Marmaduke Tatham - Issues with different Tatham pedigrees

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https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/19934361/person/87...

It would be unusual for Marmaduke to have married (first) a woman 8 years older (Mary Beckett) = Mary Tatham

I am willing to look for evidence that Maramaduke, the Quaker dissident, had Marmaduke of Wray for a father... but I cannot find a primary source.

I continue to look for his baptism which would have ben at or near Wray if such is true.

as of Feb 2022 :
Marmaduke Tathamis found in 46 public trees on ancestry dot com..
few have primary sourcing for his birth

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/1030/?name=Marmaduke_Ta...

I should say:NONE have primary sourcing for his birth:

Where then did https://www.tathamhistory.org.uk/tatham-family.php get the source?
It is unfortunate that the "THE BOOK" link does not work. for the chart iteslf does not state an source

https://www.tathamhistory.org.uk/resources/tathamfamily/chart-entir...

The search continues:
Hi!
I'm a Quaker Tatham descendant. I was led to this site from: https://www.tathamhistory.org.uk/credits.php
I am looking for access to the "BOOK" mentioned at :
https://www.tathamhistory.org.uk/tatham-family.php
That is the wonderful pedigree for the Qauker Tatham family of Wray-Bentham-Tatham-Settle and beyond... I am attempting to establish the author's sourcing.
any help appreciated.
By the way, the link for "The Book" does not work.

Thanks,
Mike van Beuren

sent to : https://www.tathamfells.me.uk/?page_id=46

"Brigham Young University (BYU) in America - a foundation of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) - has on its website a PDF copy of the book, but not the chart. "
Greetings:

I am looking for you assistance. I want to read "THE BOOK" mentioned

https://www.tathamhistory.org.uk/tatham-family.php
has this text:

"Brigham Young University (BYU) in America - a foundation of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) - has on its website a PDF copy of the book, but not the chart"

Can you point me in the right direction? The link on the page no longer works..

Thanks,

Michael M. van Beuren

sent to: family-history@byu.edu

I contacted Brigham Young University... They do not have this book...

I am wondering if the writer of the book... a teen-ager... simply fell prey to the assumption that any Marmaduke Tatham must have been this Marmaduke Tatham's father...

It is my observation that, especially for this region and era, such an assumption is particularly invalid.

Looking at the parish registers of the region, there are so many Tathams, so many Wildmans...
I should confess thought that I was led to looking for other parents of Marmaduke because I found only only one baptized in his time.

https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000182412900847
Yorkshire, England, Church of England Parish Records, 1538-1873 for Marmaduke Tathame
Thornton-in-Lonsdale, 1576-1812

Name: Marmaduke Tathame
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 5 Apr 1619
Baptism Place: Yorkshire, England
Keyed Parish: Thornton in Lonsdale
Father: Roberte Tathame

Add this to the occurrence of another baptism in the same parish:
https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000182381431930

and add these two circumstances to the fact that Elizabeth Tatham (who marrried a Wildman of Tatham parish) travelled in the same Quaker company that got into so much trouble with the Church of England...

Even though all this, which is reflected in the pedigree I have built here on geni, is not conclusive, I have to say that it is more conclusive than the 19th century pedigree assembled by Richard Ecroyd Tatham

The jury is still out on all of this...

Here's the link for Elizabeth Wildman (Tatham): Elizabeth Wildman, Quaker Martyr

I've been working on this topic for a number of years now... I don't know where to turn at this point..

Here's the link for Elizabeth Wildman (Tatham): Elizabeth Wildman, Quaker Martyr

I've been working on this topic for a number of years now... I don't know where to turn at this point..

It turns out that the entire book is online:

A genealogical chart of the family of Tatham, of Tatham in the county palatine of Lancaster

here is the link on ancestry dot com:
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/29099/images/dvm_G...

it's 20-some pages and is not sourced with parish records and the like. We have to classify it as annecdotal..

going back to the 11:59 time stamp, I add this:
https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000123659230898

This emphasizes that Tatham family connections as Quakers.
I add it here for emphasis...

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