Sir John or Henry Carlton, of Virginia - Conflicting Parents

Started by Debbie Gambrell on Thursday, February 24, 2022
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Even though the notes in his About section state:

Parents George Carlton * + 1581 – 1624

Ann Hunter 1595 – 1627

this John has two sets of parents connected.

And is his name John, Henry or John Henry? Was John Henry just a solution to the uncertainty of whether he was John or Henry?

Thanks for any clarification.

Let's begin with the highly suspicious title. No such person in Shaw's "Knights", so he probably wasn't knighted in England - and no American-born colonist was *ever* knighted. (The majority of colonists were yeomanry or lower, with a sprinkling of untitled gentry.)

Middle names were Not A Thing yet, so he was probably either "John" or "Henry", but not both.

His "other" parents are anonymous, possibly because someone didn't have any information on them.

Wikitree says he died in "Northampton, Virginia", but the Miles Files has no trace of him. This might be an error for "Hampton, Virginia", still extant as an independent city on the *west* side of the Chesapeake Bay at its mouth. Note that his son Christopher Carlton is associated with King & Queen County, VA, which was split off from New Kent County in 1691 (which was split off from York County in 1654, the year before Christopher's cited birth date). All of the above are "mainside" (west side of the Chesapeake).

(Well, almost no American-born colonists, and the one or two exceptions - there aren't many - went back to England and made their lives and fortunes there.)

I wish people wouldn't attach a new set of parents to folks who already have parents attached, leave no reason or documentation for having added the new parents and then not bother to sort it all out so the correct parents are attached and the Geni pathways aren't left sketchy like this. If they aren't going to take the time to do all that, they shouldn't attach another set of parents. Venting. We run into this too often on Geni and it's so frustrating to the rest of us trying to trace lines. sigh.

That vented, thanks for your input, Maven.

Edward Carleton, of Rowley Was thought to have been a son of George Carleton, of Cottingham - there’s royalty hunting going on in these pedigrees, perhaps.

https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/new-england-historical-...

The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1847-. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2018.)

https://www.americanancestors.org/DB202/i/11623/5/23514585

Debbie Gambrell

Here’s the pedigree proving “John or Henry” Carleton was not of the Yorkshire family, but the Massachusetts immigrant was.

https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000182945280027

Thanks, Erica. He's in a line of a DNA match of mine that I was tracing. I guess he's a brick wall, but that's better than incorrect pathways.

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