Norton Family information

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12/20/2021 at 8:23 AM

Found this site for various branches of the Norton family - uses DNA and history..

http://www.nortonfamily.net/

May help with sorting this one John Norton, Jr.

12/20/2021 at 3:52 PM

Jane Norton was wrongly attached to the Maryland Nortons. I am not sure that she belongs with the Reverend Nortons in Massachusetts either. I found one reference to a

Mary Jane Norton Born: 18 Jan 1684/85 Salem, Essex, MA Died: 31 Dec 1725

Under the Norton Family site with George Norton of Massachusetts family. Not sure that is the Jane noted as a daughter of Lucy. This is a profile I inherited. Not sure where it comes from other than a gedcom dump someone left hanging.

12/20/2021 at 7:06 PM

Elizabeth Clarke was not married to Mathias Clark. Or at least that is what is indicated from the Colonial Settlers of Maryland and Virginia site.

His wives were both named Elizabeth, but one was MNU and the other was Elizabeth Mariarte,

I will put a note there.

12/20/2021 at 9:31 PM

Worked on these two using the Colonial Settlers - MD and VA site. It is way cool. I think they are near ready for MP.

John Norton of Baltimore County

1st wife of John Norton

I do not think that Elizabeth Clarke is the wife of John Norton, Jr. Nothing is showing up in any site I can find except the muddled Family Search mess. The two children John Norton, Jr. and William Norton are born before she was the Widow Barnes. She would be 50 or so if some of the other Norton children are hers. I think they need a placeholder mother with John Norton II. She is probably another Elizabeth, but I have not seen her.

12/20/2021 at 10:05 PM

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ford-1055 Lists children neatly ever year.

12/20/2021 at 10:07 PM

I’m going to check archives of Maryland, they’re fabulous.

12/20/2021 at 10:17 PM
12/20/2021 at 10:19 PM

Maryland Marriage Evidences, 1634-1718 By Robert W. Barnes. Page 67.

https://books.google.com/books?id=64bqX44NwwEC&lpg=PA67&ots=Ze7jlyJ...

Clarke, Matthew or Mathias, m by 1706 Eliza., widow of Job Barnes of A.A.

Dang I’m good!

12/20/2021 at 10:35 PM

Well, I will dig him back up and attach him. I swear there is so much conflicting info out there.

12/20/2021 at 10:37 PM

I set up a separate Matthew Clarke because it’s so different.

12/20/2021 at 10:56 PM

Opps, I merged them. Oh well, unmerge if you need to. He has children by one of the Elizabeths and I am not sure which. I suspect that Elizabeth Ford was constantly having babies.

12/20/2021 at 11:05 PM

I did separate William Norton from the Maryland Nortons. The DNA study and info is pretty revealing including that his "son" Isham is not a Norton, but a Hathcock nephew. Descendants still carry the name and the story is out there of the man who took his nephew in, so I think it warrants telling.

I am going back to look at the other one that seemed out of place. It takes a million sources, but I think we need to clean them up and MP. .

12/20/2021 at 11:08 PM

Says Margaret Norton was a widow, gives John Norton in detail, and no Margaret.

what a confusing Elizabeth! But she can’t be born 1668 and have a 1720 child.

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Notes for Margaret Norton:

https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/grooms/475/

NORTON, JOHN (1), was b. c.1678, d. 24 March 1726/7, giving his age as 37 in 1714/5, and stating be had lived in Balto, Co. for about 17 years; was in Balto. Co. by 1694 as a taxable in S. Side Gunpowder; in May 1707 purch. Norton's Lot (being part of a larger tract called Jones' Inheritance) from John and Mary Boring; his will, proved, 3 April 1727, named w. Elizabeth and ch. William, John, Richard, Ann, Elizabeth, and Mary; admin. bond was posted 15 July 1727 by execs. Thomas and Elizabeth Harryman, with George and Samuel Harryman, John Norton having ren. his right to admin.; est. was inv. 14 June 1728 by Benj amin Bowen and Richard Lenox and al. at t 12.6.0; additional inv. was filed in 1728; est. was admin. by Eliza, w. of Thomas Harryman, on 10 April 1729; dec. left a wid. and five ch.: WILLIAM; JOHN; RICHARD: ANN; ELIZABETH; ?no MARY (2:281; 12:341; 51:82, 272; 59 612; 68:18; 125:15; 133:193: 139; 203-3:110)

12/20/2021 at 11:19 PM

OK, Findagrave has Elizabeth Ford as widow of John Norton 1st.

What Geni has as 1st wife of John Norton & Colonial Settlers shows as https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I1079...

I like this a lot better.


Family

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/68979333/john-norton

John Norton was the son of [John William Norton and Jane Lane Norton].???

John married Elizabeth Ford, daughter of Thomas Ford.

CHILDREN:

  1. William Norton
  2. John Norton
  3. Richard Norton
  4. Elizabeth Norton
  5. Mary Norton Brown
  6. Ann Norton
12/20/2021 at 11:24 PM

Can we get a source on the F.A.G? Is she too old to be Norton l’s children’s mother? I don’t want to over complicate.

I’ve come around to agreeing, she can’t be Norton ll’s wife. So far we don’t know his wife.

12/20/2021 at 11:26 PM

Also - the children names for Norton ll are the same as Norton l!

12/20/2021 at 11:36 PM

I honestly do not run into a "Jane" until much later. Will have to see more. Working on some Nortons from Virginia to Richmond County, NC now - bunch who seem to be Quakers who later went to Indiana. I am finding that a lot now.

12/20/2021 at 11:36 PM

Yes, Elizabeth Barnes is not old enough to be John Norton I's wife.

12/20/2021 at 11:37 PM

Norton’s from County Carlow are here:

http://www.nortonfamily.net/ireland-armagah-edward.htm

Edward Norton

Detaching John Norton of Baltimore County as son of Edward & Ann Norton - they didn’t have a son John who went to Maryland.

12/20/2021 at 11:51 PM

When I look at the FAG entry for John Norton, I see a hodge podge of sources trying to confirm who he is. There is NO source for him marrying Elizabeth Ford that I can see. Better question - is there a source for his birth as 1678. I tend to think that may be wrongly attributed.

12/20/2021 at 11:52 PM

I agree. I don't think we know who John Norton of Baltimore County's parents are.

12/20/2021 at 11:54 PM

We do, he was perhaps John. John Norton l was married twice, 1st unknown (Elizabeth Ford???) 2) Elizabeth widow Butler. John Norton ll’s wife was Jane.

I’m uploading Everton’s, not sure if you can see:

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10095-1192677/john-sr-no...

12/21/2021 at 12:35 AM

We need to clean up Margaret Peggy Grooms Too many mothers and she birthed a patriot. Not sure which mother is correct.

12/21/2021 at 12:37 AM

I have a subscription to MH World and Ancestry US. It helps.

12/21/2021 at 1:08 AM

I merged in error and then realized it’s not possible. Explanation below. So I had to wait for a curator to undo merge, and she wouldn’t until she had finished ticking off citations on the document.

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Margaret Peggy Grooms Will stay unclear for now because she was a widow, and I don’t know If she was a widow Norton or not. She’s not named in John Norton’s 1727 Will, and neither is Samuel Norton but there could be other reasons; I wouldn’t disconnect them without more research.

But John Norton’s Will did name a stepson, Patrick Butler and that’s crucial. It means his mother, named Elizabeth, was a widow Butler. And unless Elizabeth Clarke squeezed in a third marriage to a Butler after Matthew (or Mathias) Clarke she cannot have been the same person as either Elizabeth Clarke or Elizabeth Clark

And - why did John Norton not name any Barnes children?

So there’s a little more to check. But so far, Elizabeth Ford was not a Norton, that I can see.

12/21/2021 at 1:20 AM

This is a Maryland genealogist to watch for.

https://msa.maryland.gov/msa/speccol/sc3500/sc3520/013000/013095/ht...

12/21/2021 at 1:22 AM
12/21/2021 at 8:02 AM

Not sure what all happened overnight but interesting reads. We need to plot Bob Barnes tree, MP and add him to the genealogy project. Got to bake today, but will get back to it. This is important work, I think.

Seems like I saw Patrick Butler or a Butler mentioned in one of the wills I posted from the Maryland/VA files.

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