(No Name) - Her family has become no name

Started by Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 on Saturday, March 18, 2023
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Please help.
Only a manager can revert and perhaps the person changing them can explain why this happened?

Curators can revert, and so have done. Activity shows on the profile revisions tab. Wiping data in a shared tree with multiple managers is a violation of therms and conditions for use of geni. Often it seems someone doesn’t know another way to correct data. Again, curators can help with that.

ATTENTION Curators, please assist
https://www.geni.com/discussions/257430

Tagging Joan Colleen Walter

Thank you, Erica Howton

someone care to fill me in?

Joan Colleen Walter If you view the revisions tab of Magdalene Maud and her parents, you will see:

Magdalene (Stevens) Hand's profile was updated by Joan Colleen Walter. birth, first name, last name and 1 other
Jun 24, 2020 at 1:48 PM · view

https://www.geni.com/revisions/history/profile-1377065?a=compare&from_id=prev&tab=facts&to_id=78448773180

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6/24/2020 at 13:48
Joan Colleen Walter

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3/20/2019 at 16:18
Lloyd Alfred Doss, Jr.

Title
First Name Magdalene Magdalene
Middle Name
Last Name Hand Hand
Birth Surname Stevens Stevens
Suffix
Display Name
Nicknames
Birth Location Talbot County, Maryland, United States Talbot County, Maryland, United States
Birth Date 1692 1692

Apparently you had erased the names and dates of these profiles you do not manage. Why?

Magdelene Stevens did not marry a Hand. Her married name was Maud. She should not be in in the Hand family tree. This has been an on going discussion for many years. Some one mis-trancribed the name long ago. If you look at the original document it clearly states she married Daniel Maud Not Hand

Please upload or cite the document you refer to on the profiles, because they have citations and nothing to refute them.

please tell me how to upload the two documents I have downloaded concerning this issue.

I uploaded 2 documents concerning this yesterday

They needed to be tagged to the profiles, which I have done.

On 17 JUN 1710 at the Third Haven Quaker Meeting, Talbot, Maryland, Magdalene Stevens married Daniel Maud, mariner from London. His name is also transcribed as Daniel Hand, and that’s how he’s described in some genealogies.

Who were the children?

Joan Colleen Walter - it looks like a transcription issue. The records certainly look like “Daniel Maud” to me, but apparently had been interpreted (?) as “Daniel Hand.”

I collaborate with the profile manager, so with the records attached as evidence, have updated the name formerly seen as Daniel Hand in Geni to Daniel Maud. However, the children need further sorting.

Another option would be to detach profiles from each other if we believe it’s different people being mixed up. Only PRO members and curators can do this. In this case, the name clarification seems the better way to go.

I have fought for years for this issue to be fixed. I removed her from my main tree long ago. I honestly dont think i added her to this one. At least if I did it was so long ago that I forgot. If someone wishes to remove her go right ahead

Magdalen Stevens is not in a Hand tree. Actually, she never was on Geni, as the profile formerly called Daniel Hand was not connected to any other Hand family.

Then what was the point of this whole discussion?

Fixing the geni tree, which has been “erased.”

By changing the name of all the people on the profiles you removed info, they became No Name. It did not change the lineage. It created work for others to turn them back to the names they were.
Erasing a name doesn't fix an error.
Starting a Discussion on a profile allows you to state your concern and for others to help fix any problem if they are able to argue for or against what is in the profile.
We merge and disconnect all the time on Geni. It is a public collaborative genealogy site and only works as well as the people using it.

I havent done anything on that tree in a very long time.

Depending where you live, the time may be different, because we are each shown the time in our own time zone, but when I look in the Revisions Tab I see
"Magdalene (Stevens) Hand's profile was updated by Joan Walter. birth, first name, last name, and birth surname « less
Jun 24, 2020 at 2:48 PM · view"
And when I click "view" I see all those fields had their values removed then.
And that was the last change to that profile until Erica started fixing it this March 18th.

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