Andrew Johnson Floyd - Time to look at Andrew Floyd again.

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I have noted on several occasions that I can't find proof of Andrew Johnson Floyd and Ann Floyd as a couple and parents of the Floyd Boys of Horry County, SC. While nothing exists on Andrew, thee is some info on Ann:

From the SC Archives:

Floyd, Ann, Plat For 231 Acres On Cedar Creek Of Drowning Creek And Cartwheal Swamp, George Town District, Surveyed By Josiah Lewis On November 6, 1795. Date: 3/7/1798
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People in this record: Floyd, Ann
Also: Lewis, Josiah
Places in this record: Cartwheel Branch; Cedar Creek; Drowning Creek; Georgetown District
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Date: 3/7/1798
Series: State Plat Books (Charleston Series) (S213190)
Document Type: Plat
Images: Available at SCDAH building or by order. See How to search menu.
Identifiers:
Archives ID: Series: S213190 Volume: 0035 Page: 00179 Item: 002

Floyd, Lewis, Plat For 400 Acres On Cartwheel Bay Of Little Pee Dee River, Horry District, Surveyed By Josiah Lewis. Date: 1/17/1815
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People in this record: Floyd, Ann
Also: Floyd, Lewis; Foxworth, Mary; Lewis, Josiah; Lewis, Richard; Stevens, Robert
Places in this record:
Cartwheel Branch; Horry District; Little Pee Dee River
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Date: 1/17/1815
Series: State Plat Books (Charleston Series) (S213190)
Document Type: Plat
Images: Available at SCDAH building or by order. See How to search menu.
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Archives ID: Series: S213190 Volume: 0038 Page: 00111 Item: 001

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Ann may be Anna as there was a practice of naming grandchildren for grandmothers. Known daughter of Frederick Hardee Floyd was Anna Jane Mincey and another "Anna Jane Floyd" of approximate age Anna Jane Kirton has shown up proven by death certificates of her son. Anna Jane Kirton is most likely the daughter of Moses Floyd or Austin Floyd, as both had "unknown daughters." of that approximate age. My bet is Moses due to the proximity of the Floyd family to the Kirton family, but that is all speculation.

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So what do we know about the Floyd Boys:

Austin Floyd (1755-c.1845)

Moses Floyd (c. 1755 - c.1808)

James Rowland Floyd I (c. 1755-1828) (Never used a middle name, but his son used the "Roland" middle name.)

Francis Floyd (1756-1804)

Samuel Floyd (1767-1820)

Frederick Hardee Floyd (c.1769-before 1820) (Never used a middle name, but it helps keep them straight so it is here.)

Thomas Floyd (c.1770 - ?)

There were probably at least 2 "Floyd Girls". It has been difficult tieing them together, but Sarah "Prudence" (Floyd) Reaves and an unknown Floyd AKA Catherine are likely sisters to the brothers.

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Now here is where local information and knowledge takes place - a review of the 1790 census the following names are listed as heads of households:

Samuel Floyd Jr. 1-0-2

James Floyd 1-2-3

Francis Floyd 1-4-3

Samuel Floyd 2-0-2

Thomas Floyd 1-2-4

Moses Floyd 2-2-3

The numbering corresponds to
Column 1 - Free white males over 16 years of age including heads of families
Column 2 - Free white males under 16 years of age
Column 3 - Free white femailes including heads of families

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Of the Floyd men listed in the census of 1790, "Samuel Floyd" would be too young to have had a Samuel Jr. who was head of household. Frederick does not appear until the 1800 census so may be the other white male living in the household of Samuel Sr. As there were two women in that household, one may be the wife of Samuel Sr and the other the wife of Frederick or a sister. Frederick's children did not seem to have a birthdate before c. 1790.

Census is listed here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YBZ-CF4 under Prince George Parish.

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It seems clear that Samuel Floyd, Sr. was living in 1790 and that given the dates and names of the others, that they would be his children. I just do not believe that there is such a person as Andrew Johnson Floyd who married Ann Rowland. Samuel may have married Ann Rowland for she did exist and live on Drowning Creek, which as we all know growing up is the Pee Dee River. They all lived where the Pee Dee met the Lumber River.

If anybody has anything but some trees on other platforms that say Andrew exists without any sources, please come forth.

The 1800 census is more revealing.

"United States Census, 1800," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH5R-HMS : accessed 2 October 2022), Sam Floyd Jr, Kingston, Georgetown District, South Carolina, United States; citing p. 388, NARA microfilm publication M32, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 49; FHL microfilm 181,424.

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Francis Floyd

Samuel Floyd Jr.

Isaiah Buffking

Frederick Floyd

Samuel Grainger

Samuel Floyd Sr.

This census seems to be in relation to location of households within a "neighborhood." This would support SC Archive research noting that land plat surveys have these men with contiguous properties.

Samuel Grainger is this profile Samuel Grainger Speculariton has always been that his wife Catherine Grainger was the illusive Caherine Floyd - a sister to the Floyd Boys. Info on their profiles can provide more substance.

Robyn Sherma - braving the hurricane aftermath in FL if you have a moment

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Faustine Darsey on partial hiatus

Most of you have worked on the profiles of some ot the Floyd family of this region and/or are connected to them by blood or marriage. Please reveiw my notes above.

I have gone back to the census data. I recommend that Andrew Johnson Floyd be removed as spouse of Ann Rowland and father to these ment and that "Capt. Samuel Floyd" yes, there is that, which needs more exploration from the SC Archives references to come be added as spouse and father.

This just needs to happen. I can add all the supporting documentation to the profile once it is made and done. Another thing supporting this is the research of the biographer of Carlisle Floyd who though not a genealogist, was pretty thorough.

remove away - honestly i have not been on in such a great while with trip, i am not even sure if my membership is active at the movement. make any corrections you need - headed out now to see cs lewis play with friend - just responded as it was YOU!!

Robyn Sherma, yep, you are still active, but let's talk soon. Glad you faired the storm well.

Susanne Floyd I have no knowledge regarding your question. I would wait for Erica's feedback. Thanks for your efforts.

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Sure thing Faustine Darsey on partial hiatus. I have reason to believe that Samuel Floyd is an undocumented patriot from references to him as "Capt. Samuel Floyd and in connection with Capt. Edward Connor, who is.a documented patriot. I will probably have to go to the SC Archives in person to find the info and also on James Floyd who some of his line claim was a patriot.

Done.

Capt. Samuel Floyd Profile started.

I will get to work. Thanks so much. "Someday the census records will match up with the names." Yep, they did. :-)

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