Lt. John Cleveland ('Devil John') [Colonial Militia] - Source for Death Date?

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Private User
11/30/2021 at 10:55 PM

1830 US Census shows him alive in Franklin County, Georgia, in 1830 (age 60-70).

Also shows Benjamin Cleveland living in Franklin County in 1830 (later died in Habersham County).

https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000180504227922

Is there a reliable source for the 1810 death date?

Private User
11/30/2021 at 11:09 PM

Robert H. Cleveland age 30-40 in 1830 Franklin County, with wife age 20-30 and some young children.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YTL-9Q1J?i=49&amp...

No Geni profile for this individual. (He's not on findagrave or google, either.)

Private User
11/30/2021 at 11:32 PM

Reuben Cleveland, age 40-50 in 1830 Franklin County, with wife age 30-40 and children.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YTL-9Q5Q?i=61&amp...

Private User
11/30/2021 at 11:36 PM

Larkin Cleveland, age 30-40 in 1830 Franklin County, with wife age 20-30 and children.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YTL-9QJR?i=69&amp...

Private User
11/30/2021 at 11:46 PM

Benjamin Cleveland, age 50-60 in 1830 Franklin County, with wife age 50-60, and family.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YTL-9QWY?i=87&amp...

Benjamin Cleveland age 30-40 in 1830 Franklin County, with wife age 30-40, and family.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYTL-97FD?i=31&amp...

Private User
12/1/2021 at 1:25 AM

In Habersham County, GA. Benjamin CLEAVELAND (spelled with the "A") and wife, both age 50-60 along with a much older woman and some older children.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYB7-FXG?i=20&...

(Incidentally, my 3rd g-grandfather and his wife, both age 20-30, with two very young children, are on the same page.)

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The two distinctively different Benjamin Cleveland / Cleaveland families -- both couples in the same general age range -- found in both Franklin County and Habersham County, Georgia at the same time, should give serious genealogists pause for consideration.

We do have the ages and numbers, etc., of the other members of their households, to provide some clues.

The obit included in Gen. Benj. Cleveland's findagrave profile spelled the name both ways, although in the headline it is spelled with the "A": Cleaveland. And spelled the same way on the 1830 Habersham County census.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/54628626/benjamin-cleveland

I think the Cleveland families of Georgia might benefit from some more genealogical/historical study and research.

In seeking out more information from his obituary published just about two weeks after his death, "In 1818, when Habersham County was laid out, that portion of Franklin in which he resided became a part of Habersham, and he remained a citizen of our county to the time of his death."

So I gather many people who had settled in early Franklin County, by 1818 were 'redistricted' into the new Habersham County. Same place, different name. Interesting. I kind of knew that, but it's difficult keeping track of all the changes of county lines and so forth.

Nevertheless, there are a lot of Benjamin Cleaveland/Cleveland in that part of Georgia in 1830. At least two who were about the same age, as were their wives. But the General surely must be the one whose homestead (although originally in Franklin Co.) got redistricted in 1818 to give him a Habersham County address.

So the Benjamin "Cleaveland" residing in the 1830 Habersham County '''census''' was certainly our General of the Georgia militia (and State Representative, too)...According to the info published in the obit.

I'm done searching Franklin County at this point, having found two Benjamins, Robert H., Reuben, and Larkin there; and just got started on Habersham for the 1830 census after finding General Benj. Cleaveland here.

Fortunately, thousands of historical Georgia newspapers are free to read online. Up till now, I hadn't focused much on the Cleveland/Cleaveland family in Georgia. But they're all over the newspapers, so that should be fun. Here's a link to the obituary just quoted above (uncut version of the one on findagrave):

https://gahistoricnewspapers.galileo.usg.edu/lccn/sn82014669/1858-0...

Private User
12/1/2021 at 1:45 AM

With two Benjamin Clevelands of the same age settling in the same county (although possibly at different times), it would be so very strange to also have two John Clevelands of the same age, same county. One dying in 1810 (? we need some proof for that); and the other alive in 1830.

The newspapers could turn out to be quite helpful with this, but there are anywhere up to a thousand to sort through. (I like to start with the earliest ones and work forward chronologically.) And there may be some probate records, too.

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