John Stevens, of Guilford

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7/28/2022 at 3:06 PM

It's curious how the John's three sons have birthplace entries presenting a geographical hodgepodge: Kenilworth (William), Burnley (John), London (Thomas). - (URL below) Has anyone delved into this?

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/London,+United+Kingdom/Kenilworth,+...

Diana Raquel Sainz y Wilson PRO

7/28/2022 at 3:35 PM

I had to look this one up out of total curiosity:

Apparently, no one cares about Mary
1. Mary Collins Stevens MP
Birth: circa 1624 - England (United Kingdom)
Died: 1700 (67-84) Guilford, New Haven, Connecticut

2. William Stevens, of Guilford (Guilford Conn. where he died
Birth: 1627 - Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England (United Kingdom)
Death: February 26, 1703 (75-76) - Guilford, New Haven, Connecticut

3. Thomas Stevens, of Killingworth
Birth: December 05, 1630 - London Parish, London, Middlesex, England
Death: November 18, 1685 (54) - Killingworth, Middlesex County, Connecticut, Colonial America

4. John Stevens, of New Haven
Birth: 1632 - Burnley, Lancashire, England
Death: after 1674 - New Haven, New Haven, Connecticut

Here is what I found on the father:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stephens-1188

??????QUESTION: His occupation, other than being a Militia Sargent in Andover, MA
What is a husbandman? Is that a "stay-at-home dad?" or a husbandman as opposed to a husbandwoman? someone that completes your "Honey-do-list? Or an actual profession? I must google it.

He landed in Mass. Granted back then Massachusetts stretched up into Maine or Maine was Massachusetts, but all his children are in Connecticut in different areas. I did not look at the areas on a map that they went to. Granted, my children were all born in different places, and I in another country, but it is interesting.

Name John * Steevens
Birth Nov 6 1600 - Caversham, Oxfordshire Co., England
Birth July 7, 1605 - Caversham, Oxfordshire, England
Alternate Birth 1603
Baptism July 7, 1605 - Caversham, Oxfordshire, England
Christening July 7, 1607 - Caversham, Oxfordshire, England

Marriage to: Mary Anne Moulson - 1624 - Kenilworth, Warwick Co., England
Marriage to: Mary Pellyne Stephens — 24 Sep 1627 in Plymouth St Andrew, Devon, England

Arrival 1638 - Newbury, Massachusetts
Naturalization Immigrated - Feb 2 1638 - Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts Bay, British Colonial America

****Occupation Militia Sargent in Andover, MA, Husbandman (

Death Sep 1 1670 - Guilford, New Haven, Colony of Connecticut, British Colonial America
Burial Apr 1662 - Old North Parish Burying Ground, Andover, Essex, MA, USA

Erica Howton C

7/28/2022 at 7:26 PM

So that looks like a really messed up tree. We need real sources. When did they emigrate?

Erica Howton C

7/28/2022 at 7:30 PM

www.geni.com/media/proxy?media_id=6000000186188947193&size=large

(Always look at what was added before to geni profiles.

I’d say it’s unknown where in England they originated, and the profiles should be updated to reflect that.

Unless there’s a TAG article differently?

Erica Howton C

7/28/2022 at 7:31 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husbandman

A husbandman in England in the Middle Ages and the early modern period was a free tenant farmer, or a small landowner. The social status of a husbandman was below that of a yeoman. The meaning of "husband" in this term is "master of house" rather than "married man". According to anthropologist Charles Partridge,[1] in England "Husbandman is a term denoting not rank but occupation... Knights, esquires, gentlemen and yeomen were also husbandmen if occupied in agriculture, but were never styled husbandmen because of their right to be styled knights, etc. The agriculturist who had no right to be styled Knight or esquire or gentleman, and who, not being a forty-shilling freeholder was not a yeoman, was described as husbandman."[2]

It has also been used to mean a practitioner of animal husbandry, or in perhaps more modern language, a rancher.

Erica Howton C

7/28/2022 at 8:24 PM

John Stevens, of New Haven Detached as son of John Stevens, of Guilford His children’s birth place have been updated to “England” -

John Stevens, Jr.

Mary Collins

Thomas Stevens, of Killingworth

William Stevens, of Guilford

Diana Raquel Sainz y Wilson PRO

7/29/2022 at 3:29 AM

Erica Howton thank you for the husbandman answer. lol.. now that you actually wrote that because I did not google it, I have heard of that before, it's just been a while, and knowing myself, I probably made some sarcastic joke about it then,

I didn't look into the individuals any further than what I added, You beat me. But it was entertaining.

Thank you for fixing it.
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Erica Howton C

7/29/2022 at 5:07 AM

Stevens families are rough. I had put a lot of work into getting them sorted, and was chagrined I missed the birth place silliness.

Diana Raquel Sainz y Wilson PRO

7/29/2022 at 7:16 AM

Erica Howton I will be happy to add them to my LONG list of challenges.

Erica Howton C

7/29/2022 at 9:07 AM

I think it’s often a matter of cleaning profile data. Most of the 1600s guys do have at least minimal sourcing, but data conflicts or improbabilities are rarely addressed.

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