Any Malamphy/Mullampy/etc members with family trees that stretch back before 1800?

Unfortunately the name does not appear in the tree that I'm working on.

Good luck with your research.

@Dermot McCrum

Interesting. Not a name I've ever seen before, but I did a search in Ancestry and MyHeritge for relatives with both of those variations and came up with a surprising long list of distant matches. For what it's worth, all of my family are from the North; mostly Tyrone and Donegal, but also the NW reaches of Fermanagh.
I'm on GEDmatch if it's of any use to you.

J Morris

I don't have any Malamphy or Melanthy names in my trees either unfortunately.
I'm on GEDmatch, MyHeritage and ancestry if you wish to look for yourself sometime.

-Alichia

Hello Colin, I am pretty sure that your ancestor came from Tipperary. I say that because I did searches for both these names on this website:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

You can find Civil Records from 1864 up to 1930 onwards, despending upon whether it's a birth, death or marriage.
Anyway, entering Malamphy is the Last Name field gets you only 13 records for this name in the whole of the period I meantioned above. Eleven of these in a place called Borrisokane, Co. Tipperary, and one of these in a place called Nenagh, also in Tipperary. There is also one for Dublin South.

If you do a similar search for Mullampy only ten records for the whole of this period appear. There are six for Borrisokane, Tipperary, one for Nenagh, Tipperary, one for a place called Thurles, also in Co. Tipperary. The last one is in a place called Scarriff in Co. Clare, which is to the West of Tipperary and connected to it.

I am very sure that you are related to every one of these records.
Hope this was helpful
All the best, John Burns, born Sligo 1951

Hello Colin, There are also Molamphy in the 1901 and 1911 Census , again in Co Tipperary. I think many of these are releated to the Malamphy and Mulamphy as people were careless with spelling. Good luck with the research.
Kind regards
Mary

Try Molumphy

Hi during the time of unrest during the time of the famine a lot of Irish people change their last name cause of the British retaliation like my last name is Devoy and were the most wanted so a lot with the same name change it now there are very few now I think maybe look up rebellion members and work from there

I dont have any of those names in my family tree. Would the surname be Murphy?

Thank you everyone for responding! I'm sorry it's taken so long to get back to this, as I never got notified via email that there was activity here.

I'm planning on taking a Y DNA test sometime this year that will hopefully confirm or deny connection the Molamphy/Mullamphy/Malanaphy/Malanfay/Mullampy/Malamphy/Etc group.

There is a Clan Malamphy group on FamilyTreeDNA that I can test against, and I will report back here.

My first possible Malamphy ancestor, James doesn't show up in the United States until after 1794. I'm looking for tree matches that would bridge that gap in immigration. I still have hope someone might have more info or a possible connection from Ireland to the US.

The y-dna test might prove disappointing and expensive. Contrary to popular opinion, y-dna does change and a paternity case relies more on the autosomal test than just a Y test.

It is the ancient markers of the haplogroup that stay consistent, giving us the ancient trees back to ‘Adam and Eve’. However, there are many reasons why the Y might not match with surnames. Irish inheritance didn’t always go to the eldest son and could go to another person completely, then there is the tradition of adopting children from relatives when they were unable to support the children and many other reasons. Again other people might have joined a clan and adopted the surname.

FT-DNA seems to have a group for Malumphy and as it is free to join, you might be able to do some research there first?

Then there is a cheaper option too, to test with companies that give a free haplogroup analysis (23andMe is one) and then to check that with various sites for its relevance?

On the records side, paper records will be none existent from before 1800 unless your ancestors were rich or criminals for instance. The rich might be recorded in histories and wills or recorded ancestries? The vast majority of Irish people were not interested in records. People were known by who they were connected to and where they lived. The priest would be local and know who could and could not marry etc. It is stilll true today that folk here are known by their association with others! :) Often people who emigrated had records made for the first time when they arrived in the new country adding to the standard difficulties of tracing Irish families in the 1800s.

I have come across the malumphy name in Ireland and the contribution above is valuable to you. I also note there is a branch in the Midlands of the UK, around Birmingham that should be discoverable in UK redcords.

Good Luck.