts by Davis, Vol 1, pg 52:
p. 3 Dec 1761. Thomas Evens to Benjamin Dod Wheeler for 60 pounds, 246 acres
S. branch Moor Creek adj. Ben Wheeler, grantor. Margaret, wife of Evens. Wit:
William Cheek, Micajah Wheeler, John Langford, Abraham Musick."

Is there other evidence that indicates Thomas was married to Elizabeth instead of Margaret and that Elizabeth is this William's mother?

Thanks in advance for any additional information.

A huge problem with the last name Evans is that it is a VERY common surname being of Welsh nature where the Wales did not have surnames for quite some time and once they did MANY different families took on the Evans surname as it just means "son of John". It is the FIFTH most common surname in Wales, the TENTH most common surname in England and the 48th most common surname in the world. Being also a decendant of A Thomas Evans who appears to claim the will mentioned here, I think DNA results are the only way to sort out the different Evans lines through the maternal branches.

So what I mean to say with all of that above is that there could easily have been multiple Thomas Evans in VA in that area at the same time. Not everyone had wills.

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