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Mary Arbaugh (Blankenbaker) - Need a curator please and thank you

Started by Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 on Monday, October 25, 2021
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Needs merged: Mary "Molly" Deer and Mary Arbaugh

and her with them: Mary Arbaugh

There is no September 31st and Mary "Molly" Deer 's fictitious birth date is locked because of a bad merge with a different Mary.

There is no September 31st and Mary "Molly" Deer 's fictitious birth date is locked because of a bad merge with a different Mary.

We’re not merging them, we don’t know they are dups.

Changing her date of birth and removing Arbaugh just makes this one more like the Molly Blankenbaker.
She no longer needs merged into these other two. Now she is Mary "Molly" Deer

Mary "Molly" Deer (Blankenbaker) was born on September 29, 1754 in Culpeper, Virginia, Colonial America. Her parents were Christopher Blankenbaker and Christina Finks.

Mary married one time: John Deer circa 1772 in Culpeper, Virginia, United States. Together they had the following 10 children:

Reuben Deer;
Lewis Deer;
Ephraim Deer;
Simeon Dear (Deer);
Elizabeth Deer;
Jonas Deer;
Mildred Deer;
Sarah Deer;
Abner Deer;
Jeremiah Dear.
She died on November 28, 1828 in Culpeper, Virginia, United States.

https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=80751730340 is the reason for the whole discussion and I have NO idea why no one would unmerge them.

I didn’t understand what you were looking to achieve. Then you wrote, never mind, I’ve Disambiguated. Is undo merge still needed?

Erica Howton the unmerge would be helpful just as a guide, yes. The dates locked into this one needs to go away and the issue would likely be resolved if this Mary "Molly" Deer profile is deleted or merged with Mary Molly. It went bad pretty quickly.
Sorry

Dan's curator not for Molly is due to confusion over this one but there is no confusion for Germanna: Mary Magdalena Wayman

Adam and Mary are pretty much just a shell at the database. That is why I cannot do anything more for Adam and Mary (Griffiths/Blankenbaker/Unknown) Arbaugh

It was not a "never mind". It was a I went around the problem because a curator refused to unmerge when I made the simple request.

As I said before, leave the unconnected MP Mary; you don’t need it, and “we do not know” the manager intent for its placement.

What needs undoing at this point?

Thank you, Erica Howton
The birthdate needs removed or it will keep showing as a duplicate and the curator note on Mary "Molly" Deer needs to have any question of parents removed

The curator note is from 8 years ago. We know whose daughter and husband and mother she is

Molly is my focus. I know her.

And maybe reverse that merge I requested undone at 10 something this am?: https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=80751730340

I have been working on other profiles but checking in on the progress of these

Again, I don’t understand why to reverse the merge. I’ll remove any matches.

The CN looks current.

This area looks resolved.

Erica Howton the reverse the merge is what I asked in the Help discussion. It is two different women. I don't "understand" why you and Private User don't understand so that is your decision but having it unmerged will at least be a time stamp and a trail to show that they are NOT the same person should anyone new come along with old info like a gedcom upload.
When I see it is a curated profile, maybe that is my red flag to ask a curator privately because that seems to be the issue, yes?
Dan Cornett changed the curator note and I thanked him. I did state in this thread that I requested it and he acted on it and we communicated by PM. Maybe I just need to hear back from Private User about this profile: Mary "Molly" Deer

Erica Howton, you said:

"Again, I don’t understand why to reverse the merge. I’ll remove any matches."

Do you mean what happens when you do an unmerge? The fall out that happens to the profiles?

@Erica, maybe the last thing that you can do, please, would be to remove Mary "Molly" Deer date of birth from the profile for Mary "Molly" Deer

I really do think that would fix the problem of her coming up as a duplicate and since we don't know who she was then and is now, that will keep her from being confused for someone else until Ben or the only other manager on the profile can weigh in.
I am not trying to difficult, just efficient

That would be vandalistic and make it even more difficult to match the profile where intended. Just move on.

Erica Howton ok, willl wait to hear back from Ben, the curator.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 unless I'm misreading what happened above, it's not that a curator refused to help... they asked for more information. They are volunteers and Geni is not their full-time job. We appreciate some patience.

Mike Stangel I can appreciate that and agree. I am pretty conscientious about resetting/fixing profiles after they have been unmerged and know there is some consequence to an unmerge. I do not, however, know all the ins and outs or fall out of it and also I can also respect that it must be difficult to decide whether or not to work on another curator's profile. Again let me stress that I am not trying to be difficult. I just work quickly and on so many profiles and I do not move on until I know I have done everything I can do to make the profile better for having touched it or come upon it and not worse. Did I say that right? If I see a profile that is in error and I cannot fix it, I will ask for specific help or maybe simply start a Discussion under the profile. The curated profiles are more complicated because of the time frame in which they were curated and the rationale for them being curated versus a profile with no active manager or whether there are sources attached.... When I am working from a known for me, it is even harder to leave a profile incorrect or in a state that they are still coming up with a wrong "duplicate" showing.

I have moved on from the profile.
The merge I requested be undone never did happen.
The curated profile which is a duplicate of another profile is still in error but no longer connected to anyone but the date locked on that profile makes her look like the mismerged profile I asked to be unmerged.
The curator did not understand and I do not know how to better explain it.

I understand.. some things just take a little time.

That’s not much understanding of curating decisions and statements, Cynthia. It feels like a second guess and audit, which I for one do not appreciate: I had to say no “three times” to my disagreement with your suggested fix. There are usually several ways to resolve a technical issue on a profile, and after 13 years, I pretty much know to pick the best way to achieve the goal. So if I say “I choose this way,” the only second guess should be by ticket to Geni customer support, which would be a total waste of everyone’s time over nonsense.

Erica Howton you can PM me. It is not a second guess. I am used to not always communicating well and so I continue to try. I think you still do not understand and I have done my best and moved on. I cannot see from your perspective but I am trying which is why I ask more questions or try to state something in a different way/rephrase.
I don't make tickets. I don't see any value to it. But maybe I will figure it out.

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