Edward Bagley - Who was his mother?

Erica Howton C

3/1/2022 at 1:16 PM

From https://mixedgenes.eu/bagley-of-dudley/

t has been suggested that the Bagley children received more than Elizabeth’s other children in her will – something that has prompted many to suggest John’s wife was her daughter – because these other children were otherwise taken care of. This is quite possibly true. On the other hand, I now have copies of the original wills of some of these children as well as that of John. My preliminary conclusion is that in addition to the money and land the children received from Elizabeth [Tomlinson] and Edward [Lord Sutton], John himself had nearly as much, if not more, to bequeath than some of the other “children”. Again, inconclusive at best.

Loyal “servant”, son-in-law or brother-in-law? We may never know.

Erica Howton C

3/1/2022 at 1:27 PM

Tagging profiles of interest.

Ann (Or Agnes) (Sutton) Bagley, [uncertain]
Gender: Female
Birth: 1584
Death: between 1616 and 1630 (31-46)
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Edward Sutton, 5th Baron Dudley and Elizabeth Tomlinson
Wife of John Bagley
Mother of Edward Bagley; Thomas Bagley; Robert Bagley and Dudley Bagley

Elizabeth Tomlinson & Edward Sutton, 5th Baron Dudley

Agnes Bagley & John Bagley, Gentleman Deerkeeper

Edward Bagley of Sedgeley & Olive Bagley

Ann Brinton & William Brinton, Sr. immigrants to America.

Erica Howton C

3/1/2022 at 2:02 PM

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bagley-126

Ann has a disproved royal and Magna Carta ancestry which was shown to be incorrect in an article in The American Genealogist. [1]

Erica Howton C

3/1/2022 at 2:04 PM

Disproved Royal Ancestry:

It was once believed that John Bagley had married Ann Tomlinson, an illegitimate daughter of Edward Sutton, 5th Baron Dudley. This was based on a lease that John Bagley, Robert Dudley and George Guest had received from Lord Dudley. Robert Dudley was a known illegitimate son Lord Dudley, and George Guest was the husband of an illegitimate daughter. Elizabeth Tomlinson, the known mistress of Lord Dudley by whom he had 11 children, left money in her will to Edward and Dudley Bagley.

The assumption then was that Edward Bagley had also married an illegitimate daughter of Lord Dudley, thus explaining both the lease and the bequest by Elizabeth Tomlinson. However, Charles Hanson showed by a more careful reading of the will that Edward Bagley had not married a daughter of Elizabeth Tomlinson, but had in fact married her sister. Therefore, the descent through Edward Sutton, Lord Dudley is broken.
It is sometimes still argued that the bequests of Elizabeth Tomlinson were to children and not her nephews, Edward and Dudley Bagley. At this point it is extremely unlikely and the reconstruction provided by Hansen in his American Genealogist article is most probable. [7]

Sources

7. The American Genealogist, vol. 71 (1996): 36-48. Ancestry of William and Ann (Bagley) Brinton, by Charles M. Hansen.

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