Ann King - Maiden Name / Parents

Debbie Gambrell - agreed & fixed. Good work.

The Collins children need work.

This can’t be right (dates).

Children of WILLIAM COLLINS and ANN KING are:

i. ANN COLLINS, b. Abt. 1643, Isle Of Wright County, Virginia.

ii. JAMES COLLINS, b. 1645; d. 1766, Caroline County, Virginia.

iii. THOMAS COLLINS, b. Abt. 1647, Isle Of Wright County, Virginia; d. Bef. January 03, 1747/48, Caroline County, Virginia.

iv. WILLIAM COLLINS, b. 1649, Isle Of Wright County, Virginia; d. Aft. 1691, King & Queen County, Virginia.

v. JOHN COLLINS, b. Bet. 1640 - 1655, King an Queen County, Virginia; d. January 16, 1692/93, Isle Of Wight County, Virginia.

http://shaybo-therisingtide.blogspot.com/2011/08/descendants-of-joh...

DESCENDANTS OF JOHN COLLINS
Generation No. 4

7. William4 Collins (William3, John2, John1) was born Abt. 1647 in Isle of Wight Co., VA, and died Bef. 1687 in Isle of Wight Co., VA. He married Ann King Abt. 1665 in Isle Of Wight Co., VA. She was born Abt. 1651 in Isle Of Wight Co., VA, and died Abt. 1700 in Isle Of Wight Co., VA.

Notes for William Collins:
1665: William married Ann Wilds widow of Thomas Wilds in Isle of Wight Co.
1687: The administer of William's estate was Alexander Murray, who married William's widow, Ann King Wilds Collins.

Notes for Ann King:
Ann's probate record: Individual=John Collins, Location=Isle Of Wight, Record Type=Probate, Record ID=21213, Description=Son, Prove Date=Feb 10, 1700, Book Page=2-434. Remarks: Ann Murray, Age 49, Nuncupative, proven by Francis Parker and Robert King. Leg: son John Collins, daughter Ann Collins, daughter Martha Murray, daughter Mary Murray, last two named daughters to live with their uncle Robert King. Source: Probate Record extracted from microfilmed copies of the original Will Book.

Children of William Collins and Ann King are:

13 i. John5 Collins, born Abt. 1667.
14 ii. Ann Collins, born Abt. 1671.

From http://shaybo-therisingtide.blogspot.com/2011/08/descendants-of-joh...

Nope, it doesn’t work. It’s an earlier generation.

See http://shaybo-therisingtide.blogspot.com/2011/08/descendants-of-joh...

Because geni has limited name fields, this is how I enter multiple surnames, it’s the “legal” way.

Surname at birth: maiden name (only)
Last name: surname at death (only)

Kids are out of luck. They can find their surname under AKA, so enter it there. Geni search picks it up; but geni search will not find hyphenates or other extra legal displays.

Ann Murre died in 1700 at age 49, which means she was born 1651.

It’s not just Geni that’s a mess - Collins of Virginia have been a genealogical nightmare for generations, and there’s no real proof of much anywhere.

Wikitree is trying to clean up also. I’m not quite on board with all their tree decisions so far, but their notes and sources are certainly good.

See for example

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Caufield-24

And the “comments” from Chet Snow, who has an impressive background (retired historian) and whom I’ve seen before on good Wikitree profiles.

He wrote:

As part of the "Virginia Collins family restoration" I have removed Caufield-24 as wife of William Seward and mother of any of his children. William Seward's wife is represented by Elizabeth Caufield-44 . More will be added to clarify these relationships in the near future so please be patient while the group involved can research relationships and make correct family connections.

posted Jul 06, 2021 by Chet Snow

That said, http://shaybo-therisingtide.blogspot.com/2011/08/descendants-of-joh... is probably wrong about Elizabeth Caufield and Margaret Weeks.

I just don’t think he had a child at 93.

John Collins of Surry County

Two studies, probably both have flaws.

• Prewitt, Richard A. The Collins Book: Joseph Collins and Lucy Marchbanks, their descendants. < PDF >
• Descendants of John Collins I < PDF > “The first two generations are very questionable and are in dispute by many. They are placed here only a guide to do additional research, to prove or disprove.”

I didn’t see a good reference for this Thomas but I’ll look again.