Adah Faulk ("Choctaw") - Adah and Eliza

Started by Debbie Gambrell on Monday, September 5, 2022
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I'm wondering if the genders aren't mixed up on this couple. I'm a Faulk descendant and I see Ancestry trees with Adah as the husband and Eliza as the wife.

I'm trying to sort something out on my Faulk lines regarding the Native American connection. I have a DNA matching cousin I share Native American DNA with and our common ancestors are Richard Faulk and Sarah Hinnant, my 5th great-grandparents. The cousin I match Native American DNA with is down the line of their son Jesse Faulk. I'm from the line of Jesse's sister Keziah who married Dempsey Coleman.

The ONLY Native American connection I've found so far is if Adah Faulk is a male, as I'm seeing elsewhere, and there is Choctaw (or whatever group they may have been) somehow on the Faulk lines . That would fit Adan the Choctaw into the Faulk line and is the only clue I have to why I have matching Native American DNA from a descendant of Richard Faulk. The problem is, I can't find any source showing who Adah Faulk's parents were.

Any additional information that might help with this mystery would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I found additional info. Turns out both Adah and Eliza were Faulks, probably related. I still haven't found Eliza's parents but I found a Faulk family tree that has Adah as the wife and Eliza as the husband, as here on Geni.

They do have the parents of Adah: Thomas Faulk and Alsey Strickland. I'm a Stirckland descendant also and my line is Creek. So far, I don't know how Adah's Strickland line connects to mine but I did find how I'm related to her on the Faulk lines -- she shows as my 1st cousin 7x removed.

So at this point, still no info on the parents for Eliza and I haven't found any other references to any Choctaw in the lines and can't help but wonder if the Native American is actually coming from the Strickland lines. BUT I also share Jernigan ancestry with Eliza and that has Old Cheraw in the lines.

So, Eliza definitely has Native ancestry even if it's not Choctaw.

@ Debbie Gambrell
I am also a descendant of Thomas Faulk through daughter Adelaide "ADA" Faulk. I founnd a record of south Carolina where Children were listed: Arnold and Kenzie,. separate people on some trees, are the same person, a male. Elza/ Eliza/ Elias, depending on the document,was an older brother of Adelaide. some trees have them married. NOT SO. Elza married in North Carolina before the family migrated to Alabama.. My family story has Elza married to an indigenous native and first child born there. My ancestor, Ada, is mother of Alexader R. Faulk as the result of an assault. Ada was deaf mute and never married, never had another child. Sure is a messed up scramble of names on Ancestry and other sites. WiKI tree even has Elza and Ada as twins .I am looking for proof of what my grandparents said. would be happy to hear from you, jerry ann

Jerry Ann Graham thanks so much for sharing the info you know from family history. Let me make sure I understand. You're saying that the Adah Faulk on here is actually a daughter of Thomas Faulk and Elise Strickland? And she didn't have a husband named Eliza / Elza? Do I have that correct?

If so, I don't think any of the sites have those connections correct. I doubt her brother's name was Eliza, which is historically a female name, and was probably Elias or Elza, which is the name your family ascribes to him.

I don't have any other information on them, unforuntately, as they're a cousin line to me and I only recently came across them as distant cousins and the Choctaw info posted jumped out at me because I do know that DNA indicates NA ancestry on the Faulk line I share with you farther back but I don't know where it came from. So we still have some unanswered questions.

@ Debbie Gambrell Yess and No.
Let me explain: ADAH was a female, but not the daughter,of Thomas Faulk. she married a son of Thomas.

The daughter "ADA"of Thomas Faulk and Elsie (Stricklanf) was their last child. Her name was supposedly Adelaide, but I have found documents with Adelline, Ada, Aday, Lady, and Adey. It depends on the person who gathered the info and the pronunciation of whoever gave the info! My grand told me we were dutch & german, and they pronounce the vowels and digraphs differently than we "English" speakers. My grandfather Alexander named my mother's sister for Adelaide "Ada".
The Eliza/ Elza/ Elia (depending on document was an older brother. He was born 10 years before Ada.his sister.

The " Adah " who IS the wife of Eliza; was an indigenous native. who (story tells) had no last name. She married "ADA's" brother in North Carolina before the family migrated through Georgia to Pike County Alabama, then to Geneva County. My grandmother , Winnie Mae Faulk Odom, said she belonged to the "Blacktoe " tribe of Choctaw or Cherokeess who lived in border areas of North and South Carolina. I cannot prove.
Both maternal and paternal grandparents shared "history" with me when I was a teen. I have only recently started digging up ancestors after a heart attack in 2020. I was flabbergasted at the factual errors which have appeared. I am guessing the researchers saw the name Eliza and made it/assumed a female. There are family members who have photos of ADAH with son Talton. If you cannot find in my TREE, I'll send in email, if you like.
I have seen TREES that have Eliza and ""Ada" married to each other, but even if they had not checked PARENTS, the dates and ages should have sent up a red flag. When Eliza and ADAH married, my Ada was only 10 years old.Eliza and ADAH had their first child the next year when my Ada was only 11. I have even seen a Tree which said Eliza and Adah were twins ! I have tried so hard to kindly correct, but ........
My Ada was a deaf mute who was assaulted. The resulting pregancy was my g grandfather, and her only child. she could not identify attacker , never married, and lived with her mother until Elsie's death, then she lived with Alexander until her death. I te Alabama censuses the families of Eliza, and Elsie (spelled Alsey and other ways) were next door to each other. . Hope I did not add confusion. contact me any time. Eager to have documents. jerry ann
also, please excuse typos

Jerry Ann, thank you so very much for your time and patience in trying to help me get it straight in my head and in my tree. In trying to add them into my tree, I've seen the mishmash in other trees on Ancestry and I hope that by having it correct in my tree maybe others will begin to make corrections in their own when they compare what they have vs. what's in my tree. I think the main source of confusion is that Eliza had a sister named Ada and a wife named Adah and people haven't known the history that you've shared here to help them sort the two women out correctly.

I know how I'm related to Eliza on the Faulk lines and I'm sure I must also be related to his mother Elise Strickland on the Strickland lines. I'm a direct descendant of Simeon Solomon Strickland and Jennie Hale, my 4th great-grandparents. My Faulk connection is on my dad's side and my Stricklands are on my mom's side. So it's likely we're double cousins, if I ever am able to find my connection to Elise.

Thanks again so much for your help with these connections.

lol...Jerry Ann, when I went to my Ancestry tree to add some notes, Hints from your tree showed up! So now I can figure out the Strickland connection! Yay!

double Y A Y !!!! maybe we can un muddle some of the mess out there. Did I tell you I even saw a tree which said Ada and Eliza were twins ? hahateehehe.

Yep, you did mention the twin thing. And people copy errors from other trees into theirs, often without questioning anything. So, yeah, combating that becomes a mission! lol

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