John G Hoover - There is some confusion over parents but they are apparently the same and need clarification and sources

John G HOOVER
Adds: child(ren)
Birth: Feb 4 1822
Overton, Comté De Shelby, Tennessee, États-Unis
Marriage: Marriage to: Sarah Ann BROOKS
1843
Death: July 13 1906
Febntress, Tenessee
Father: James Harrison HOOVER
Mother: Mary Catherine COOPER
Wife: Sarah Ann BROOKS
Children: Phoebe Eliza HOOVER
George Washingon HOOVER
Perry Green Duncan HOOVER
Alexander Elick HOOVER
John G HOOVER
William R HOOVER
Mary Ann HOOVER
James Madison HOOVER
Henry HOOVER
Nancy Elizabeth HOOVER
Richard HOOVER
Source: View source record on Filae.com

https://www.filae.com/v4/genealogie/subscription.mvc/MyHRedirect?pe... (I cannot open it)
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John G Hoover Sr
Born 4 Feb 1822 in Overton, Tennessee, United Statesmap
ANCESTORS ancestors
Son of Henry James Harrison Hoover I and Mary Catherine (Cooper) Hoover
Brother of Henry Hoover, Isaac Hoover, Rebecca Hoover and Louisa Hoover
Husband of Sarah Sally (Brooks) Hoover — married 1843 in TNmap
Husband of Sarah Elizabeth (Owens) Hoover — married 27 Mar 1877 in Wayne County, Kentucky, USAmap
DESCENDANTS descendants
Father of Nancy Ellen Hoover, Henry Hoover, James Madison Hoover, Mary Ann (Hoover) Voils, William R Hoover, John G Hoover Jr, Alexander Elick Hoover, Perry Green Hoover, George Washington Hoover, Ellen Jane Hoover, Phoebe Eliza Jane Hoover, Rebecca Ann Hoover, John Albert Hoover, Richard Dick Hoover, Martha E Hoover, Catherine Elizabeth (Hoover) Doss, Charles Hoover and James Casteeler Doc Hoover
Died 13 Jul 1906 in Sharps Creek, Kentucky, United States

Wikitree
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hoover-1178

Consistency Check:Birth date of John G Hoover and his sister Nancy Esther Hoover are within 8 months.More than 22 year age difference between Louisa Gints and her husband John G Hoover.Martha E. Hoover born after the death of her mother Sarah Ann Hoover (Brooks).Rebecca Ann Hoover born after the death of her mother Sarah Ann Hoover (Brooks).Katy Elizabeth Doss (Hoover) born after the death of her mother Sarah Ann Hoover (Brooks).Charley Hoover born after the death of their mother Sarah Ann Hoover (Brooks).

Erica Howton I think they have become emeshed

The boundaries between the two families are blurred

Sorry -- enmeshed. Someone has become conflated

James Harrison Hoover

Henry James Harrison Hoover, I

Mary Catherine Hoover

Mary Catherine Hoover

Brooks, Hoover come into my Hicks line with DNA.

Location, location...

Birth Location Morgan County, Tennessee, United States

Death Location Fentress County, Tennessee, United States

Erica Howton thank you! I see them now.

Erica Howton please see.

I am now back to this.
Should I merge and disconnect BOTH sets of parents?

I have been disentangling the John Hoovr fro John G Hoover with the help of unmerges from 2019 and 2021 in addition to the 2022 you did for me.

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000004154002103?idx=0&re...

I know he had two wives. Maybe three.
Am holding at just the two Sarah's and will revisit.

Sticky keys.
Please disregard the typos and [sic]

Logging off soon and will revisit

Mary L or J Owens

is the key.
Step daughter of Owens.
I think I will figure it out or at least get two families separated.
In the meantime, this one is in the census and will help to sort--- it will keep.

To all the managers, thank you for your patience.
My DNA matches are coming from Hicks down through/to Brooks, Voiles, Hoover.
Thank you

I think she is a duplicate of Mary L or J Owens but shows as daughter of different Sarah and John.
Making the decision to move her since we have a census record and she is not seen with husband nor children on either profile.
Then we can build out HER family group as they are found.

Continuing to disentangle these Sarahs and Johns.

Is Charlotte Tackett the same person as Sarah Hoover ?

This is where the confusion appears. The FAG memorial may be wrong but it seems to match the Wikitree bio for this group.

Erica Howton looks like three wives named Sarah if the census birth years are correct.
This is looking all the more like the same John the more I work on them

Sarah 1843
Sarah 1838
Sarah 1827

Sarah Hoover

Charlotte Tackett

Sarah Ann "Sally" Hoover (divorced is what Wikitree says

FS has one wife, Wikitree has two but the census seems to reflect three

Merged her back using census. The Wikitree and OTHER public trees have the Sarah's confused or conflated.
By the census, she is the daughter of Owens and step daughter of Hoover.

Census:
1850 https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10126-11938412-/sally-ho...
1860 https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10127-23817010-/sarah-ho...
1870 https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10128-71808001-/sarah-ho... (divorce occurs after)
1880 https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10129-58439859-/sarah-a-...
1900 https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10131-54253186-/sarah-ho...

I think the last wife was living in the home in the 1870 census and is a relative of the second Sarah.

2 wives.
All done.

No widow. NPE.

John and family in 1850 to 1900 Census:
1850 https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10126-11938412-/sally-ho...
1860 https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10127-23817010-/sarah-ho...
1870 https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10128-71808001-/sarah-ho... (divorce occurs after)
1880 https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10129-58439859-/sarah-a-... Sarah Owens Hoover

(1880 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/10922977:6742 Sarah Brooks Hoover listed as widowed but is actually divorced)

1900 https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10131-54253186-/sarah-ho...

He had his first child with second wife Sarah Hoover (Owens) about the same time as his last child with first wife Sarah "Sally" Hoover (Brooks)

BOTH wives are seen in his household in the 1870 census with second wife enumerated as Domestic Servant and her daughter is living with her in their household.
Head (implied) John Hoover 48 Wife (implied) Sarah Hoover 44 Son (implied) John Hoover 14 Son (implied) Eliah Hoover 12 Son (implied) Green Hoover 10 Son (implied) Washington Hoover 8 Daughter (implied) Elen Jane Hoover 2 Sarah Owen 27 Mary Owen 6

Apparently both Sarahs become pregnant around the same time and a divorce occurs so we find two households in the 1880 census.

Riley misses being seen in census because of the loss of the 1890 census and his findagrave and grave stone say 1878 but his social security and other records have him as born 1883 which makes more sense. His death record names his parents John Hoover and Sarah Brooks.

These two family groups are complete and apparently the Doss was in the wrong tree and not seen as a wife of this John.
Also, I do not know if the father of Mary Owens is known but both Sarah's had a child Mary but Mary Owens is either an NPE or Sarah Owens married an Owens before John Hoover or else Mary Owens is NOT her daughter. I hope to find more about her at some time but for now my goal is achieved in sorting these two women and attaching their children to them correctly.
Thank you.