Nahoga Nancy Elizabeth Moniac (Moniac Knight) - Father / Parents

Started by Debbie Gambrell on Tuesday, June 21, 2022
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I'm curious whether there is any documentation for Nancy's parentage, especially since most of what shows in her profile is just uploads from personal trees and no real info.

One Ancestry trees shows her parents as:

Father
William Dixon "Jacob" Moniac (1740–1787)
Mother
Sehoy McGilvray, Weatherford (1750–1811)

but the majority of trees I see her in on Ancestry just don't list her parents.

I personally had seen many years back that her father was William Dixon Moniac but that her mother was Mary 'Polly' Colbert, not Sehoy McGilvray. However, William Dixon Moniac was married to both Mary Colbert and Sehoy McPherson who had multiple husbands. I know sometimes it is challenging to be certain which wife was the mother of all the children in some of the families.

But in any case, I had not seen anywhere that Nancy's father was David Moniac, so I'm curious about more information on that.

I'm not a descendant They're an inlaw line married into my Creek line via the Cornells connections, but I still would like to make sure I have the connections correct.

Thanks in advance for any clarification / documentation.

I just discovered some trees on Ancesty that have her father as Andrew Jackson Knight and her mother as Mary 'Polly' Colbert, complete with a photo of Nancy.

They show her married to John 'Jack' / White Could Ward and her maiden name as Knight, not Moniac.

Nancy Elizabeth ( Nahoga No-hem) Knight (Creek Indian)

BIRTH21 Jun 1760 Eufaula, Barbour Chatttahoochee River, Creek Nation, AL
DEATHDec 1851 Bon Secour, Baldwin, Alabama, USA

sources (4)records (3)photos (9)stories (6)

Family Info

Father
Andrew Jackson Knight (Chickasaw/Muskogee) (1721–1780)

Mother
Mary Polly Colbert (1740–1827)

Spouse
John "Trader Jack" Ward III (White Cloud) (1744–1813)

So, that's yet more confusion to try to sort through.

So I can see why many just don't list her parents. I 've begun to wonder if some trees haven't mixed up info from more than one woman / family, trying to make things fit.

I just attached two documents from Ancestry that seem to prove her father was Andrew Jackson Knight.

Debbie Gambrell Good Morning, I am the grand-daughter of Betty Jean Ward. She is the daughter of Forest Thomas Ward son of John A. Ward, son of James Madison Ward son of James Benjamin Ward so of John Jack 'White Cloud' Ward. When I was young my granny (Betty) would keep me during the summers. I can remember the stories she would tell me (seems she only shared them with me for some reason) of Creek Indian princess and the princesses dad. 'She was the most beautiful maiden in all the land' she would say. I started our tree from Granny information as well as what I've found researching. I too have Nancy E Knights parents as Andrew Dick Moniac Knight and Mary 'Polly' Colbert. Can it be proven? Probably not, I do have a few other conflicts with the parentage as Andrew is supposedly her step father. The name/word 'Moniac' was in a song my granny used to sing. I didn't understand or appreciate this as a child of course. I remember it though. I am going to see my granny this week and hopefully she can shed some light on this subject or maybe has some documentation handy. She is 89 now so we'll see how it goes.

Samantha Kaye Newsome thank you for sharing that info. By all means, get whatever info you can from your grandmother while she is with you! So many of us missed those opportunities when we had them. But it definitely sounds like your family traditions seem to verify the info we believe to be the correct connections.

My dad used to tell me we had a Cherokee princess in our family. We do have Cherokee on his side and Creek on my mom's side, but there are no princesses in those tribes. That whole 'princess' thing seems to have been something that became popular to claim. That said, if your 89 year old grandmother believes she's descended from a princess, let her cherish that.

Please do share more with us after your visit with your grandmother, if you get new information.

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