Center for Jewish History Offering Free AncestryDNA Testing

Started by Private User on Wednesday, January 11, 2023
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Please see this page for qualifications and further details: https://www.cjh.org/research/dna

Funny thing is Ziff is my 6th cousin, on that Shapiro line from Ariogala that I really want to test (but he is not a direct patrilineal descendant of the rabbinical person of interest in this case).

I hasten to add that this is not the best test for y research, but the raw data can be used to obtain a wide angle haplogroup. Since this is free testing, I would encourage any person who qualifies to take advantage. Even persons who are not direct patrilineal descendants may find themselves in some other rabbinical lineage, unexpectedly.

I think they're focused on survivors of the Shoah, or their children. Not applicable in my family's case. I will pass along to others though.

I think the guidelines will apply even to persons who fled from Europe to America, and their children. Here is the Yad Vashem definition of Shoah survivor: "At Yad Vashem, we define Shoah survivors as Jews who lived for any amount of time under Nazi domination, direct or indirect, and survived." https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-and-who-defines-being-h...

My family left Europe in the 1800s, so...

What's the obstacle in the way of testing a cousin in the Jack Godfrey Shapiro line? (I don't mean as part of the free CJH program.) How about pursuing an orientation panel (https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=56898) with the help of one of the cousins?

I've asked a few times. I'll try again.

Just a remark - Jack Godfrey Shapiro line, as appears in at least one of his ancestors, is from the Cohen- Shapiro family. Borukh Shapiro
Where did this note came from?

Regarding the line, I wonder if this Shapiro line (Baltic area) are close to my mother's paternal grandmother Szpiro, which we have oral knowladge that they belobg to the Szpiro-Kahana line. They are from Ilza, Poland.

Private User How did you determine that Borukh Shapiro is a Cohen?

We have a family tradition that they were Cohanim.

They're not related necessarily to other Shapiros. The family assumed the name in the early 19th century. There was some sort of ironic inside joke involved.

We've retained history going pretty far back from that side of my family. My great-grandmother lived to 101, she knew her late husband's grandmother etc. And the whole family was a bit obsessed with genealogy.

Dr. Doron Burshtain, Ph.D. my Shapiro line were founding members of the Ariogala community in the mid-1700s. I do not believe there's any connection to Ilza.

Private User Thanks for the insights. I've been interested in Ariogala for a while ever since I learned that the surnames Rogoler and Rogol can be interpreted as toponyms for Ariogala. I have some Rogols I suspect may be ancestors (the line is in the R1b-L408 subtree). If you happen to encounter this R1b sub-tree in your family please remember this conversation.

Private User Thank you, I will keep it in mind.

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