Patrick Hynes, Ireland to Adelaide

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Private User
12/31/2021 at 12:06 PM

Hello,

A user is looking for any information available on the Patrick Hynes who born before 1834 in County Clare, Ireland and died 18 May 1905 in Adelaide. If anyone is able to help, please respond in this thread.

Thank you so much, and Happy New Year!

12/31/2021 at 1:49 PM

Hello Patric,
Although I do not know Patric Odell, Some of my Scanlan family were born, and still living in County Clare. So Maybe our ancestors are connected. My grandfather Scanlan. came to Sydney early 1900’s. I will research further.
Regards Alan.

12/31/2021 at 1:51 PM

Sorry meant Patric Haynes. Alan.

12/31/2021 at 4:33 PM

Vito Australian newspaper search and place name in search in inverted comments. Quite a few entries.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/advanced/category/newspapers?keywor...

12/31/2021 at 4:52 PM

Sorry, he's not one of mine. Happy hunting :)

12/31/2021 at 5:36 PM

Use the Australian search, Trove newspapers, advanced search. Many obituaries between 19 and 21 May 1905. If you email me at john170840@gmail.com I will send you copies. Otherwise search for yourself. Cheer
John

12/31/2021 at 6:02 PM

Gordon Sanson The one in my tree could be a brother or cousin to Patrick. He is George Hynes born 1843 in Clare, Ireland and died 14 Nov 1872 in Australia probably Tumut area. He married Carolyn Jane Wellington . she was born Oct 1851 at St Buryan, Cornwall , England and died 26 May 1899 atTumut, NSW They had two children Philllipa Hynes b 15 Aug 1870,Eldarado, Vic.and Terrence John b 1872 d 1875.

12/31/2021 at 6:49 PM

Patrick Hynes.
I've just done a quick search on Trove with the Name Patrick Hynes and the dates 1834 to 1905 and a number of hits came up.

trove.nla.gov.au
Its free and run by the Australian Government.
Best of luck.
Happy new year to All.
Regards
Peter.

12/31/2021 at 7:07 PM

There are a couple of convicts from Co Clare that may fit . Try searching National Archives. Sub category transportation. Or just general name search for convict to Australia . Lots of info on convicts..
Trove has newspaper articles.

12/31/2021 at 7:19 PM

What other information were you hoping to find?

Private User
12/31/2021 at 7:32 PM

I found his Obituary in the Trove website newspapers mentioned above. In the Adelaide Observer, Sat 20 May 1905, page 20, link below.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/162432559?searchTerm=ade...

12/31/2021 at 7:59 PM

The Late Mr. P. Hynes.
We chronicled briefly in last issue
the death of Mr. Patrick Hynes, of
Blumberg, at his son's sanatorium in
Flindens-street, on 18th inst., after a long
illness.
Mr. Hynes, who was born in County
Galway, Ireland, some 76 years ago,
came to South Australia in the early
fifties, and almost immediately after his
arrival settled in the Blumberg district,
where he had since resided. At the out
set of his South Australian career he en
gaged in contracting in partnership with
Mr. W. Haynes, and during their associ
ation they were very successful. They
constructed many of the main roads, in
cluding some large bridges and other
works in the southern portion of the
State, as well as short sections of rail
way on the main Northern line. Subse
quentily Mr. Hynes built the Sandy Creek
and Springton bridges, as well as the
public schools at Mount Pleasant and
Blumberg. Mr. Hynes was the means of
getting built the Catholic church at
Blumberg, and for many years the
Mount Barker priest used to drive from
that town on a Saturday and stay at
Mr. Hynes' till Monday.
Mr. Hynes was, however, best known
through his connection with mining and
pastoral pursuits. He was very success
ful in sheepfarming, and also made his
mark in wattle cultivation. It was from
seeds from the wattles on his land that
many of the plantations in South Africa
have been raised. The wattle plantations
on the property held by Mr. Hynes at
the time of his death are among the best
in the State. Mr. Hynes over 30 years
ago was impressed with the auriferous
indications of the country surrounding
Blumberg, and he went in very exten
sively for alluvial gold mining, at one
time engaging as many as 50 men in
puddling and sluicing. The well-known
Blumberg Gold Mining Company is es
tablished on his property, while other
companies had also at various times
worked land in the neighbourhood.
Mr. Hynes was a man of very fine phy
sique, and he did not spare himself in
the days of pioneering. He had, how
ever, been ailing for some time, and his
death was long anticipated. More than
a year ago the family knew that Mr.
Hynes—then so hale and hearty-looking
—was doomed; that he had that terrible
disease—cancer, and it was a question of
how many months he would survive. His
son, Dr. Hynes, took him away to New
Zealand, and there, under the influence
of the hot lakes, combined with easy tra
velling in a motor-car through that won
derful and picturesque country, he
seemed to rally; but the improvement
was only temporary.
Mr. Hynes was highly respected by all
who knew him, and that meant by the
whole of the people in the southern dis
trict, for he was continually travelling
about in the interests of his business.
He never attempted to take any public
position, but he was always ready to help
forward any undertaking calculated to
be of benefit to the place in which ho
lived. He owned considerable landed pro
perty in the Blumberg and other dis
tricts.
His funeral took place at Blumberg on
Saturday—too soon for his relatives from
the North to attend; yet it was the lar
gest ever seen out of the city. Friends
for 30 miles round came, and in a pro
cession of nearly a mile long testified
their sympathy by following his remams.
The burial service was conducted fay the
Rev. Father Ryan, the parish priest, as
sisted by the Very Rev. T. O'Neill, of
Gawler, Father Landy, of Mount Barker,
and Father Lee, of Hindmarsh (all for
mer parish priests, who drove to the
funeral during the morning), and also by
Brothers Murphy and Lynch, of the
Christian Bros.' College. The family
vault in the little cemetery of Blumberg
is built after a design seen in the Caiu
po Santos, in Genoa, Italy. The sur
mounting figure, which is of life-size, ic
a chaste piece of marble sculpture, re
presenting an angel pointing heaven
wards. '
Mr. Hynes left a widow, two sons, and
two daughters:—Mr. J. Hynes, of
Gumeracha, who recently stood for Par
liament for that constituency; Dr. T.
A. Hynes, pf Flinders-street, Adelaide;
Mrs. J. P. Fallon, of Hyde Park; and
Miss Hynes, of Blumberg. He has two
relatives in religion in Adelaide—the
Rev. H* Mclnernv, O.P., of North Ade
laide, and Sister Margaret, of the Sisters
of St. Joseph, He was also a relative of
the Bishop of Clonfert, County Galway
(Dr. O'Dea). who was formerly a professor
at Maynooth.

From Trove Southern Cross (Adelaide, SA : 1889 - 1954)
Fri 26 May 1905
Page 10
The Late Mr. P. Hynes.

12/31/2021 at 8:23 PM

I found a record for Patrick (age 23) & Margaret (age 20) Hynes who sailed to Hobart on the ship "Mooltan" arriving 30 Oct 1854.He had been hired as a farm labourer for a period of 6 months & wage of 40 pounds with rations. His wife was hired as house servant also for 6 months with rations, but zero wages.
It looks like his employer was Henry James Chamberlain

Private User
12/31/2021 at 8:51 PM

Sorry cannot help you, not on my tree.

12/31/2021 at 9:56 PM

Blumberg is now known as Birdwood. The German town name was anglicised to "Birdwood" during World War I, along with many others in the region in 1917. The new name honoured Sir William Birdwood, the Australian Imperial Force general who led the ANZACs at Gallipoli. Around the same time, the government closed the German-language school.
I live quite near this area.

1/1/2022 at 12:55 AM

I found this on trove.
A Pioneer Colonist, a write up of Mr. Patrick Hynes in the local paper after he had passed away

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/page/22913964?

1/1/2022 at 2:37 AM

I did some work on a Patrick Hines back in 2015 - there were possible 3 around the same age who I never untangled. I'm particularly interested in the Patrick Hines who married Mary Power and had a daughter Ellen b1878 who is connected somehow to my family. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hines-944

I believe I am related to the John Hines who went to NZ. Thanks John for the fabulous clipping of his obit.

1/1/2022 at 2:37 AM

Funeral notice for Patrick Hynes in "Adelaide Observer" newspaper on 20 May 1905 says
"THE Friends of the late Mr. PATRICK HYNES
are respectfully informed that his REMAINS
will be Removed from his late Residence, Flower
Hill House. BLUMBERG, on SATURDAY, at 3
p.m., for interment in the family vault, Blum-
berg Cemetery."

Blumberg cemetery seems to have been renamed Birdwood cemetery, but unfortunately I haven't found a record for his grave using either of these names, even though it seems like it would be a large family memorial.

1/1/2022 at 3:26 AM

Sorry Patrick. Many of my ancestors originated in Ireland centuries ago. I have not concentrated my research on recent times but will keep a lookout.

Private User
1/1/2022 at 5:53 PM
1/1/2022 at 8:38 PM

check this website as it appears there are records of a Patrick Hynes death that can be accessed
- https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-database-search

Max

1/1/2022 at 10:09 PM

@ Patrick Hynes - Ireland to Adelaide .Blumberg or Birdwood Cemeteries only confuse the burial place. Gerardus link will confirm burial in St. Matthews Roman Catholic Cemetery Birdwood. The cemetery and the Hyne's large memorial is behind the Church albeit some of the headstones are difficult to read.

1/2/2022 at 4:39 AM

As John Robert Coles posted above, Patrick Hynes' obituary in the Express and Telegraph newspaper on 18 May 1905 mentioned that he was born in County Clare, Ireland and that he arrived in Adelaide in the 1850's. There is one Patrick Hynes from Clare who was a convict tried in Clare on 21 June 1849 and transported for 7 years for 'Cowstealing' to Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania) in 1852, arriving on 12 Feb 1853 - check the records at https://stors.tas.gov.au/NI/1404527, particularly his Conduct record which shows no colonial offences and states that he was pardoned on 5th June 1855. This Patrick Hynes may well have then taken a ship to Adelaide to escape the 'stain' of his convict record. Would be worth checking shipping records re his arrival in 1855-1856 in Adelaide.
I can transcribe the convict records later if required, they aren't always easy to understand.

1/2/2022 at 4:51 AM

To add my post above, this Patrick Hynes is listed as a Labr (labourer), he arrived on the convict transport Rodney (3rd trip) and his Indent record is at https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON14-1-44$init=CON14-1-44P194 and the following page.

1/3/2022 at 5:53 PM

re Michael Kevin Heath's posts. It certainly possible for Patrick to have been a convict and arrived overland in Adelaide in time to marry Mary Ann O'Niell on 17 Nov 1857 at Gumeracha especially as his age at marriage, 24, and age on arrival in Tasmania 20 tie up. Patrick's entry in the Biographical Index of South Australians 1836 - 1885 ( BISA) list only 6 children of the marriage and omits Cecilia Mary the eldest daughter born c.1860. With the exception of Michael 1858 - 1858 all the family is buried in St. Matthews RC Cemetery. Daniel's wife Annie 1932, John Henry's wife Frances 1965, Listed separately are Catherine and her husband James FALLON.
Also of interest is the Will and Dr. Timothy Augustine Hynes who left the bulk of his estate of 44.000 pounds to his brother John Henry and sister Catherine Fallon. I have been unable to find the departure of Patrick from Tasmania. I have also been unable to find and search the RC parish baptisms for St. Matthew's for exact birth dates as they are not recorded in the SA BDM records ( the old Irish do not tell the English anything - common practice in those days )

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