https://www.geni.com/threads/6000000184543200897
I refer to the discussion going on with the administrators on this profile. A curator is needed, please!!
Best regards!
https://www.geni.com/threads/6000000184543200897
I refer to the discussion going on with the administrators on this profile. A curator is needed, please!!
Best regards!
This is a very important messages from a user in Denmark, where Geni rules are being circumvented !!
Rigmor Kjær Nørgaard
I dag kl. 2:05 PM
From my account settings:
Blokerede brugere Du kan forhindre bestemte brugere fra at kontakte dig eller udføre handlinger på profiler, som du administrerer. Hvis du blokerer en bruger fjerner du dem også fra din familie grupper. In English: You can prevent certain users from contacting you and operating on profiles that you manage. If you block a user, you also remove him/her from your family group.
“This does NOT work at all. Certain blocked users have merged and operated on nearly all my family profiles and a lot of profiles I created!”
Some users and their curator friends obviously are not familiar with Geni rules:
https://www.geni.com/company/terms_of_use (updated Jan. 2022) These rules are some of the general Geni rules:
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Security. Geni is intended to be a private family network.
“Rule of privacy has been violated several times in nearly all my family profiles. All of them have been “updated” and merged without my consent by a blocked user.
Geni does not appear to be a family network, as long as certain users are allowed to collect other people’s family and relatives.
Relationship is not even considered, when management is given to people with no connection to the profiles.
I am NOT allowed to cooperate with my sister or my husband on our shared family and relatives!”
Content/Activity Prohibited, if someone: 5. promotes information that you know is false or misleading or promotes illegal activities or conduct that is abusive, threatening, obscene, defamatory or libelous; 6. promotes an illegal or unauthorized copy of another person's copyrighted work, such as providing pirated computer programs or links to them.
Copyright Policy. You may not post, modify, distribute, or reproduce in any way any copyrighted material, trademarks, or other proprietary information belonging to others without obtaining the prior written consent of the owner of such proprietary rights. It is the policy of Geni to terminate Membership privileges of any Member who repeatedly infringes the copyright rights of others upon receipt of prompt notification to Geni by the copyright owner or the copyright owner's legal agent.
“A certain user has actually more than once uploaded false, misleading information on profiles I created. The same user has used pirated computer programmes to prove profiles and unauthorized copies from my own website and from others’ as well! Sometimes modified to reveal that the texts are copied!”
After posting your Content to the Geni Services, you continue to retain all ownership rights in such Content, and you continue to have the right to use your Content in any way you choose. If, however, you invite other Members to share your family tree on the Service, or agree to merge your family tree with another Member's family tree on the Service.
“My ownership rights to content in About Me is violated, when Geni Team before merging remove the texts and after merging replace them, so Geni Team appears to be the creator.
My ownership rights to profiles I created are also violated, when my profiles are merged with NN or other fake, empty profiles, resulting in fake creator and often 1st managers, who did not even know the names of the profiles. How can a user, who did not even know the name, let alone the place names or other important info, manage a profile?”
Member Disputes. You are solely responsible for your interactions with other Geni.com Members. Geni reserves the right, but has no obligation, to monitor disputes between you and other Members.
“The “disputes” are due to a blocked user’s violation of Geni rules, which is ignored, and nothing is done about it!
Blocking the harassing user does NOT work, reporting her misconduct does NOT work, but displaying how she abused other people’s work on my profiles of family and ancestors is seen as is if SHE is the victim of harassment!
Result: the victim of the blocked user’s meaningless harassment loses edit permissions! A decision, made by the harassing user’s curator friends, who has helped her to capture my work by locking profiles, “MPing” them, so only SHE can work on them – which she cannot. Result: MPed, locked profiles are never proved!”
18. interfering with, disrupting, or creating an undue burden on the Geni Services or the networks or services connected to the Geni Services;
"No response from misconduct@geni.com if I ask what my husband and I did wrong, since we are not allowed to edit anything - only if I have made copies/duplicates of my own ancestors’ profiles, mostly all managed by inactive users, who never finished or proved them, there is a response: I am NOT allowed to do what the blocked user has done to most of my work for years!
Don’t incorrect merges and adding incorrect family to my profiles create an undue burden on Geni services??"
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"My husband and his family were deleted and disconnected from the world tree on May 7th, 2021, and in spite of several letters of complaint to misconduct@geni.com, nothing has been investigated, and my complaints have been ignored. Ruining the world tree is a reason for banning users, but WHY is this vandalism ignored?"
Jeg sidder tilbage med en grim følelse af at Rigmor ikke må være med i denne diskussion, måske, fordi der er noget der skal skjules eller nogen beskyttes !
Hvorfor må Rigmor ikke være med i en diskussion her? Jeg kan simpelthen ikke forstå at genis regler ikke gælder for alle!
Det jeg, og andre, kan læse ud af Rigmors klager, er vel noget der kan diskuteres rent sagligt !!!
Jeg sætter Rigmors svar til Anette Guldager Boye ind her, da AGB har svaret her!
Link til hele diskussionen :https://www.geni.com/threads/6000000184543200897
Rigmor Kjær Nørgaard
I dag kl. 8:32 PM
Ja, og grunden til min og min mands restriktioner er, at vi har tilladt os at gøre nøjagtigt det samme, som kuratoren har ladet sin veninde gøre i mange år: lave kopier af profiler og flettet med de bestående, der overhovedet ikke var dokumenteret. I dette tilfælde ikke for at kapre andres aner, men for at genvinde vores profiler, som jeg var blevet fjernet fra ved samme lejlighed, som min mand og hans familie blev slettet fra træet af Geni Team! Jeg kan kun gisne om, hvem der stod for Geni Team!
Den pågældende kurator, der giver en blokeret bruger adgang til at operere på profiler fra min familie plus profiler, jeg har indtastet, har travlt med at retfærdiggøre sine handlinger med forblommede hentydninger, men Genis regler ser hun åbenbart fuldstændig bort fra. Har hun overhovedet læst, hvad der står?
Skulle dette forestille at være chikane?
"Den først indtastede profil er flettet med en Jens af tvivlsom oprindelse. Ingen Jens var tilføjet som Niels Jensens far, da Jens Ibsen blev indtastet. Hvor kom Jens fra? Se Ændringer:
#Jens Ibsen blev tilføjet som Niels Jensen's far af Rigmor Kjær Nørgaard dec. 7, 2018 at 8:12 PM
#Jens blev flettet med Jens Ibsen af Thor Thorsen Jan. 2, 2019 at 9:38 PM · se Som man kan se af de nedenstående kommentarer, er "indtasteren" slet ikke sikker på, hvad profilen står for!"
Ydermere kan kuratoren og hendes veninde åbenbart heller ikke tyde den originale tekst, jeg har lagt link til, eftersom hun lader fejlbehængte kopier fra nettet uden links til ophavsmand/kvinde stå alene. Hellere chikanere end have et korrekt træ, er hendes motto tilsyneladende.
Ydermere er det slet ikke vigtigt for den pågældende kurator, at profilen er dokumenteret. Min dokumentation ligger stadigvæk på bunden af About Me.
Den, der indtastede en falsk, tom profil ved navn Jens uden info står stadig som indtaster af denne profil, plus af Jacob Ibsens "forældre" ved navn Ib og NN, plus Karen Christensdatter, hvis "indtaster" også er falsk.
Det er sørgeligt, at en kurator ikke støtter Genis generelle regler.
Jeg er fuldstændig enig med Joan
Jeg kan heller ikke forstå, at Rigmor , er blevet blokeret .
Det er Rigmor, der har lavet det store arbejde, med at oversætte de gamle dokumenter.
Da hun er en rutineret dame, til at oversætte, samt og lagt dokumentation frem, så alle selv kan gå ind og tyde.
Hvis man så er uenig i oversættelsen, så kan man selv skrive det , man er kommet frem til.
og give det videre til Rigmor, Eller lægge det frem her og så tage debat , så alle har mulighed for at spille med åbne kort
Jens Ibsen, i Østrup has an English About Tab and a Danish About Tab.
It would be helpful to others if the English About Tab had info in English.
I do not know what language it is there, but it is not English.
If it is also not Danish, then I believe another language choice can be added - or is not knowing how the reason for this?
I transfer Rigmor's text as she for completely incomprehensible reasons does not even have the opportunity to write in this debate where her knowledge is absolutely essential for understanding.
The text written by Rigmor Kjær Nørgaard one of Geni's most talented genealogists. Please use Rigmor's impressive knowledge in this area, her knowledge will make Geni's family tree more credible and correct, because her genealogy research is based on extensive knowledge, thorough search in the archives, solid documentation and use of the best sources available in the archives in Denmark. Rigmor's research is important for Geni's future, important for building a proper family tree.
The text is from the debate that takes place directly from the profile of Jens Ibsen, i Østrup
Jens Ibsen, i Østrup
Author Rigmor Kjær Nørgaard, quote:
"Anette Guldager Boye Nielsen: “And again complaints about others in the "about me" section is not relevant to the profile and do not belong there. Regardless of who you get to put it back on there.”
Both profiles of Jens Ibsen and his wife were messed up by incorrect merges with 2 unidentified empty profiles, Jens and NN (no place names, no children, no dates). When I added Jens Ibsen and Karen Christensdatter as parents of Niels Jensen, he had NO parents. All my relations paths were a mess because of these and a lot of other merges made the same way with empty profiles coming from other parts of the tree. Some of these empty profiles still had the regret button, which I pressed, and quickly NN, Wife, Anders, etc. jumped back to where they had been cut off. Not all of those empty profiles had the regret buttons in the revision, but as I knew, they had suddenly appeared as Niels Jensen’s parents, I was 100 % sure they had been moved there to catch my full profiles of my own 8th great grandparents.
This is why I decided to make new, fresh profiles, which made the relations paths correct. But what could I do to avoid new incorrect merges? I provided the messy profiles with warnings that they should NOT be merged again, because they were a mess, due to incorrect merges. To prove it, I simply copied the lines from their revisions showing how they had been merged. So, you see, it was not a complaint, but a warning that they should not be merged. As usual (I have experienced this 100s of times) the warning was not respected, and a manager, not related to the profiles, merged again! My warnings about no new merges were deleted by “unknown” (as usual)
Furthermore 2 managers had added incorrectly transcribed texts to the About Me of my 8th great grandfather, whose profile I have proved as precisely as possible by the help of original cases from the district*s county register and references to church registers.
My text proving and explaining my ancestor’s relations is now invisible at the bottom of his About Me thanks to incorrectly transcribed texts with no links to any source (violating copyright rules), placed by 2 other managers in his About Me, who also made their conclusion from the incorrect transcriptions: “He must die after 1646.
Anette Guldager Boye Nielsen, since you seem to have authorized yourself to be THE judge, I would very much like you to read this original text, especially its 8th line, and tell, if you spell the name JENS IBSEN like this: J-A-C-O-B. As a help to you I found the link to the text: Aalborghus Ekstraskattemandtaller Tingsvidne nr. 221 (opslag 551) https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=20167158#283347...
The link and part of the correctly transcribed document I added in his About Me Sep 24th 2020, but it was also deleted by “Unknown” after the new merge.
Furthermore and not less important, I would like you to provide me with the correct address to your “head office”, so I can remind them of giving me the reasons for 1. Restricted edit permissions several times with no reason given 2. Deleting my husband and his family from the tree and after he joined Geni also lost his edit permissions, before he had finished entering his family and connecting him to the tree again!"
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