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Elizabeth (MNU) Guthrie - Not a Dunlap

Started by Ann Guthrie on Saturday, December 10, 2022
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This misidentification is all over the internet, and is one of my greatest frustrations because there is clear documentation about Elizabeth Dunlap's family origin and death at sea before her family ever reaches America. You can read details about this other couple and their children here:
https://guthrie-genealogy.com/2019/11/01/james-guthrie-elizabeth-du...

See also: American Guthrie and Allied Families by Rev. Laurence R Guthrie, Appendix p721, ref: 428)

The Elizabeth Guthrie married to James Guthrie of Ireland, Maryland, and North Carolina has never been association with any documented maiden name. She is named in only a few records, the last of which is on 6 Nov 1810 when she and two sons-in-law sold property they had inherited upon the death of her husband James Guthrie. Afterward, the Madden and McMinamy families moved from NC to Humphreys and Rutherford, TN. Since we don't have a solid DOD for Elizabeth, it is entirely possible that she travelled with them and died in TN. Her DOD is most appropriately reported as "after 6 Nov 1810" and the location as (possibly) Orange County, NC, or Either Orange, NC or TN.

I locked fields & relationships on Elizabeth Guthrie

Erica,

Thanks for locking the field on Elizabeth Guthrie. However, by doing so I appears that someone slipped in and added an unrelated daughter before you did so. I sent the group of managers a message this morning, but realized afterward that they probably won't be able to detach her from James Guthrie and Elizabeth (MNU) Guthrie either.

The 'daughter' that should be removed is listed as Mary 'Patsy' Lowe (Guthrie), the wife of Thomas Lowe. "Mary" should actually be "Martha". This is a family from Lincoln County, NC with no interaction between their Guthrie line and the family above in Orange County. Nor is the YDNA a match. This error is a frequent finding in trees where the new trend is to merge anybody with a similar name.

Both daughters of James and Elizabeth Guthrie named Mary and Martha have known husbands and children documented elsewhere. Please detach 'Mary 'Patsy' Lowe' from the above parents. Her maiden name remains unknown.

In addition to over 30 years of research on all things Guthrie, I am the admin for the Guthrie and McMenamy DNA Projects, maintain a database of our 1000+ project member lineages from across the globe, and a website on Guthrie Genealogy. If there is an expert on Guthrie matters worldwide I'm it. Just wanted to share that am not grabbing info out of thin air.

Ann

Martha ‘Patsy’ Lowe detached as daughter of James Guthrie (MD/NC) & Elizabeth Guthrie



Ann Guthrie - your help on geni is very much appreciated.



Private User - you’ve done some good work detangling Guthries, so you might be interested in this discussion.

I think Ann seems to have a really good handle on this!

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