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Cleaning up around Quatie (Brown) Ross

Started by Erica Howton on Friday, February 24, 2023
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If anyone has insight, please add! There are a bunch of children who don’t belong I’ll just detach, but I wanted to make a note about this obscure person. There’s a lively debate about her on genealogy.com in 2004.


Disputed relationships

The claim:

Quatie ‘Elizabeth’ Ross was the daughter of Thomas Brown and Unkn; she married: (1) Robert Richardson Hensley (b. 3 Oct 1790) who was killed in the War of 1812 and had at least one child: [[unknown Pogue unknown Pogue] Susan "Fatima Ross" Henley] who married William Shorey Coody and Zachariah Lewis Pogue

Evidence is needed for “Fatima’s” name and origins.

Quatie "Elizabeth" Brown was born in the Cherokee Nation about 1792. Her parents are unknown. Some think she was the daughter of Thomas Brown a mixed-blood Cherokee, others that her father was a white trader and her mother Cherokee but there is no record to support either suggestion. Her first husband was named Henley; they married about 1809. They were the parents of a daughter Susan, who lived with her mother and John Ross until she married William Shorey Coody who was John Ross's nephew. (see Eastern Cherokee application #1300) According to her half-brother Silas, Susan died in California in 1852; she has a memorial stone at the Holland Cemetery in Tahlequah OK. There is no record I can find that says anything about "Fatima" a name I have never seen connected to any Cherokee person. I haven't seen anything that suggests Susan married a second time, she is on the 1851 "Old Settler" roll as "Susan Coody." Susan and William's daughter Henrietta died in 1849 and Susan's only living heir in 1896 was William's daughter Ella (see her Eastern Cherokee app 8704)

Quatie married John Ross in 1813. They were the parents of six children James, Allen, Jane, Silas, George, and one who died at birth. Quatie died near Little Rock, AR on the Trail of Tears and is buried there.

John Ross' scholarly biography and David Hampton both say Quatie's antecedents are unknown as is Henley's first name.

Great, that’s the detail I hadn’t seen. Thank you.

Kathryn Forbes - had you seen this entry?

https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/quatie-ross-12527/

This article says her parents were Thomas Brown & Elizabeth Martin.

No citation for parents, but a signed author:

Cody Lynn Berry
University of Arkansas at Little Rock

News to me. I never heard of “Elizabeth Martin” many think Thomas Brown is father but no evidence.

There are no sources for Quarie’s parents, all speculation.

There are no sources for Quarie’s parents, all speculation.

https://arktimes.com/news/the-observer/2006/05/11/the-observer-152

The headstone backed up a news item published in 1839 in the Arkansas Gazette reporting that Quatie was laid to rest at the city’s first burial grounds, roughly where the federal courthouse is now. Some histories left her in a shallow grave on the riverfront. On the tantalizingly cracked headstone only the word “Yrs.” appears; Quatie’s age was missing. So we got out the passel of printouts we’d brought with us to Mount Holly and looked more carefully at the dates.

We could find no birth date for Elizabeth Brown Henley — that was her name, though she was, according to some sources, full-blooded Cherokee. But several sources agreed that she and John Ross were married in 1813. Ross was 23. Quatie had been married previously and had a child; she had five more with Ross, who was 1/8 Indian and one of the richest men in north Georgia, where they had a 200-acre farm and other businesses.

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